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Kissing Companions - Indeed.
2006-11-30, 1:28 AM #1
KISSING COMPANIONS

Very short, and only linked to avoid formatting in the forum. A snippet of a yet-to-be-realized play. Inspired by a real event. Names are random, and are very much open to suggestions, although a fantasy-ish name is intended.
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2006-11-30, 3:10 AM #2
I'm not sure the language is working out for you so well. There are points where you either mix contemporary with archaic or seem to be forcing it too much. Revisions will probably iron that out, though.

It's awfully preachy.
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2006-11-30, 10:22 AM #3
I intended the language to be a hodgepodge. I like the style that came from it.
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2006-12-01, 10:08 AM #4
It's not long at all :gbk:
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2006-12-02, 6:01 PM #5
The language is rough. I know you said you like the hodgepodgeness of it, but you're attempting a kinda archaic dialect that you don't really know, and it comes out sounding a bit more like a failed attempt than as a new style.

The story itself is fine, though.
2006-12-02, 6:36 PM #6
Aarrrgh your play is formatted appallingly. Use standard stage play format!

I dunno if you're going to write any more plays, but if you plan on doing so, you should consider buying Final Draft, because it does all the formatting properly for you.
一个大西瓜
2006-12-03, 6:16 AM #7
Pommy, that format you linked to is a horror to read. Having the character names centered makes everything run together incomprehensibly. I'd hate to have to read that script. Also, isn't the scene number usually represented with a lower case roman numeral?
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2006-12-03, 10:58 AM #8
I didn't format it for an actual play yet. This is just how I format my plays before I put them into readable format IE: Not the one you linked. That's a HORRIBLE format.

And I've done playwriting before. This is just a new little fun way of writing that I'm playing with. My normal stage plays have done pretty well around here. Granted, they're for small children.
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2006-12-03, 12:04 PM #9
For you guys who are saying it's a "HORRIBLE" format -- well, live with it, because that's the STANDARD format and it's pretty much expected by ANY respectable production company that your play will be formatted like that.

It's not like it's just a "suggested" format by some random company. That's THE format. EVERYONE who knows what they're doing uses that format. EVERY piece of playwrighting software (e.g. Final Draft, which is also THE software used), handbook, guide, etc. will follow that format. It's the format that's been developed over quite a few hundred of years.

But you say -- oh, what about all these books and such of plays that don't use that format? The books are formatted like that because they're BOOKS. Are books published in the manuscript format that authors submit to publishers? No. But you sure as hell wouldn't format a manuscript in landscape double-column and submit it to a publisher.

If you really want more reasons, go back to the site and read their little thing.

[note: I just realized that I came off a little absolute. Let me clarify: you don't have to follow the EXACT format that THAT link provides -- the example pages on THAT page are not the universal standard for everywhere. BUT, you DO have to follow the "rules" that are followed by that format -- the most BASIC of which in playwrighting is the APPROXIMATE CENTERING OF CHARACTER NAMES and DIALOG RUNNING ACROSS THE PAGE. ]


[edit two: Here's MORE information.

http://www.playwriting101.com/chapter05

Quote:
What Does a Play Look Like?
Not Like This!

You may have seen plays that look something like this:

ALEX. I want somewhere with a lawn.
MERC. What? That patch of dead grass on 133rd not good enough? (Merc eyes
the lock on the box of women's clothing.) Wish I had a lawn. I would've been
a different person. (Beat.) Make sure you get a lawn. (Beat.) You been through
your Mom's clothing?
ALEX. (Lying) No. You?

Notice that character name, dialogue and intermittent (stage directions) extend from left margin to right margin, except for a small indent of the first line. Text is single-spaced.

This is Published Play Format, typically what the publisher gives you in an Acting Edition, and its goal is to save space. It's hard to read, and not submission format. Submitting a script in this format is a bad idea - it would surely give a theater's overworked literary staff a headache.


Quote:
What Should My Play Look Like?

Playwrights and the people who read their work have never adopted an ironclad, industry-wide format, maybe because theater, by its nature, tends toward the revolutionary and can't bear to become establishment. Maybe we're just not that organized.

But even if there's not one, absolutely must-follow format, there are definitely common-sense formatting principles of "readability" that must be respected. If a work is going to be read by potentially many people you must place the words on the page in the most familiar manner. This will assure the reader that an experienced writer is behind the work and that same writer will not burden the reader with unusual markings, fonts, or margins. Here is a general rendering of Manuscript Format.

Note: Script formatting software has made formatting all scripts considerably easier and less time-intensive in recent years, and many of these same programs have playwriting templates, with settings that you can modify with relative ease. They're definitely worth investing in and more on those later.


http://www.playwriting101.com/chapter06

Quote:
The Rules: Manuscript format is the only format to use when you are submitting your script to theater companies, contests, publishers, agents and other theater opportunities. The guiding principle here is easy reading.


On dialogue:
http://www.playwriting101.com/chapter11
http://www.playwriting101.com/chapter12
一个大西瓜
2006-12-03, 12:32 PM #10
And another source:

http://www.pubinfo.vcu.edu/artweb/playwriting/format.html

Quote:
It may seem like the maximum in un-creativity, but using standard professional format is important . . .

The Format provides a way for you to estimate the running time of your play. It's easy for performers to use in readings or rehearsals. And it's literally the first impression Literary Managers and their readers will have of your script.

Using the format sends a signal that you know what you're doing. Since you do, or will, don't keep it a secret.


http://www.pubinfo.vcu.edu/artweb/playwriting/formatpage.html

[edit: And one more:
http://www.nohoartsdistrict.com/literary_arts/how_to_stagepaly.htm
Quote:
If you read a lot of plays, the format you see is not necessarily the correct one. You usually see a lot of plays that are printed and published similar to the following:

TED. Where have you been?

ANNE. (Enters.) I went out for a walk. I needed to clear my head.

TED. (Confused.) I’ve never known you to do that.

ANNE. Well you’ve never known me when I’ve had a lot on my mind.

The characters' names are aligned to the left (with perhaps a space or two indentation), and the dialogue begins afterward on the same line, with emotional and action cues inserted within. All lines are single-spaced. The fonts used are small. More lines can be printed on each page, minimizing publishing costs.

What publishers, producers, directors, and editors prefer is a significantly different format when they read a play for consideration. They are interested in the content. The words on the page need to be clear and readable. You should use a 12-point Courier font. Character names are centered on the page in all caps. The speech starts the next line down. Emotional and action cues are on separate lines, indented, and italicized. There is a double space before the next character's name.
一个大西瓜
2006-12-03, 7:43 PM #11
Just because it's the standard doesn't mean it's good. I certainly would reprint my script in a more readable format were I acting in a play that had a script formatted like that. It doesn't make any sense at all. At least, to me.
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2006-12-03, 10:43 PM #12
Ironically, it's the standard because at least to production companies and anyone who has to read the play, think about it, and deal with it, it's easier to read.
一个大西瓜
2006-12-04, 12:54 AM #13
The play's interesting enough, but the faux high prose is indeed rather off-putting. I could envision successfully weaving archaic diction with the vernacular, but in its current form it just comes off as long-winded and pretentious.

I think the correct summary of the style would be Victorian, arguably the most verbose writing style ever, mixed with modern English and a bit of old English thrown in. Try going for Elizabethan.

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