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    I sure didn’t think when I clicked that link I’d find that the ‘much more important thing that we should be talking about’ would involve video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor View Post
    I sure didn’t think when I clicked that link I’d find that the ‘much more important thing that we should be talking about’ would involve video games.
    Shows how little I care about cancel culture hysteria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Shows how little I care about cancel culture hysteria
    Woah, careful there. If you keep saying over and over again that you don’t care at some point I might start to believe you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Hey, remember how we were talking about letting China 'cancel culture' people through our corporations is much more insidious than whatever people are freaking out about today about SJWs? First thing I find when I open the internet:

    https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1...962632193?s=19

    Instead of spilling so much ink on a topic that pretty much doesn't matter, we should probably look a little harder at this.
    Suppressing speech, teaching children to gamble... man, Blizzard loves violating our cultural norms. It’s sure lucky they live in a country that has rule of law and not in the country they’re actually loyal to.

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    Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

    ‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

    By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Suppressing speech, teaching children to gamble... man, Blizzard loves violating our cultural norms. It’s sure lucky they live in a country that has rule of law and not in the country they’re actually loyal to.
    2010s are the decade of teaching children to gamble and getting them hooked on nicotine. Hey remember when Obama didn't go along with restricting tobacco companies from marketing vaping products as candy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

    ‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

    By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.
    Past two days? Is there something going on here I'm forgetting about?

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    It will be interesting when millennials have the lowest rates of lung cancer compared to generations around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Let's not forget that the idea of 'deplatforming' your political opponents started as a Gamergate tactic to 'punish' gaming outlets for being 'anti-gamer'. Never started with the horrid SJWs.
    lmao, what? The tactic of boycotting a public figure as a means of punishment for having said or done something found offensive or odious by the public is about as old as the civil rights movement itself. Glenn Beck and other AM radio hosts have been subject to advertising boycotts going back a decade. The idea of mass outcry followed by organized attempts to remove an offending party is extremely old, and has been with us for much of the public's consumption of broadcast media (and most certainly so long as the pulling by advertisers have been a lever for punishment).

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    And if you want something closer to Gamergate, look no further than Christian organizations in the 90's and probably 80's who were in a state of panic that satanic lyrics were poisoning the minds of our children and sought to censor, remove, and shelter from all forms of musical and television corruption on the minds of our children. Ditto for the very same sort of moral panic that communists were likewise poisoning the minds of our children.

    Desperate attempts to remove those we oppose for their influence on the public are extremely old, and I could probably dig up tons more examples from the 2010's (Twitter) or even the 1990's/2000's (political correctness).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Past two days? Is there something going on here I'm forgetting about?
    NBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    NBA
    Ah yeah, heard a snippet and so I just read about it.

    I have a feeling we're going to see bigger consequences for this on the road ahead.
    Last edited by Reid; 10-08-2019 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Ah yeah, heard a snippet and so I just read about it.

    I have a feeling we're going to see bigger consequences for this on the road ahead.
    Dear Nike,

    Drop all NBA players or we will close your sweatshops.

    Kind regards,

    - the fascist Han supremacist government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    lmao, what? The tactic of boycotting a public figure as a means of punishment for having said or done something found offensive or odious by the public is about as old as the civil rights movement itself. Glenn Beck and other AM radio hosts have been subject to advertising boycotts going back a decade. The idea of mass outcry followed by organized attempts to remove an offending party is extremely old, and has been with us for much of the public's consumption of broadcast media (and most certainly so long as the pulling by advertisers have been a lever for punishment).
    For Reid, cancel culture is “nothing new” and doesn’t exist, unless you can pin it on something that smacks of conservatism, in which case it’s definitely both exists and is bad, because of its conservative pedigree.

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    About time that someone stood up to the cancel culture mob, amirite???!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

    ‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

    By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.
    It’s making “liberals” look a little more like neocons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor View Post
    About time that someone stood up to the cancel culture mob, amirite???!
    How petty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    How petty
    It was just a joke! Surely three question marks is enough to signify sarcasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor View Post
    It’s making “liberals” look a little more like neocons
    Sure seems like every businessman is a liberal, until they have to choose between being shut out from the Chinese market and losing business from rich westerners with morals.

    Gummet plz tariff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor View Post
    It was just a joke! Surely three question marks is enough to signify sarcasm?
    Ah, mb. Appreciate the humor even if I miss it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Sure seems like every businessman is a liberal, until they have to choose between being shut out from the Chinese market and losing business from rich westerners with morals.

    Gummet plz tariff
    Wasn't the whole point of the Trans Pacific Partnership? free trade between everyone but China => basically a collective tariff on China.

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    Trump didn’t comply with congress’s russia sanctions and faced no consequences for it, so why would you think he would comply with anything else? Maybe next time don’t let a bunch of rural slave owning royalists dictate your constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Trump didn’t comply with congress’s russia sanctions and faced no consequences for it, so why would you think he would comply with anything else? Maybe next time don’t let a bunch of rural slave owning royalists dictate your constitution.
    I mean, if this is how it is, then America is a failed state. No two ways about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Wasn't the whole point of the Trans Pacific Partnership? free trade between everyone but China => basically a collective tariff on China.
    The “newspaper of record” version was to exclude China and consolidate financial power around the United States. The way I read the TPP is actually to unify all of China’s major trading partners into a single bloc, so China is eventually forced to sign as a matter of survival (and therefore accept US capital and intellectual property ownership).

    Of course that didn’t actually happen, because Trump is mentally disabled. And now Trump is trying to negotiate a separate free trade agreement with China from a much weaker negotiating position which will do nothing but cement the current relationship between the US and China. Which fortunately for you will amount to nothing, I guess, because neither country honours their treaties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    The “newspaper of record” version was to exclude China and consolidate financial power around the United States. The way I read the TPP is actually to unify all of China’s major trading partners into a single bloc, so China is eventually forced to sign as a matter of survival (and therefore accept US capital and intellectual property ownership).

    Of course that didn’t actually happen, because Trump is mentally disabled. And now Trump is trying to negotiate a separate free trade agreement with China from a much weaker negotiating position which will do nothing but cement the current relationship between the US and China. Which fortunately for you will amount to nothing, I guess, because neither country honours their treaties.
    I'm guessing current TPP members don't want the US back even if we came back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    I'm guessing current TPP members don't want the US back even if we came back.
    I can only speak for one person in one of the signatories, but I don’t see any reason it would benefit me.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/..._distract_you/

    my favorite browse because the comments get progressively more out there as you go down
    sniff

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    My favorite is people mad at 'big tobacco' for banning vaping, when one of the products mentioned (Juul) is sold by Altira, a big tobacco company. Really sticking it to the little guy there, banning your own products, right? Someone even pointed this out and another replied "they're playing the long game"

    What does any of this mean

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    Tracking the Blizzard censorship discussion (side note: I ****in hate that people have only finally woken up about this because of a ****in video game).

    Over the last day I have seen a ridiculous number of people in the wild asking why it's not unconstitutional for American corporations to censor opinions voiced on their platforms. Apparently on some theory that they're "public companies", and therefore the constitution applies to them. And then I remembered this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie06 View Post
    Except it's not really a "private property" problem, is it? These social media companies are publicly traded companies
    And, well, I guess I'm sorry for holding you to such a high standard, Wookie06. Apparently this isn't something you can just expect people to understand about their own country's laws.

    Edit: And also apparently, there are a lot of Americans who I guess think they currently live under Stalinism? I mean really, if you guys think all publicly traded companies are apparatuses of the state, that's.... eh, whatever.
    Last edited by Jon`C; 10-09-2019 at 04:20 PM.

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    To be faaaaaaaaaair, corporations are the government now
    sniff

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    Not 100% of the translation. But it's basically something like that.

    Edit: there's also some dispute that this is 'officially' Blizzard. Some are saying it's NetEase. If I can find a more authoritative source, I'll fix it.
    Last edited by Reid; 10-09-2019 at 06:24 PM.

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    Blizzard goodwill write down timer starts... now.

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    Oh hey, Blizzards now stonewalling people from closing their accounts and GDPR data deletes.

    I guess one of the benefits of living in a country with the rule of law is they can treat fines from ignoring GDPR as a cost of doing business. If Bobby Kotick lived in China and behaved this way they’d put his family in a prison camp, execute him, and sell his organs.

    hmm, maybe the Chinese system is fairer after all
    Last edited by Jon`C; 10-09-2019 at 06:45 PM.

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    Disappointed as all hell that Trump is dumping the SDF.. they were the one group in the region the U.S. militarily backed that I pretty much wholly supported. And he throws them under the bus to, I don't know, convince dictators he wants to kiss their ass?

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    I don't understand that move. Surely it will erode the trust of such potential allies in the future.

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    By all accounts Trump's actions are very erratic and illogical. It's safe to assume he's not acting on any cogent motivations.

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    I'm sure president self-dealer has some cogent motivation.

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    I’m confused as hell why after almost no attention has been paid to the Kurds by the US media since the fall out from the October 2017 referendum on independence there’s a sudden outcry of sympathy for the Kurds. Of all the things that would take over the news cycle after impeachment, why this?

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    I assume this is rhetorical confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor View Post
    I’m confused as hell why after almost no attention has been paid to the Kurds by the US media since the fall out from the October 2017 referendum on independence there’s a sudden outcry of sympathy for the Kurds. Of all the things that would take over the news cycle after impeachment, why this?
    Because there's recent news directly involving them?

    I mean, I agree more people should have been paying attention. But I don't see why it would be surprising, since Trump just pulled out troops and Erdogan launched an attack, that it would be a topic of discussion.

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