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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    At least they were using the term correctly before he hijacked it like an elementary school child retorting, "I know you are, but what am I?".
    Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. Protesting fake news on social media while reporting fake news while hiding behind a facade of credibility. Not that they were/are the only ones. But, yes, when I used the term I was mocking several things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    Sure. I agree that most of what CNN publishes when it comes to politics is trivial non-sense.
    How so?

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    Here you go. I fixed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    Sure. I agree that most of what I publish when it comes to politics is trivial non-sense.
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    Well, I don't disagree. Although to twist your words a bit, in my defense, I only resort to posting non-sense in order to vent frustration at my opponents' apparent inability to even accept what I take to be trivially true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokodile View Post
    How so?
    Kroko, I only mean that the takeaway from CNN stories is often quite sensational, in that they seem to blow up minutia in order to cater to some petty political point. I.e., it's not "fake news", so much as clickbait. In fact I think they basically invented the medium, if you include remote controls in the set of devices that click (Fox News copied them!).

    On the other hand, I imagine almost everything CNN publishes is at least factually true, which is a hell of a lot more than can be said about some of the other cable news networks out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie06 View Post
    Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. Protesting fake news on social media while reporting fake news while hiding behind a facade of credibility. Not that they were/are the only ones. But, yes, when I used the term I was mocking several things.
    This is an important point actually, if it's true. I did always find the term somewhat stupid, since it presumed that fact checking a story was as simple as calling it "fake".

    That said, I really did think that in the early days of the term being thrown around by journos, they were really just talking about stories being shared on Facebook (admittedly usually by conservatives) that were overwhelmingly based on total bull****. As in, stuff that belonged in wacko tabloids, like World Weekly News or National Inquirer.
    Last edited by Reverend Jones; 11-06-2018 at 10:55 PM.

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    I mean, isn't it Trump himself who was spreading this santorum around the net way back in 2011, when he said things like, "I’m starting to think that he was not born here"?

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    Looks like Democrats have the house but not the Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    Kroko, I only mean that the takeaway from CNN stories is often quite sensational, in that they seem to blow up minutia in order to cater to some petty political point. I.e., it's not "fake news", so much as clickbait.
    Can you cite a few (or a couple of) examples of this? And are you talking about their shows or regular news programming? I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just haven't really considered what you're saying before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Looks like Democrats have the house but not the Senate.
    What does it mean in practice? Who "won" the primaries? Can one of those institutions be named the more important one for a party to control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokodile View Post
    What does it mean in practice? Who "won" the primaries? Can one of those institutions be named the more important one for a party to control?
    Well it means Republicans no longer have control over the entire government, so Trump will be forced to really negotiate if he wants certain legislation passed. It also means Republicans can't get another "**** poor people" tax bill through like in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    That said, I really did think that in the early days of the term being thrown around by journos, they were really just talking about stories being shared on Facebook (admittedly usually by conservatives) that were overwhelmingly based on total bull****. As in, stuff that belonged in wacko tabloids, like World Weekly News or National Inquirer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    I mean, isn't it Trump himself who was spreading this santorum around the net way back in 2011, when he said things like, "I’m starting to think that he was not born here"?
    Actually, it's not as simple as calling them conservative or just pointing back to Trump a few years ago although he did a pretty good job of trolling everyone back then. Really think about how long urban legends have been going on. Social media just made it exponentially easier to spread phony stories. Personally, I've been fact checking things for years prior to social media ever existing. Spreading easily disprovable misinformation has been a long time pet peeve of mine. You probably notice more crazy-ish stories but they just are the most recognizable. Far less sensational stories are worse in my opinion because they are less obviously false. For example, as a veteran (a term I never use to qualify my opinion), I see quite a few things from people who think they are supporting the military by spreading stories about military issues. Often the stories are misrepresenting the quality of VA treatment (far better than most say), financial compensation (far better than most say), etc. I think it's just as bad to spread that false information as it is to question the former president's birth place (although I have always wondered why he has an east coast ssn and I'm not even a birther).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Well it means Republicans no longer have control over the entire government, so Trump will be forced to really negotiate if he wants certain legislation passed. It also means Republicans can't get another "**** poor people" tax bill through like in 2017.
    Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokodile View Post
    What does it mean in practice? Who "won" the primaries? Can one of those institutions be named the more important one for a party to control?
    Everyone that was on a ballot today won the primaries. Everyone that won the election today will, most likely, take office in January. As far as which is more important, it really should be the House because, in theory, it is the component of the federal government that is supposed to be closest to the individual voter. In practice, discounting the executive since it's a midterm election, it's probably the senate. When the party in the white house controls the senate there is far greater ability to shape the federal government for years to come (like the supreme court).
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    What. The. ****.

    > Be me.
    > Go to check election results
    > Realize that most American media outlets are annoying
    > Try to go to BBC America
    > Type http://bbc.com/america
    > Am suddenly sucked into a time warp as I arrive at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/americas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokodile View Post
    Can you cite a few (or a couple of) examples of this? And are you talking about their shows or regular news programming? I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just haven't really considered what you're saying before.
    Well, cable news in general is a zoo. Their website might be slightly better, but, for example, you can read this article, chastising CNN for milking the Malaysia airlines disappearance for eyeballs when there was in fact nothing to report (this editorial is not particularly well written--it's just something I found from a quick google search for "cnn sensational").
    Last edited by Reverend Jones; 11-06-2018 at 11:34 PM.

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    Fox News does the same thing. They bombard their viewers with "breaking news" in order to engage their viewers amygdala and show them disasters, serial killers, and terrorist attacks, so they are continuously amped up on fear and are gripped to their seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    Well, cable news in general is a zoo. Their website might be slightly better, but, for example, you can read this article, chastising CNN for milking the Malaysia airlines disappearance for eyeballs when there was in fact nothing to report (this editorial is not particularly well written--it's just something I found from a quick google search for "cnn sensational").
    I forgot about the plane. That was definitely a farce for the network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokodile View Post
    What does it mean in practice?
    They will be sorry.

    Oh yes, they will be sorry.
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    I don’t understand why Fox coordinating with the Republican Party isn’t a violation of campaign finance law. Isn’t coordination the red line for Citizens United?

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    Also, isn’t Citizens United a very ironic name since

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    I don't know what coordination you're referring to but who would dare to complain about it if it does exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie06 View Post
    I don't know what coordination you're referring to but who would dare to complain about it if it does exist?
    People who care about the original intent of laws as they were written.

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    I live in Texas. **** me to death.

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    I mean, hi ho status quo or whatever.

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    I'm sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    How to vote on salvia
    sniff

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    In more funny news, I recently heard about this company called Conservative Move. This is their mission statement: “Helping families move from liberal states to Conservative states like Texas, Idaho, etc. Better jobs, low crime, great schools, freedom, low taxes and more. We are experts in real estate.“

    Then, obviously, I wondered if there was such a thing to help families move from red states to liberal states. Then I remembered, oh right, lol, jobs. It’s jobs that help families move from red states to liberal states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    People who care about the original intent of laws as they were written.
    I'm sorry, you'll have to be more specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    I live in Texas. **** me to death.
    I know, dodged a huge bullet there. Don't worry, your Californian immigrants will fix things for you soon enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    In more funny news, I recently heard about this company called Conservative Move. This is their mission statement: “Helping families move from liberal states to Conservative states like Texas, Idaho, etc. Better jobs, low crime, great schools, freedom, low taxes and more. We are experts in real estate.“

    Then, obviously, I wondered if there was such a thing to help families move from red states to liberal states. Then I remembered, oh right, lol, jobs. It’s jobs that help families move from red states to liberal states.
    lol
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    So Trump fired Sessions today and installed a loyalist, which means he is doing his damnedest to obstruct the investigation.

    So this means the House will move to impeach Trump immediately in January, I think. We're probably going to have a serious crisis on our hands here. Woo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    In more funny news, I recently heard about this company called Conservative Move. This is their mission statement: “Helping families move from liberal states to Conservative states like Texas, Idaho, etc. Better jobs, low crime, great schools, freedom, low taxes and more. We are experts in real estate.“

    Then, obviously, I wondered if there was such a thing to help families move from red states to liberal states. Then I remembered, oh right, lol, jobs. It’s jobs that help families move from red states to liberal states.
    California is the epitome of "success breeds jealousy" in America. The vitriol conservatives have for it is incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    California is the epitome of "success breeds jealousy" in America. The vitriol conservatives have for it is incredible.
    California isn't successful, they have regulations and high taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    So Trump fired Sessions today and installed a loyalist, which means he is doing his damnedest to obstruct the investigation.

    So this means the House will move to impeach Trump immediately in January, I think. We're probably going to have a serious crisis on our hands here. Woo!
    At least the Republicans have two months to figure out how to consolidate power. There's still hope, Wookie.

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    Re: Jeff Sessions' firing, the funniest comment I've seen on the internet (although I don't know who wrote it)

    "I guess Trump isn't entirely against removing old confederate statues after all"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie06 View Post
    I know, dodged a huge bullet there. Don't worry, your Californian immigrants will fix things for you soon enough.
    "failed to extract a huge bullet," really.

    Also, the "importing California liberalism" meme is one of the more hilarious ones that's been promulgated in TX this election season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    "failed to extract a huge bullet," really.

    Also, the "importing California liberalism" meme is one of the more hilarious ones that's been promulgated in TX this election season.
    They are though, stealing tech talent from CA is big business for Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    Re: Jeff Sessions' firing, the funniest comment I've seen on the internet (although I don't know who wrote it)

    "I guess Trump isn't entirely against removing old confederate statues after all"
    owie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    So Trump fired Sessions today and installed a loyalist, which means he is doing his damnedest to obstruct the investigation.
    It's not actually possible for him to obstruct the investigation from what I've learned. He can legally order it shut down if he wants. Actually, kind of surprising it hasn't been shut down yet. Maybe they should just create a new department.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    So this means the House will move to impeach Trump immediately in January, I think. We're probably going to have a serious crisis on our hands here. Woo!
    Although I'll be disappointed if they don't move for impeachment that will probably one of the dumbest things they could possibly do. It would be so easy for democrats to sway voters to their side but my guess is they'll get them to turn on them. Again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    California is the epitome of "success breeds jealousy" in America. The vitriol conservatives have for it is incredible.
    I think the thing with California is all of the refugees fleeing that go to other states and then vote for the same crap they did in California. California all by itself wouldn't be so bad if it weren't infecting the rest of the country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    At least the Republicans have two months to figure out how to consolidate power. There's still hope, Wookie.
    They couldn't get much done with both houses and I can't imagine it'll be much different now. Just a bit more entertaining. I don't know why we, as a nation, have to be saddled with another term of Speaker Pelosi though. Can't we all agree on that?

    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    "failed to extract a huge bullet," really.

    Also, the "importing California liberalism" meme is one of the more hilarious ones that's been promulgated in TX this election season.
    Was that a thing? That's like importing plastic dog crap. Who does that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wookie06 View Post
    It's not actually possible for him to obstruct the investigation from what I've learned. He can legally order it shut down if he wants. Actually, kind of surprising it hasn't been shut down yet. Maybe they should just create a new department.
    Bull****.

    I think the thing with California is all of the refugees fleeing that go to other states and then vote for the same crap they did in California. California all by itself wouldn't be so bad if it weren't infecting the rest of the country.
    Well hey, why don’t you let them secede and find out what America would be like if it were run like Kansas?

    California pays for all of the pork and socialism that keeps you employed. And yes, you means you, Mr. former government recruiter who scrubs floors at a have-not state’s school.

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