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The Expanse
2017-02-13, 8:11 AM #1
Anyone else watch it? I've been watching season 1 on Amazon prime video. The first couple of episodes didn't really grab me but I didn't have anything else to watch so I kept at it. Now I'm really enjoying it. I think I'm on 7 or 8 now.
2017-02-13, 8:23 AM #2
I enjoyed the first season but haven't yet watched the second. I'm nearly done with the first season of Westworld (HBO), which is fantastic, & I'm about halfway through the first season of Travelers (Netflix), which is fun.
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2017-02-13, 9:56 AM #3
I can't handle the gratuitous violence and sex in Westworld. The show can be provocative and raise some thoughtful questions about natural selection and the origins of intelligence, but damn is it perverse.
former entrepreneur
2017-02-13, 10:15 AM #4
Well, it's HBO.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2017-02-13, 10:25 AM #5
Game of Thrones and Westworld take it to a different level. Even beyond Rome or The Sopranos.
former entrepreneur
2017-02-13, 10:59 AM #6
I enjoyed Westworld. I watched one and a half episodes of Game of Thrones and so far there's just nothing in there that catches my interest even a little bit. How many episodes do I have to watch before it gets good?

I want more science fiction shows. More. More more!!
2017-02-13, 11:20 AM #7
Originally posted by Eversor:
I can't handle the gratuitous violence and sex in Westworld. The show can be provocative and raise some thoughtful questions about natural selection and the origins of intelligence, but damn is it perverse.

These sorts of complaints always strike me as prudish. I don't want to watch a television show where half of the story has to be left up to my imagination because people are offended by the human anatomy. If you leave out the violence, you're leaving out half the point. When they're trying to get across just how terrible humans can be, I really don't want to imagine it--I want to see it.
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2017-02-13, 11:52 AM #8
I'm not opposed to violence in movies/TV per se. But the depiction of the violence in GoT/Westworld isn't intended to turn a mirror on us and show us "just how terrible" we are. It's intended to be titillating.
former entrepreneur
2017-02-13, 2:41 PM #9
This thread is strange. Brian starts a thread about a TV show and somebody else is complaining about graphic sex and violence. WTH?
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2017-02-13, 2:51 PM #10
Is there a rule about staying on topic?
former entrepreneur
2017-02-13, 3:05 PM #11
Not here.

I can't explain it; graphic "fantasy" violence usually doesn't bother me a bit. I was horrified when I was a kid and saw movies like Braveheart, but I'm mostly over it now. On the other hand, graphic sexual violence (rape scenes) cause me to instantly turn off the show and not watch it again unless it's like the best show ever, and in that case I just leave and come back when it's over. I can't and don't watch them.

Sometimes it gets to me. The scene in The Walking Dead where they killed you know who by bashing his head in and he was still half alive, blubbering with brain damage... that was too much. Some movies/shows I just avoid because I know it's in there and I don't want to see it. I didn't realize Westworld was going to be as violent as it was but I didn't find it over the top.

Violence in real life bothers me.

The consensual sex scenes don't bother me. I don't generally watch movies where women are forced into it, or things about prostitution, pornography, etc., because it really bothers me.

The Expanse has quite a bit of talking and not that much action. There is some graphic violence and at least one cool space battle so far. The description they put on Amazon video was so lame; "some girl went missing in space and some cop is looking for her..." Something like that. Made me never want to watch it. But some article I saw somewhere said it was a good show so I decided to check it out. Whoever wrote that description should be fired.
2017-02-14, 3:28 PM #12
Originally posted by Eversor:
But the depiction of the violence in GoT/Westworld isn't intended to turn a mirror on us and show us "just how terrible" we are. It's intended to be titillating.

If humans are indeed aroused by violence &/or sexual imagery, that's all the more reason to demonstrate this, in my opinion. As Brian also mentioned, I found the infamous The Walking Dead scene to be quite disturbing, but that was the point. I don't buy that it's just about ratings, though I certainly wouldn't deny that they're a factor. In the case of TWD, I suspect that it had a lot to do with wanting the viewer to crave revenge.
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2017-02-14, 4:48 PM #13
How did the ratings do after that episode, by the way? I know one of my sisters stopped watching the show after that. I only kept watching because I had purchased the season pass on amazon ahead of time. If I hadn't, I would have stopped watching. Not really for that one episode, but because the whole season so far has been really ****ty.
2017-02-14, 6:45 PM #14
Looks like TWD's ratings have fallen since that episode, but to be fair, I'm fairly positive that scene was from the comic series...
omnia mea mecum porto
2017-02-14, 11:33 PM #15
I just watched the show Fargo and it was pretty good. You can't really tell, but I'm typing with an accent right now you know.
2017-02-15, 1:37 AM #16
I've got an expanse in my pants right now.

;)

;)

;)

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...

Well, actually, just under my clothes.

... And it's a hernia.

But still.
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2017-02-15, 4:42 AM #17
My problem with Westworld is that for all their trying there's absolutely no compelling mystery or intrigue.

Enjoyable wallpaper though.
nope.
2017-02-15, 6:07 AM #18
Blah. I just finished season 1 of The Expanse. It was great until the final moments of the finale. Then it sucked. Hard. It was so dumb. Ugh.
2017-02-15, 10:35 AM #19
Originally posted by Vin:
I just watched the show Fargo and it was pretty good. You can't really tell, but I'm typing with an accent right now you know.

Billy Bob Thornton is fantastic in that.
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2017-02-15, 10:45 AM #20
Originally posted by Baconfish:
My problem with Westworld is that for all their trying there's absolutely no compelling mystery or intrigue.

I found Dolores' & the Man in Black's quest for the maze, the mystery of Arnold, & how things would turn out for Maeve & friends to be compelling.
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2017-02-15, 10:48 AM #21
Originally posted by Brian:
How did the ratings do after that episode, by the way? I know one of my sisters stopped watching the show after that. I only kept watching because I had purchased the season pass on amazon ahead of time. If I hadn't, I would have stopped watching. Not really for that one episode, but because the whole season so far has been really ****ty.

I wanted to stop watching after that night but I have continued because that scene gave me a thirst for revenge.
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2017-02-15, 10:49 AM #22
Originally posted by Brian:
Blah. I just finished season 1 of The Expanse. It was great until the final moments of the finale. Then it sucked. Hard. It was so dumb. Ugh.

That's how I felt about Lost. I'm hoping to watch the new season of The Expanse in the next few weeks.
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