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    Vegetarianism & humanity

    Lev (Leo) Tolstoy said,



    I'm yet to read his books, but I read a little about him, and he seems to have been very much a one love type of a guy.

    I can easily imagine a future, should humanity survive, where killing an animal would be considered almost as immoral as killing a man is today.

    It may sound cheesy, but it makes sense: if we can close our eyes on our constant skinning / killing of animals en masse, we can close our eyes on killing each other just as easily. Most people do.

    Will everybody be a vegetarian in the future?
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    I read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. It's a good story, kind of has Nietzschean/Heideggerian vibes on finding meaning in life and living authentically. Though I found its message a little.. obvious? as in it wasn't life changing, but it was a good commentary on beliefs I had already developed.

    I'd have to read more Tolstoy to fully back this claim but I came out feeling Tolstoy was more nuanced of a writer than Dostoevsky.

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    You guys know who else was a vegetarian?

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    Thomas Eddison, Mahatma Gandhi, Bernard Shaw, Benjamin Franklin, Ralph Waldo Emerson to name just a few outspoken ones (as per the quotations website).

    Also Hitler (as per Wikipedia), apparently because he was distressed by animals suffering. We humans are interesting creatures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    You guys know who else was a vegetarian?
    It's ok. He arrived at it gradually:

    Towards the end of his life, Adolf Hitler followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. By 1938, Hitler's public image as a vegetarian was already being fostered and from 1942 he self-identified as a vegetarian.

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    As for Dostoevsky, I read The Gambler, which I found somewhat enjoyable.
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    Checkov is cool, judging by the one story of his I'd read, The Cherry Stone. I don't know if there's an English translation, but it's about how this one dude got into a duel; his opponent missed, so the dude takes a rain check on his pistol shot.

    And Alexander Pushkin to the Russian language is what William Shakespeare is to English.
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    BTW, here's the state of American science fiction this (and the previous) year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._K._Jemisin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koobie View Post
    Checkov is cool, judging by the one story of his I'd read, The Cherry Stone. I don't know if there's an English translation, but it's about how this one dude got into a duel; his opponent missed, so the dude takes a rain check on his pistol shot.
    Huh. There's a scene almost exactly like that in The Brothers Karamazov..

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    Between everyone having similar ideas and everyone stealing, it's no wonder that 90% of everything is crap.

    Take this story in Mike Resnick's Galaxy's Edge I accidentally stumbled into the other night. As the Sunlight Grabs Me by Rachelle Harp (http://www.galaxysedge.com/). Hmm. A pseudo-sentient flying war machine, called a Dragonfly, psy-linked with its pilot ...

    ... I wonder where I've heard that one before.
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    It's not that similar, probably just a coincidence.

    But come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koobie View Post
    Between everyone having similar ideas and everyone stealing, it's no wonder that 90% of everything is crap.
    True that, being truly original is hard.

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    As long as writing to Pink Floyd continues to give me a hard on, hard is gonna be the new easy.
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    It's too bad we let this thread die because it was about an interesting topic!

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    This thread is immortal. And so are you.
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    Realistically eating meat is immoral, but I just pretend I don't know that and eat meat anyway. I guess you could say I'm a man of contradictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Realistically eating meat is immoral, but I just pretend I don't know that and eat meat anyway. I guess you could say I'm a man of contradictions.
    You're the whole universe/God/Koobie, you contain multitudes, how could you not contradict yourself?

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    I contradict myself.

    I am in a tunnel.

    But only for you.

    I am the tunnel. But we are humans so.

    It's all in my head.

    Or is it?

    I am the last of the real ones.

    And so are you.
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    Live long and prosper!
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    This is the gift of consciousnesses.

    I'm just slow like a turtle.



    I will get better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    You're the whole universe/God/Koobie, you contain multitudes, how could you not contradict yourself?
    You're the whole universe/God/saberopus, you contain multitudes, how could you not contradict yourself.

    You're just arguing with yourself here, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    You're the whole universe/God/Koobie, you contain multitudes, how could you not contradict yourself?
    Ah yeah, I forgot, I'm Hitler, so I already AM a vegetarian! Problem solved!

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    You know what's really cool about God?

    He is invisible. Well, at least he is to me, as of today.

    Feel free to join the congregation

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    Looks like RJ needs more of me in his life!

    He shouldn't worry. I'm all there is already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Ah yeah, I forgot, I'm Hitler, so I already AM a vegetarian! Problem solved!
    Yes. You are the beauty and the beast. The rapist and the raped. The blessed and the damned.

    Otherwise, we would have never evolved to where we are now. We are not going to stop now.

    Have a nice day!
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    I already miss Koobie. Not particularly because of the content (for instance, I just read his previous post (the one right above this one) for the first time), but because through a round-about way, Koobie made these forums about me again.

    Oy.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot Koobie called me Hitler, then called me a rapist.

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    Small doses of Koobie would be fine, if such a thing were possible. But it's just not possible for me to resist egging him on, and the more he responds the more I resent him (didn't Spook say something about how this place is basically a pub?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    (didn't Spook say something about how this place is basically a pub?).
    It's still clearly my retirement home (so the others' pub/party?).

    As pictured in the last logo - and the finale of - the FGR 2017 Holiday (Logo) Story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot Koobie called me Hitler, then called me a rapist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    Small doses of Koobie would be fine, if such a thing were possible. But it's just not possible for me to resist egging him on, and the more he responds the more I resent him (didn't Spook say something about how this place is basically a pub?).

    Our conversations sound exactly like a bunch of disaffected middle aged barflys at an Irish pub

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    We're all Hitler :smile:.

    Peace and love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spook View Post
    Our conversations sound exactly like a bunch of disaffected middle aged barflys at an Irish pub
    For some reason I find this depiction endearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid View Post
    For some reason I find this depiction endearing.
    We should produce a cartoon about it
    Epstein didn't kill himself.

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