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    Hard drive recommendations?

    I am in the market for a pair of 4TB "NAS"-grade hard disk drives. I have read that HGST made excellent such drives, but, since having been sold by Hitachi to Western Digital (apparently in order to comply with the rules of the Communist Party of China or something like that??), the drives now are declining in quality (for example, the newer models, rather than running almost silently, apparently emit a deafening clicking sound all the time).

    I've bought Seagate in the past. I've always heard bad things about Western Digital. Any suggestions?

    Edit: per this comment, I have tentatively decided to buy a pair of these refurbished drives, since they seem to be the older, better version of the HGST drive, before WD changed it.
    Last edited by Reverend Jones; 01-11-2019 at 11:28 PM.

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    NIKVMVS-REX-TODOA

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    Really? Damn, I guess the next time I'll upgrade my computer, I'll have to go with SSDs only. I haven't had any complaints with my Samsung T3 external SSDs (1TB and 512GB), or with the internal "950 PRO" for that matter.

    No idea what NAS is.

    But yeah, HGST was pretty good. I have a 2TB Western Digital HDD in this computer as well, yet it used to run without oddities until I carried out my catastrophic UE4 experiment and, due to how UE4's editing tools work, a lot of random data on it got corrupted.

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    Since my last 4 TB drive died I've kept it in the freezer, waiting for a price drop in 8 or 10 TB drives. That has been about 5 years ago or so...
    Sorry for the lousy German

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    Admiral of Awesome
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    Ironically, this "good" HGST you guys are talking about is the only drive I've ever owned that died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikumubeki View Post
    Really? Damn, I guess the next time I'll upgrade my computer, I'll have to go with SSDs only. I haven't had any complaints with my Samsung T3 external SSDs (1TB and 512GB), or with the internal "950 PRO" for that matter.
    Just to be clear, the new "HGST" drives might be great, even if (for all we know) they are totally different drives than what was being called HGST before. I think the biggest complaint I'm reading about the new drives is the deafening clicking noise they seem to constantly make.

    No idea what NAS is.
    It stands for Network Attached Storage. I was assuming that something marketed as an "NAS drive" would be more reliable, since it would be intended for things like backup and see heavy use.

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    back when HGST was IBM we used to call that the “click of death”. That meant it was time to put your hard drive in the freezer overnight and then back everything up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    It stands for Network Attached Storage. I was assuming that something marketed as an "NAS drive" would be more reliable, since it would be intended for things like backup and see heavy use.
    I see. Also reminds me of how my backup drive (a partition of the only HDD on my backup computer) is a Western Digital one, so I guess it's more or less a ticking time bomb.

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    WD might actually be alright, you can panic if it's Maxtor (****, I guess I mean Seagate)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon`C View Post
    back when HGST was IBM we used to call that the “click of death”. That meant it was time to put your hard drive in the freezer overnight and then back everything up.
    Even if it's not the click of death in this case, it certainly doesn't instil confidence in the manufacturer. If they think that insanely loud clicks are within acceptable parameters, I have to wonder what other cost-cutting measures they consider "acceptable".

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    WD is fine, Seagate is fine. It doesn’t matter. They’re the same thing. Some of them will fail early, all of them will fail eventually. Plan accordingly and don’t pay attention to any *****in.

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    Older harddrives used to click all the time. I've come to associate the sound with "my computer is working on something". So to me it's a positive sound. I kinda missed it when I got my first HDD that was more silent.
    Sorry for the lousy German

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    Of course, it is distinctly different from the click of death, which anyone could identify as broken.
    Sorry for the lousy German

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    I've had this drive sitting in my cart for a few months now. I really just want one to aggregate a bunch of old externals to although I would also like one to backup photos and videos to. I'm not particularly worried about speed.
    "I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16


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    Just don't forget to keep the other drives around, unless you plan to get two new drives and mirror the data, or simply do a cloud backup.

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    The data on my externals is relatively trivial. Mostly just high quality MP4s of most of my DVDs. For my photo and video backup I will most likely follow up with a NAS solution at some point.

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    So I ended up getting two of those 4TB drives when I saw the price at $85 each. Moving files off the old externals I found some huge fraps recordings I made of some streamed Hillsdale College courses a long time back. Adobe Premier wanted nothing to do with the files but good ole Handbrake took about 15 minutes to turn the first batch of 29GB files into around 300MB. I then used Premier to join them but I don't even qualify as a novice with the software yet so I did inflate the size a little. Took about 5 minutes for Premiere to complete the task.
    "I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16


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    I see what you did there... sneaky to pretend your homemade porn videos are "college course" videos

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    If I had homemade porn videos, and I'm not saying I do, they wouldn't be particularly pretty to look at.
    "I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16


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    Actually, now that I think about it, if a "Constitution Day" thread by me still exists here, that's how old these video files are. And these quotes aren't meant as wink, wink quotes Dr. Jones!
    "I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16


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