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    What would your next level have been?

    Let's pretend it's twenty years ago, you have lots of free time, and you're staring at that lone squared sector in Jed.

    What are you making?

    SP or MP? JK or MOTS?

    Do you have any old ideas that never saw the light of day?




    (Also hello! I lurk around often but never login. It brings me great joy to see this place still up and running.)

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    Do you have any old ideas that never saw the light of day?
    Sure, most of them! :-P

    I think the idea that kind of broke my brain w.r.t. editing JK was the fantasy that just about everything in the entire level could be a 3DO, and that I could just stick in a bunch of 3DO things to make things like sand dune segments, without any regard to convexity like you'd have to worry about if you'd done it with sectors.

    In fact pretty much every interesting idea I had was more or less an expression of annoyance at the JK engine for not letting me do things like the aforementioned 'prefab' technique that I noticed games like UT2k3 using, or light-maps, or height-maps. So it was always tempting to see if the engine could be made less primitive somehow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goit View Post
    Let's pretend it's twenty years ago, you have lots of free time, and you're staring at that lone squared sector in Jed.

    What are you making?
    Getting rid of the initial box might actually be the hardest bit, and making arched corridors is sort of the easiest way to get rid of it.


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    OR, if my skills and everything were like they were 20 years ago, it'd be more like this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHcM_sWU...jpg&name=small

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goit View Post
    Do you have any old ideas that never saw the light of day?
    is there water in the ocean?

    most of it MP, a lot of it heavily unfinished with a couple neat rooms built, one SP project that never really left the "in my head" stage because i realized pretty early i was far too lazy to make something that big ever happen... the short version of the story is "kyle checks out an old imperial mining facility that is supposedly still in use by some remnant group, signs of recent use but looks like nobody home, as he goes deeper into the facility it becomes quickly apparent they never left... basically turns into doom with lightsabers"

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    I started a bounty hunter SP level where you played as Greedo and had to find and kill someone. It was set on a race track in a tatooine style sand level.

    I had some ok dialog/plot and camera switching but the level itself was terrible. I had some decent pits with parked racers and R2 droids, the race track was created by extruding from within JkEdit to make a square joined corridor. There was a crowd area ( a shelf, really) with a few npcs looking at the track... But I couldn't figure out how to join the two ends up when they met so I just put a load of 3do racers all piled up each end to make it look like it was blocked by a crash xD
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    My last project was a single player level and I was really having fun with it. Starting underground I think but then outdoor, going up a canyon. I think it looked a lot better than the original JK canyon levels. I ran into issues with HOM when I started having too many adjoins in view at once, I guess, and I got discouraged and stopped.

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    The last thing I was working on was going to be pretty different, but fun. I got stuck on some of the cog work and ultimately gave up, or just generally lost interest. Essentially it was going to be a platforming level, but like one of those auto-scrolling ones like in the classic Mario games, with platforms to jump onto, run across, duck under, etc, and enemies to fight along the way. You and one other person would be set on an identical moving platform that slowly goes through a moving obstacle course, with a glass narrow glass panel room separating the two of you for spectators. This moving platform would be set over a lava pit (because why not) and essentially the goal was to make it to the end of the course first to win. If you fall off, you'd restart back at the beginning and press a button to restart the moving platform. Just like in the Mario games, you'd occasionally have to jump off your moving platform onto other platforms, and catch back up with the moving one to continue along the path.

    I actually got fairly far in the creation of the level, and probably still have some of the project buried in an archive somewhere on my hard drive. I started getting stuck with some of the moving platform cogs, and some of the 3dos weren't rendering properly (flicker bug) so I think I just gave up. I'd love to go back and finish it at some point, but there's not much to motivate me to do so.
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    It would have been my first level.
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    Hardcore sex simulation.
    TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Spruce View Post
    Hardcore sex simulation.

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    it'd probably be something like a GTA-styled immense realistic city level with pedestrians, traffic, drivable cars and all that, except every once in a while you'd be taken to a crazy fantasy world where gameplay style would switch to something almost MMORPG-like with items to gather and monsters you'd hunt for leveling, as well as bots doing the same stuff to simulate other players. On both scenarios there'd also be KotOR-style conversations and quests. There would also be an unusually large collection of guns (Star Wars and otherwise) that'd likely not even be used (except, perhaps, in some very sporadic extra levels based on historical events completely unrelated to the main thing) that'd be there simply because I am physically incapable of settling for a single style of gameplay and the whole thing would end up becoming an immense mess of content that could never realistically be finished !!

    also there'd be reasonably cool looking skies thanks jon'c for jkgfxmod


    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Jones View Post
    In fact pretty much every interesting idea I had was more or less an expression of annoyance at the JK engine for not letting me do things like the aforementioned 'prefab' technique that I noticed games like UT2k3 using, or light-maps, or height-maps. So it was always tempting to see if the engine could be made less primitive somehow....
    My current frustration is how hard it is to make race track levels (or rather, really smooth curves). I mean, the first Need for Speed had some pretty good looking tracks with really smooth curves and that was in 95! I believe JK can handle that, as these tracks are made out of rather small straight segments, which could here be made into sectors. But can you imagine the horror of actually making that in JED? The problem is just that there aren't any tools to make that sort of thing and I'm really not that willing to waste any more of my free time into making one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Spruce View Post
    Hardcore sex simulation.
    oddly enough, I remember seeing (hopefully?) leftover files in various projects that kind of... leaned in that direction, more often than one healthy individual should probably expect. Which raises the probably-but-hopefully-not-so-much-related question: how attached can one get to low-poly characters? Like, I imagine in this day and age, if I were to watch a full-length drama movie where everyone looked like JK characters, I'd probably have a really hard time relating or feeling attached to any of the characters. What magic tricks could be employed to make someone see a bunch of polygons as more than a bunch of polygons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMLiberator View Post
    various projects that kind of... leaned in that direction
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    rip cave demon

    What a thread

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    There's already a pornographic JK mod, haven't you people ever heard of T***s On D****s: Open A*******s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikumubeki View Post
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    rip cave demon

    What a thread
    I am simultaneously intrigued, disgusted and disgusted by the fact I'm intrigued

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMLiberator View Post
    I am simultaneously intrigued, disgusted and disgusted by the fact I'm intrigued
    Same, and rediscovering jkorgy was also somewhat unpleasant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goit View Post
    Do you have any old ideas that never saw the light of day?
    Also, Goit, I did play through one of the beta versions of Magrucko 3 somewhat recently - the version with all the original secret puzzles intact. I'd say it'd be a good idea to release them in some form, wink wink nudge nudge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael MacFarlane View Post
    It would have been my first level.
    Same.

    Also, I bet there'd have been Mandalorian stuff made. Debatable whether other Disney-era SW stuff would have seen any JK materials made by fans.
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    The last level I released (Spaceport) was intended to be much better and longer. I wanted it to have Escape from New York vibes in a Nar Shaddaa setting, with alot of different gameplay elements thrown in like a sneaking section metal gear solid style, a section where you have to earn enough cash working with a gang to buy some equipment, and a final act of having to blast through a military base to escape.

    But it was too much work to finish in time.

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    I would have liked to have made a Time Crisis level.

    I also wanted to make an isometric or side-scrolling squad-based dungeon crawler.

    I had a co-op level where each character had different skills and a leveling system.

    And one holiday break, I made an isometric RPG mod to play with some friends that had day/night transitions, multiplayer cutscenes, NPC interactions, and multiple "scenes/maps." Too bad I didn't save some video of that.

    Also, hi, Goit! I re-played a Magrucko not too long ago and had fun. I hope all's well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saberopus View Post
    There's already a pornographic JK mod, haven't you people ever heard of T***s On D****s: Open A*******s?
    Finally! I'm one step closer to discovering what [That One Device Of Abstraction] truly is!
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    I wish I could remember what my planned level was more fully. Funny, now that I'm going through it in my mind it seems that it was similar to what was the opening of The Force Unleashed. Oh well, if I had the time and energy to learn how to edit in a modern engine I would do The Star Wars Holiday Special Special Edition.
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