For those of you who have no clue what I'm talking about:
http://sine.geekvision.net/portfolio.html

I was working on a JA SP level that took place on Nar Shaddaa.

To make a long story short, my old computer died a few months ago. The hard drive, with my map and accompanying files, were intact. So recently, a local company my dad is familiar with builds a new one. I made it very, very clear to this guy that it is essential that the old hard drive go into the new computer, with all the files on it.

... So...when he delivers it the first time, he's forgotten to stick it in. I send it back for him to install it. He does, and there are no files on it. I send it back a second time, for him to retrieve them. Now, some of the files, like the textures are there, but some essentials - the map and shader files namely - are gone. My dad gave me some bull**** about the overheated motherboard damaging the hard drive, but I have never known a damaged hard drive to erase only certain file types within certain folders, and still function perfectly. I guess, considering he was able to retrieve certain files, there's the remote possibility that he could try *again* and get them all back... but I don't really know, considering I don't even know what the problem was to begin with. I'm not holding my breath.

So... yeah, it's gone. I still have a few skins, models, sounds and textures that I may use as part of a new project, but most likely I'll just release them as is. Thanks to all the people who gave support, suggestions and textures.

[edit: before you ask, no, I didn't have a backup. The old computer didn't have a burner, and my zip drive is broken.]

[This message has been edited by Sine Nomen (edited January 07, 2004).]

"STELLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!"

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'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.' 'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice. 'You must be,' said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

Does this mean I don't have to model that rifle?

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The Matrix: Unplugged

well this is a sign of the apocolys...

aww man, Sian... that sucks.
you should sue the guy for loss of personal property or some such thing

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i thought about this being the anti-sig... or the sig virus... or the sig of your nightmares... but i decided that some painful rhetoric might work instead...
just kidding.

But, but, but...

"No, this will not do. This will not do at all! It will not do so much that I can't even tell you how much this will not do!"

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It'd still make a nice mod, Thrawn. Your call.

All in favour of starting a special paypal account to raise money to have this repair guy killed, raise your hand.

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I'd kick that guys ***. I mean gah. I can't even imagine haveing all my stuff deleted. My special folder of all my stuff I ever did is about 3 gig...Don't you have a recent back up or something, or even a beta that you gave somebody a while back?

[edit: /me raises hand and hands Sine 200 dollars.

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SAJN_Master had sticky Shift button - wrote 179 lines in CAPS.
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[This message has been edited by Rod-Nog (edited January 07, 2004).]

Funny how your maps but nothing else is gone. Is any other data sporatically gone like that? I know it sounds far fetched, but people always poke around people's hard drives when they repair...

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

Tis a sad day indeed.

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You underestimate the power of the Dark Side...

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I would check with some beta testers to see if they have either a full version of the map, or different ones have different parts from all over. There's some kinda BSP decompile with q3map2, which could help. But if this is the end of Nar... well that sucks. God must have not liked all the people who worshiped you. Sorry.

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I was looking foward to that level. It looked great.

Did you save something on disks or gave betas out?

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On another note, I dont know if you're exactly this kind of person or not, but if you payed for this guy to do the work, you might have a case for a lawsuit... or something...

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You underestimate the power of the Dark Side...

DSettahr's Homepage

It wouldnt matter if he gave betas out, because they would be the compiled bsps which would be just as worthless as not having the source files.

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You underestimate the power of the Dark Side...

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I heard you can turn .bsps into .map files (someway)...

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*raises hand*

That sucks. Your map was awesome.

No one has all the maps, there were several segments that were too huge to upload, and Sine never thought about zipping just the MAP files and uploading those.

I really don't buy it. Motherboards don't supply hard drives with power, making it pretty hard to fry them...And a hard drive that got fried would be fried. You wouldn't have just some files, perfectly intact scattered around in folders. I mean, there's nothing that can be more supicious other than an istoleyour****.txt file in his root directory.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

Q3map2 has a BSP decompiler.



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There are two asses in Massassi... and I'm one of them.
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Really? I didn't know that.

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****!

Wait. Wouldn't GTKradiant do an autosave?

(unless the whole .map file is gone.)

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[This message has been edited by Echoman (edited January 07, 2004).]

If he had snapshots on, he would have another with a different extension. But that is probably gone too.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

Is this type of situation really that common? It seems to happen pretty often at Massassi... I can think of quite a few projects lost to computer crashes. Bummer.

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Well, now there really is no reason to buy JA.
But seriously Sine, that sucks. I know you put a lot of effort into that, sorry to see it go.

Well it's not like I was gonna play it anyways seeing as I don't have the game, but I'm still very sorry to hear that. I know what it's like to lose a big project because of computer problems.

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When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

I actually had the same thing happen, back when I was working with a new Q3 engine game. Took my hard-drive to try to get the data off and then about a year later JO came out. THEY STOLED IT!

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eh... i lost about 5 maps when i built this new machine. everything on my old system just died. my backup cds seemed to be fine, but all of my .map files wouldn't load in radiant. the only way i was able to salvage restless endeavor was through a decompile of a .bsp, and getting all the glitches sorted out of it was a serious pain. it really sucks when you lose all that hard work and effort, and trust me i know; i've lost all my maps twice. while it is a sobering event, i often found my greatest inspiration after going through something like that. i'm sure something good will come out of this.

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There is a thin line between insanity and stupidity. I am that line.

Asp, in the future you should have someone look at recovering the MAP file manually if you are unable to.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

*raises both hands and the hands of person next to him*

Aye Aye.....

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The board is set, the pieces are moving......We come to it at last. -Gandalf

And this, my friends, is why I make the "repair guy" the utmost of last resorts.

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OMFG nooooo!!!!!



Man, all that work down the drain due to outside problems. I feel sorry for you. It was the best map architecture for any game I have seen.



Answer this question for a last hope that isn't there.

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My quote: "People choose to side with the left, and the others choose to side with the right. I go forward."

The /maps folder is empty.

You might look into the temp folders, but I doubt anything would be there.

I doubt the repair guy stole them...but are there any other folders missing in the JA directory?

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[This message has been edited by Echoman (edited January 07, 2004).]

This is horrible, horrible news

Bad up disks are your friends

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[This message has been edited by Avenger (edited January 07, 2004).]

Did you just not have room for a burner or a new zip drive. I mean, you can pick up a new 52x32x52x for about $30. No sense in crying over spilled milk I guess...good luck with what you do next.

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No room. ..And..

...Two years of work, buddy...look, I'm not asking for an outpouring of sympathy or anything, but I think it makes perfect sense to be fairly pissed about this.

there is a difference between spilled milk and a complete moron posing as a "professional" messing up your data

according to sine the guy put in much less RAM than they agreed on and somehow couldn't find a Radeon 9800

if i was in sine's situation the guy who built the machine would be begging for a mercy killing

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