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I just hope it has co-op. That was one of the things I loved most about the first two DooMs.

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It'll be forever before it comes out.

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Meh. Far Cry looks almost as good indoors, and outdoors it looks way better than Doom 3.

That's the problem with creating an amazing graphics engine and then delaying it so long. It won't be able to compare with other popular games by the time it finally comes out.

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Yep. I'm no longer impressed by Doom 3 or HL2, graphics-wise. They missed the boat.

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Well, Doom 3 graphics look nice. But the enemies are questionable. Evil fat people? Demon babies?

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Uh...welcome to 1993. That's doom.

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I can remember drooling over the first released Doom3 screenshots. I never drooled over any HL2 screenshots....

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Although Doom III may not look as shiny as Half Life 2 or Far Cry, I believe it's engine lifetime will be considerably longer than those of other engines. Why do I say this? For a number of reasons. First, lets look at Carmack's track record. Many, many games use licenced versions of the quake engines. When Quake III first came out, it didn't look nearly as good as the quake III based games do today. Half Life 2 has all those fancy features thrown in from the start: Havok physics, DirectX 9 shaders, deformable terrain, and pretty much every bell and wistle out there. Doom III, on the other hand, seems to have a much simpler and elegant foundation. Instead of focusing on features and eye candy, it is geared toward stable tech that is used globally. For example, everything in Doom III has a bump map. everything is run through the per pixel lighting system. Advanced features can be implimented later, just like what happened with Quake III. Think of Half Life 2 like Windows: a shaky foundation with a wealth of features. Think of Doom III like Linux: Sparse, but is armed with an integrity to build on.

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HalfLife 2 > Doom 3 > Far Cry. Nuff said

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HL and Far Cry make me go "that looks cool"

Doom 3 makes me want to have sex with it

Doom 3 looks like a game i will definately love to play... the other look mor elike something i would love to look at more than play

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I disagree.

Id really love to play HL2. Id really dont care to play Doom3.

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I'm a little worried about my Radeon 9800 pro 128mb working well with Doom III. For example, Doom III is an openGL game. The GeforceFX line is designed for OpenGL and the Radeon 9x00 line is more designed for DirectX 9. I've even head rumors that the alpha ran faster on a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 than a Radeon 9700 Pro.

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GBK, for me, I want to play all those games. I just think Doom III will have the best tech in the long run.

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After Valve's lies and Doom3's setbacks, both have dropped considerably on my list. Also, we're forgetting one other game that, in my opinion, destroys all the others.

For me, it's:

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Oblivion Lost > Far Cry > Half-Life 2 > Doom3

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has the terrain capabilities of Far Cry, the dynamic lighting and bump mapping of Doom3, the physics of Half-Life, and it's an FPS/RPG. Every single thing I've wanted in a game.

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What I find humorous about most comments regarding Doom3 is that they aren't much impressed with the graphics any more. Whats funny about that is that Doom3 was designed with atmosphere in mind, not simply graphics.

Whether or not that goal has been reached in the time spent working on Doom3 is still a mystery. But I for one certainly hope so.

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Yes, Im sure many great games will be build off of the Doom3 engine, and I have no doubt it will steal Quake3's roll as the dominant 3d engine... However, Doom3 itself, the game itself, I realy have no desire to play. Problably because I never cared for the style, or maybe because I really, *really* hate dark games.

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Doom 3? Half-Life 2? Far Cry? Pfft, Duke Nukem Forever is going to beat all of these games.

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If it ever comes out.

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I don't really know - judging by Carmack's statements on D3 gameplay, I'm looking forward more to HL2, which has showed some spectacular ingame footage gameplay-wise. However, Doom3 has an editor that's very similar to GTK (Or may even be supported by GTK). So yeah, I don't really know. I'll just go and grab both.

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Carmack has been re-making the same game for a decade. I have a lot of respect for his engine designing, but he's never been a gameplay guru. I will give him credit for putting in more effort for Doom 3's gameplay than his previous efforts but yeah....



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I think carmack will make a really, really good engine, and the game will scare the bajeezus out of you, but It won't play all that well. HL2 should play really well, but if they arent careful, they're really gonna miss the boat (They called for a big september 2003 release, everyone got all excited, but then the setbacks came, and we arent gonna see it til MAYBE this summer)

I dont know which Im going to buy... maybe niehter, but probally HL2

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If they ever get released. That's the problem...

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That's EXACTLY, and I do mean EXACTLY true. My friends, one with Ti4200 and one with 9700 pro played it, and the Ti4200 beared around 15 fps lowest, 9700 pro 5 lowest. But that was an ALPHA man. You can't judge the full retail game like that. I heard that the QuakeCon2k4 had it, and that people were playing it. They had BEASTLY machines, and yet it was still getting 30 fps 640x480, which I think they shoulda bumpd it up to 800x600. 640x480's too dependent on the processor. But yah, Doom3 looks graphically more pleasing than Far Cry and/or Half-Life 2, sorry to say. And it's got its history behind it, meaning Quake 3. I mean c'mon, even Call of Duty used the Q3 engine, and that game is so sexy I...shouldn't say what I did. I just hope my poor Ti4400 fares decent.


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Mind you: QuakeCon2k4 was an MP demonstration.

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Good point...and I don't think its gold as far as optimization. But I guess we'll see .

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I think Doom 3 looks horrible. They are wasteing the engine! I mean those skulls...are octagons....And everything looks "shiney" or like its been covered in plastic. I never was interested in this...I'm still not interested Half-Life 2 all the way be-hotch!!!

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I think it's a genuine competition. Which will be released first - Half-Life 2, DooM3, or Duke Nukem Forever?

At the rate things are going, my money's on Team Fortress 2.

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The problem is that John Carmack is developing Doom III soley for Nvidia cards, not ATI cards. Which means he will be using only OpenGL.

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I don't know about you, but in most games on my system, OpenGL runs better on my ATi card than DirectX. I'll be having sex with DooMIII as soon as it comes out.

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What the hell is wrong with OpenGL? More chance of seeing a Linux port!

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Thats not true... He had to make a specific codepath just to get decent performance out of it. ATI's cards will just run it using the default path.

I'm quoting The 'mack himself.


I can even run Doom III on my crappy Radeon 9200se (which only has a 64bit memory pipeline!) at about 10-20fps. This was on the alpha too... I mean... 0_o.

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Your Radeon 9800 pros fine. I got one too, and it hits 80 fps constantly with an ease in the doom 3 alpha.



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eh? Have you seen doom3 in motion? If not, you should check out the e3 trailers. Trust me, you won't be noticing any rough edges.



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A lot of people also like to bash games they once thought were the greatest. They like going, "Oohh, Doom III, NOT SO TOUGH NOW HAHA!!" ...which I find kind of immature and just silly. As Farix mentioned, it was about atmosphere. And for the record, I don't find Far Cry to have better graphics. A rival at best. The characters in Doom III look a whole lot more real (and just cooler, I mean I can see pores and other things, Far Cry's are total plastic dolls), and the lighting model is unified and not buggy...

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