I haven't made anything personal, if that's what you're getting at. I simply said Ghorg should not judge people he doesn't know.

And yes, I don't care if they existed. The claims made are irrelevent for my reasons of supporting the war. And besides, there is currently no adequate proof that the information was false and misleading. And, if it was false and misleading, there is currently no proof that he knew that.

Also, I will not be pulled further into the debate. There's no sense in defending belief or even fact when people refuse to even consider it. Honestly, what is the point?

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited January 31, 2004).]

I completely and whole-heartedly agree. It's hard to sympathize with either side for fear of being associated with lunacy and stupidity.

For me, I don't care if any country goes "bullying around" to keep peace. All I care is that they do it right (unlike the US has done), and that they go after everyone, not just a guy who has oil and when your father...

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

I've posted links many times.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/crisis_in_the_gulf/decision_makers_and_diplomacy/58568.stm
http://www.wadinet.de/news/iraq/nw1199_frenchconnection.htm
http://www.bulldognews.net/iraq-france.html

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

That's what makes it wrong. Anybody could be attacked by anyone else at anytime. Granted, there are some prime suspects with means and motivations but is it worth turning the defense department into an offense department. The US doesn't have a defense department anymore. They have finally outright declared that it is now an offense department.

Yeah. He was evil. But how does the US become 'the police of the world'. They're not. They haven't removed many an evil man from power. Why? Who knows. Probably money.
One thing people can't or won't see is the murder of children in these conflicts. Since WW1 when people started dropping bombs out of planes there has been a 100% chance that children will be killed. Knowing these facts (and they are facts), is it worth have the deaths of thousands of children on your conscience? For some, yes. They cover it by stating it's the right thing to do as they sit in a comfy chair living the good life with internet service, abundant fresh food etc. at thier doorsteps.
I don't get it. I never will.

Exactly. None of us are there (excapt Wookie006) and none of us have the 'balls' to go there and find out. We are all just armchair generals.
On the other hand, it's debates (or lack thereof) like these that may open minds and have people look at things form a different point of view. It's our jobs as citizens to questions the government and complain about what they are spending our tax dollars on (which is why I don't understand why people get upset in these threads/discussions irl).

Looking past the obviously crazy scenario, this is so true.
Bush could bomb North Korea and the rest of the 'axis of evil' (ROFLMAO!!!) with his offense department and make the world a 'safer place' and die hards would say he's doing the right thing (remember Black Aurora?).
I personally like some of Bush's policies, but over all I think he/his administration are idiots (MHO).

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[This message has been edited by Darth Evad (edited February 01, 2004).]

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And if it were done with a democratic president, democrats around the country would be cheering their super president because it is so ingrained in so many people that if your party does something, it's ok.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Looking past the obviously crazy scenario, this is so true.

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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it || The Link of the Dead

Really, Evad, would you think it's "so true" if these people supported actions you agreed with?

No. It is so true. It's part of American (and probably many other coutries) identity that liberals are liberals and conservatives are conservatives. There's no changing it.

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To artificial life, all reality is virtual.

Then there are us moderates in the middle that enjoy laghing at both sides and have the occasional in-fighting.

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"What I find especially funny are the neo-Celtic religions based on accounts made by the Romans. It's like learning about Judaism from Nazi lore." --stat

Yeah. Told a friend of mine that I was a moderate non-partisan, he remarked, "Way to sit on the fence."

So I sit here, perched upon my fence.

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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it || The Link of the Dead

Sucks to be the CIA . . . . AGAIN.

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Multiplayer Game Alias: II88BlackOps
JA is awesome!
Corrupted Paths, my WIP for JA. Screens here: http://imagebase.freewebspace.com/photo.html

My quote: "People choose to side with the left, and the others choose to side with the right. I go forward."

Indeed.

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*