British aren't afraid of boobs, so why are Americans?


I still don't understand certain social taboos. We can see naked women in art, naked maniquins made to look almost exactly like women, but real naked women seen on TV is considered porn! Why? Why do the British understand this, but Americans don't???

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I remember having a really good conversation with my aunt about this exact same topic, but unfortunately I'm too sick to remember what we said.

When I'm feeling better I'll get back to you.

I'll give you the reason why: *****y retards who think it's their job to get offended at everything and sue, despite everyone else not minding it

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"What I find especially funny are the neo-Celtic religions based on accounts made by the Romans. It's like learning about Judaism from Nazi lore." --stat

Because Janet Jackson is ugly, and the British are used to ugly women.

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That's what I hate. Some people just ***** for the sake of *****ing. I bet half the people who were offended by Janet's boob thing did it just to protest something. It's a boob! Everyone has them. Men have them too, only theirs' are (usually) smaller than women's and don't have the ability to provide milk! It's a boob! It's natural! GAAAAAAAH!!!!!

/end boob rant

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Kids must be shot by Monday.

Honesty tests for workers can't be trusted, report says.

Psychopaths are unpredictable.

Jay Leno's Headlines > Everything

Yeah, but Jordan, the model they're talking about in the article, sure isn't!!! She is FINE!!

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Kids must be shot by Monday.

Honesty tests for workers can't be trusted, report says.

Psychopaths are unpredictable.

Jay Leno's Headlines > Everything

Actually, I can see where the Janet thing was inappropriate. It's on a basic channel with kids watching. Had it been on MTV, I doubt anyone would have said anything.

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"What I find especially funny are the neo-Celtic religions based on accounts made by the Romans. It's like learning about Judaism from Nazi lore." --stat

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The breast didn't offend me....it was more the preceeding 15 minutes of unadulterated crap.

Actually scratch that, the breast did offend me, but not in the way it offended a lot of others. It was the fact it was a sad publicity stunt for a fading singer and has as a result stirred up so much BS that more people are talking about it than about one of the best Superbowl games ever.

THAT offends me.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1 & 2 | Gonkmeg
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I guess that makes me British then!

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That just down right pisses me off. Yes, it was a good game. But definitely NOT one of the best games ever. This is why I despise MTV with the fire of a thousand suns (as my cousin would say).

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Brits have page 3 in the Sun!!!

The only brits who complain about boobies are the really old peep, but nobody listens to them anyway.

Yes we love em, we made the carry on films after all.

/me salutes boobs

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  do her}
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  do other babe}
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Ever think that the Brits SHOULD be more offended, and really have become a bit too blase'?

Not really making an argument one way or the other - just playing Devil's advocate to get people to try to look at things from the other side of the fence, as every responsible person should...

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

...it "pisses you off" I think it's one of the best games? Um, ok, good luck with that anger management.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1 & 2 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Honestly, would you rather let your kids see a guy get his head blown off with blood gushing out, or a boob for only .5 seconds?

Also people often blame violence as a causality for kids to create more violence. So if a kid saw a boob, what exactly is the negative causality caused by that?

The US is afraid of boobs because they were settled by the kinds of people in England who are afraid of boobs - Puritains (not meant to be complete fact).
I really don't care about the boob, the problem is that it was TOTALLY inappropriate for the time and place. MTV should NEVER EVER be able to have anything at all to do with the Superbowl ever again.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right." -Isaac Asimov

Can't I have my kid not see both? Its called parenting. Look into it.

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

French television ads for soap and cosmetics feature top-naked women all the time. Hell I even remember a few bus stop style posters with nothing but boobies through a soft filter and a bottle of Nivea.

I guess different countries just have different standards.

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Theoretically: a more relaxed attitude towards sex and sexual conduct at an age where they should not be seeing or dealing with that sort of thing, leading to kids having sex earlier and earlier, leading to (due to the stupidity of kids) more unwanted pregnancies (I never say unwanted babies - I am adopted; NO child is unwanted), which leads to more abortions, which leads to a higher rate of women who can't get pregnant when they actually want to, due to the damaging effects of abortion. And that's not even including STD possibilities.

Well, you asked.

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

The boobie is a beautiful thing! Embrace the boobie!!!!

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It's just a huge conspiracy. You see, we British people are well aware of our reputation as cynical, tight-fisted, sarcastic and generally conservative gits. So about a decade ago there was a newsletter that went around to every house in Great Britain informing the household that if they enjoyed the moral decay of public television they'd get cheaper pie.

Now, everyone loves pie, so we were all happy to oblige.

I missed that part of the Superbowl. In reality, complain all you want about the gore on American TV, because it's completely baseless. Watch Desperado sometime on TNT, and they'll have edited out as much of the blood as is possible. The channels that do show stuff like that (and more) - HBO, Showtimes, Cinemax - are premium, and not available to just everyone.

Myself, I'm not offended by the exposed breast. It appears to have been a genuine mistake. It more offends me that such talentless artists whose sole appeal is sex are allowed on the field.

Oh, and this:


There was never a more blatant attempt to make a profit off of a simple mistake than this.

As for the stigma surrounding the breast, it's pretty much rooted in sexual affiliations with the breast and, more specifically, rooted in religious origins.

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The problem is, it wasn't a simple mistake. Janet admitted as much, as did her publisher. Justin is lying and apologizing to save face, but all reports are that he was in on it...

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

Er? Link?

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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
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Working on it..honestly. It's quite a problem for me to look at the world through constantly bitter eyes.

[Ok. I'm in error. I had misread your previous posts. I'm not mad at you. It definitely was a good game but I've seen better games. That's just IMHO. I'm sorry if I seemed offensive. What does make me mad is people making mountains out of mole hills, case in point, the whole Super Bowl "show"]
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[This message has been edited by Gandalf1120 (edited February 09, 2004).]

Another case of American exceptionalism? There are tons of cases where if you go by Western cultural standards, the US is very different. *shrug*

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/02/superbowl.jackson/index.html

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

Um... Joren, I dont agree with you.

I dont agree that the half-time show was the best place to try the obvious publicity stunt. America has been getting more lax about the regulating the airwaves, mainly because those standards were put into place a long time ago and have become outdated.

I do believe that if the government wants to regulate television and radio, let them regulate the basic channel stations like ABC and NBC. However, if someone subscribes to a cable provider, that in effect is paying a premium for more programming options. I dont believe cable television should be held to the same standards as basic channels. If someone has a problem with what is shown on cable, just like premium channels, they have the option to cancel service, or many TVs now have the ability to block out certain channels.

The woman in TN deserves to be thrown in jail for bringing a case like this.

....and I'm tired of the Moral Majority, Christian Coalition, and all those other 'morally upstanding' groups that believe that everything they stand for is right and everyone else is a product of a demoralized degrading society. They're making the biggest fuss over this.

I'm sorry if your kids saw a boob. Did you cover their eyes during birth, when they take a bath, change clothes, go to the bathroom, and breast feed?

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please

also, saw this from Michael Powell (Colin's son, if I'm not mistaken):



I dont think it's a question of decency. It was a body part. Just like a nude statue or portrait, but no one seems to say a thing about the half naked Lady Liberty on the Capitol Dome.

I'm sorry if my standards arent the same as everyone elses and they are offended, but I'm not changing my standards to conform. That would be like having (not meant in a racist/sexist way, just an analogy so go with it) all white people wear burkas because black people are offended by white people's skin tone. Ridiculous.

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please

hehehe

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  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

Like I said, it was an honest mistake.

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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it || The Link of the Dead

Fine, you are free to disagree. But then again, if parents cared more about being parents, I think we would have a much better world to live in.

Look, enough of devil's advocate, here is what I feel.

The major networks, regardless of how you feel, have for the most part a decent reputation for keeping stuff relatively clean. Good parent's know the shows the shows their kids can and cannot watch. That, and the Superbowl is supposed to be one of those sporting events where the whole family can gather to watch, and usually does.

Now, something that was considered a safe haven for people who actually care about raising their kids, and wanting to pass their beliefs down to their children had a safe haven ripped away.

If you are failing to grasp this, let me put the shoe on the other foot - if you were watching the Playboy channel, or Spice, or something late night on Cinemax, and part of your program was interruped by "The Smurfs", you would be pissed, and don't deny it. It flies in the face of what you were expecting. Its called "the shoe being on the other foot" and many of you guys need to learn to do that.

Regardless of your feelings of Christian Coalition (hey, I got issues with them too, and I am Christian), or the moral Right, they have every right to have their say as you do, and every right to find sanctuary in programs they usually do, such as the Superbowl.

And that's how I feel. It was the wrong place and time for that stunt. It's not like people are telling a normally raunchy program to clean up its act Schming. It's more like they are outraged, asking "what the hell happened?" And just because you personally don't find anything wrong with it, does not mean the people who did should be ignored.

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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

Mmmm... boobs....

I thought I was American, but apparently I'm a limey.

A couple of problems.

1) a Bustier is usually a 1 piece. the rip was too clean for an accident.

2) She was not wearing a red bustier. Take a claser look - the red was frills attached to the costume, NOT a bustier like the spokesman said.

Ah well, nothing I will lose sleep over, and honestly not worth fighting over.

My gosh, did I just say that on Massassi?

Did I just break some cardinal rule or something?


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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

Joren, I think we actually do agree, just I read your thing earlier wrong.

This kind of stuff doesnt belong on basic channels, ABC,NBC, and the like, nor does it belong on something like the Superbowl where 90% of Americans watch it.

I have no problem with it being on at night on cable stations (not premium stations mind you), but I do agree that basic cable should be regulated, at least during primetime AND even moreso when you have such a large viewing audience of different age groups.

Now, if the superbowl was aired on TNT... people pay extra to get TNT. It's their choice.

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Ive been trying to find this pic for hours.. gah. It was posted on fark a week or so ago.. Bah. Well.. some radio station got ahold of the actual thing that was pulled off. It had clips, and just a bit of lace glued to the top. It was obviously ready to be pulled off in its entiredty (sp?)

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Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

But why?

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Because he wants it... its his precious.

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I guess it's too far-fetched to think, you know, the bousteir was made so that it rips away cleanly? And do you have a picture I can see?

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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it || The Link of the Dead

Plus...you know...she was wearing a nipple cover....people generally wear them when Mr Breast is coming out to play.

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1 & 2 | Gonkmeg
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