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How can our nation support this man and his administration? We went from.. what, a 500 billion dollar surplus to a 7 trillion dollar defecit, and rising? This man wants to send people to space? This man wants to rebuild a foreign nation? This man wants to REDUCE TAXES?

Maybe you increase the economies productivity, but you certainly don't help the government when you have negative seven trillion dollars...

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But I still try to run on.
You know I still try to run on. But it's all or none.

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Hey man, there may be money beside the WMDs, so cross your fingers!

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TI-MAH!

Whatever....

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ROFL

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Fantastically run nation - now you can see why I like England?

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[This message has been edited by Gee_4ce (edited February 18, 2004).]

No, you see, if we find WMD, we don't tell anyone. And then we jurry rig them to not work, and then sell them on the black market. Insta$$$

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If he were raising them, there'd be somebody else to complain about that.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

No. The national debt didn't go from $500 billion for $7 trillion since Bush became president. Get your fact straight.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

That's a 7 trillion dollar national debt, not budget deficit. The national debt has been rising since before you were born, even during many years in which there were budget surpluses.

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I voted for him, but he has repeatedly pissed me off.

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The amnesty deal has cost him much points with me.


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Chances are I won't vote for him this time around. The oil prices have gone through the roof because the oil business is funding his campaign, my tax return this year dropped over $300 (and dropped over $600 since he took office) while making the same amount, and I think the guy is getting dumber.

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Also, depending on the state of the economy, budget deficit is not necessarily a bad thing. But I dont really know enough about the current state of the US economy to comment.

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Oil prices fluctuate. National debt increases. Yes, Bush makes some really bad decisions, but guess what so have all the other presidents, and a lot of the things people yell at Bush for Clinton did /exactly/ the same just he wasn't as up-front about them. Don't give the president more credit than he is due, despite popular belief he is not the single most powerful, making every decision, supreme seat of ruling that he is often made out to be. If you want to talk economy, look at Alan Greenspan, he has a much greater direct influence on that. If you want to talk oil look at like exxon or opec for qod's sake, president Bush doesn't precisely have a little spigot in his office controlling oil-flow and prices.

And frankly he's going to get my vote, unless any of the other candidates wind up actually making some sort of effort to prove that they have any sort of competence coherence or idea of what they want to are going to and can in fact do.

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Yeah, we went from a $200 billion plus surplus to a $350 billion plus deficit in the three years of Bush's administration. Furthermore, the deficit is caused by inflated discretionary spending and a drastic decrease in tax revenue due primarily to tax cuts.

If for no other reason I'd vote against Bush because of his fiscal madness.

[This message has been edited by Ictus (edited February 18, 2004).]

The government can exist in debt. Not that that's necessarily a good thing.

Better him than Kerry. I've been doing alot of research into his past and such. The man disgusts me, especially in regards to vietnam.

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Ω of 14

Wahh Wahh Waah

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

I'm just a disinterested Canadian here, but weren't the main reasons for the crumbling economy the popping of the Internet bubble and 9-11? Not exactly things anyone can do much about, even the President...

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"Well, it could be worse -- it could be windy!" -popular Canadian saying.

Complaining about tax cuts? That's a new one.

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Yes.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Krig: Yes, but we're talking about the deficit, to which the sucky economy is only marginally related. Bush's irresponsible domestic and international spending combined with idiotic tax cuts do not a healthy budget make.

oS: Share with the class. Passive-Aggressives Anonymous is here to help.

Que "Bush planned that attack as an excuse for bad things to happen during his presidnency" wack jobs.

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Ehhh... Bush isn't exactly an angel either when it comes to the 'past' department.

I'm curious though, what's so bad about Kerry's past, especially in regards to Vietnam?

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IMO, anyone can come who is not Bush.

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Thats why i look like a pie.
With banana cream."

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Thank you Ubuu and Tera111, for those refreshingly insightful and mature comments.

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[This message has been edited by Dormouse (edited February 19, 2004).]

Um...Did I have a comment?

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Only by the very loosest definition of the word..

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Actually I made a noise in response to Brads outcry.

Any ways, Brad gets all defensive and emtional when it comes to people bashing his conservative brothers. Nothing but a reminder to chill.

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

[This message has been edited by Ubuu (edited February 19, 2004).]

Somehow, you were able to add your own opinion to this discussion while subtracting for its quality. How strange.

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I didn't do ****. If you ignore it, the post still has its quality.

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Gee, oS, I never picked you as a bleeding heart liberal that would support a guy who scrimped on his national service to avoid vietnam over a guy who did two tours of duty, earning 3 purple hearts. Make love not war!

I definitely won't be voting for Bush. His economical and financial idiocy aside, I think the Patriot Act and his stupid $1.5 billion dollar "pro-marriage" legislation should be sufficient evidence as to why he doesn't belong in the oval office.

Of course, the fact that he put Ashcroft as Attorney General is enough to make me vote against him.

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I do tend to agree with you Wolfy, but to re-state, what other remotely viable alternative candidates are there..

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I agree Wolfy.

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03

Well, we're sick of being bashed and trashed just for being conservative.


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You, sir, are horribly misinformed. The state of the economy is directly related to how much tax "revenue" the government brings in. When people stop making money, the government stops making money.

I agree that the patriot act and every single one of his governmental agency creations are sheer lunacy. He has gone against virtually every Republican philosophy. Republicans believe in cutting taxes and cutting spending. His enormous governmental programs and hand-outs drive me up the wall. We should be trimming the government to the absolute minimum, not increasing it. So yes, his decisions to not only cut taxes, but also increase government spending are way out there. I don't think the answer is to raise taxes back, I think the answer is to cut the spending and cut all the unneeded government programs.

Well, i certainly wouldnt vote for him. IMO, keeping warmongers out of that certain white building is a smart thing to do.

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Thats why i look like a pie.
With banana cream."

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Ding ding ding.
I'm hoping he'll do that in his second term given he won't need to worry about re-election. Right not he's making all of these absurd concessions to democrats. We really need to cut the programs as well as the taxes, and I'm hoping he does that next.

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Ω of 14

I'm not sure I'm going to vote for Bush anymore. If Edwards becomes Kerry's running mate, then I'll vote democrat. But of course, that will mean nothing in this super-conservative fascist state of Utah.

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Checksum: I thought about it, I guess I'm striving for my own personal ideals. I'll just project those ideals onto Jesus and say "I'm trying to be like Jesus" so that I won't have to listen to you banter endlessly about me worshipping a false god or some such.

The Last True Evil: Ironically, that's very Christian of you.

No matter what your opinions are, MY GOD MAN, how do you take care of a $7,000,000,000,000 national debt?
The US is a very strong country with so much to offer as far as the economy (and other countries economies) is concerned, but how do you get rid of a debt like that? It will take many presidential terms with each and every succeeding president on board with a very strong program.
And a very strong program means people are going to be pissed off at all the cuts AND the tax increases (sorry Brian et al, you HAVE to increase taxes to get out of something like that).

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