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I was 2 feet away from the Jedi Knight SOURCE CODE today.
2004-02-26, 2:42 PM #1
At our high school, we had a little thing called "Career Day". Basically, there are a bunch of booths with representitives from different careers. Over at the Video Game Design booth was someone named Bret Mogilefsky.

What first caught my eye was that he was holding an unopend box of Grim Fandango. I told him it was a good game, and he said, "Yes, I helped develop it." Apparently, he also worked on Jedi Knight. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

He came into the project about half way through and his job was to work on the toolkit for making animations, levels, ect. He knew all about how the rendering engine works. He said he helped with improving the portal rendering system and culling non-visible gemometry. He knew everything.

Naturally, I started spewing non-sensical babble about mats, drynamic lights, COGs, and surface flags. I got all tingly and goosbumps poped up on the back of my neck.

Then I asked for the source code. I was joking, but he still said "Sorry, can't do that" Then he said, "But it's on my laptop which is sitting right over there."

I almost exploded.

To make my condition worse, he then told me that he was just at a barbeque with Justin Chin.

I almost went insane...

[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited February 26, 2004).]
2004-02-26, 2:43 PM #2
[http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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2004-02-26, 2:45 PM #3
lucky sack of poo

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2004-02-26, 2:45 PM #4
AND YOU DIDN'T GRAB IT AND RUN!?

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2004-02-26, 2:46 PM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
...Naturally, I started spewing non-sensical babble about mats, drynamic lights, COGs, and surface flags....</font>


Did I get mentioned? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]


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2004-02-26, 2:48 PM #6
I actually almost did... GBK and COG are synonomus. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]
2004-02-26, 2:49 PM #7
Almost? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-02-26, 2:51 PM #8
I mentioned Massassi, but I think he's lost touch with the PC market, as he now works for Sony and works on the Play Station Series.

He also beta-tested X-wing and Tie Fighter.
2004-02-26, 2:54 PM #9
Wow, that's almost as exciting as meeting the cousin of the guy who invented the pet rock.

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2004-02-26, 2:55 PM #10
....steady GBK.

Justin Chin needs to ride back into LEC on a white horse and clean out the dead weight.

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2004-02-26, 3:09 PM #11
So uh... how much did you offer him?

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2004-02-26, 3:31 PM #12
As a Massassian, you are obligated to gather the source code at all costs.

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2004-02-26, 3:34 PM #13
His wife does teach at my school, so I can always hold her hostage.
2004-02-26, 3:37 PM #14
You should send him to these forums via a friendly message through his wife. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-02-26, 3:42 PM #15
That isn't a bad idea, and I'm know almost everyone would want to talk to a JK developer.

If that did ever happen, don't rant on how poorly the jk engine is stuctured...
2004-02-26, 3:47 PM #16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
....If that did ever happen, don't rant on how poorly the jk engine is stuctured...</font>


Are you kidding? Id fall to my knees and worship the man!!

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2004-02-26, 4:16 PM #17
Should have stolen the laptop.

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2004-02-26, 4:27 PM #18
Not sure whether I would have grabbed that and done a runner or not. Probably depend on how I felt when I got out of bed in the morning.

At any rate, when you send him around here, we'll have to erase all evidence of this threads existence or he'll never trust us again.
2004-02-26, 4:58 PM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Axis:
AND YOU DIDN'T GRAB IT AND RUN!?

</font>


Dude. Teh CODE was RIGHT THERE. 2 feet. This man was obviously not expecting anything. GRAB LAPTOP. RUN. FAST. HOME. COPY. PASTE. UPLOAD. MASSASSI.

It was that simple!

This should have been set up with the Massassi Brute Squad.

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2004-02-26, 5:09 PM #20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DSettahr:
You should send him to these forums via a friendly message through his wife. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

</font>


Yessssh... Friendly... cough. Cough.

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2004-02-26, 5:22 PM #21
i'm so jealous ;D

seriously, you should've asked him to drop by the forums and give us a post!
(remember when the guy from Raven was posting about JO? i forget which guy it was =/)

it is your duty as a massassian to either get the JK source or get this man on the forums [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-02-26, 5:40 PM #22
I believe his name was Kenn Hoekstra.
2004-02-26, 6:20 PM #23
The Sith engine is a work of art, in my opinion. I would love to talk to the developers - not with what the sith engine is, but what it could have been. There's a lot of untapped potential there - nowadays it's not much, but it'd be a fun little chat.
2004-02-26, 6:25 PM #24
I think I speak for everyone when I say;

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2004-02-26, 6:29 PM #25
[http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

That's awesome, but still no source code [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

[http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif]

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2004-02-26, 7:01 PM #26
Is this the guy who was teasing you, Mystic? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,1675/
2004-02-26, 8:41 PM #27
So close yet so far

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2004-02-26, 9:10 PM #28
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
At our high school, we had a little thing called "Career Day". Basically, there are a bunch of booths with representitives from different careers. Over at the Video Game Design booth was someone named Bret Mogilefsky.</font>


Damnit, why didn't they ever have that at MY school? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-02-27, 1:47 AM #29
Looks like it's time to mobilize the Massassi Covert Ops.

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2004-02-27, 4:26 AM #30
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by UGG:
Is this the guy who was teasing you, Mystic? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,1675/
</font>


Yes, that's that guy... he dosn't have a beard anymore though. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
2004-02-27, 4:35 AM #31
That's so awesome.

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2004-02-27, 10:15 AM #32
You should've taken it and run. You probably could get away easily, but once you went back to school the next day you'd be in a wee bit of trouble.

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2004-02-27, 1:23 PM #33
Wait, why would he have source code from a 7 year old game on his laptop?

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2004-02-27, 1:27 PM #34
Because it's JK, man! If you had the source code, you'd carry it around everywhere you went, too!

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2004-02-27, 1:30 PM #35
Maybe then someone can fix the godawful lighting system! Yay!

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2004-02-27, 1:32 PM #36
Because he's the man, obviously

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2004-02-27, 1:45 PM #37
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
He said he helped with improving the portal rendering system and culling non-visible gemometry. He knew everything.</font>


Can you tell me what he told you? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
2004-02-27, 1:52 PM #38
Basically he was hired to write tools for making the game. The rendering engine was shared between the game and the toolkit he was developing. Being a programmer, he was able to optimize some of the rendering code and send it back to the other developers. He was able to make it run more efficiently by only rendering what was needed to be viewed when the walkplayer was in a certain sector.
2004-02-27, 1:54 PM #39
I think I read an article by him once.
2004-02-27, 1:57 PM #40
How many people would seriously be interested in talking to him? Remember, JK was not his primary accomplishment as he was the lead programmer for Grim Fandango. I think he's pissed off at my school though because somebody stole the Dance Dance Revolution game that he was showcasing.
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