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I got my Yellow Sash in Kung Fu!
2004-03-05, 3:38 PM #1
Weeehee! Well the topic says it all. I take kung fu, and I just got my yellow sash *big grin*

typical sash levels in kung fu go up
White
Yellow
Orange
Green
Blue
Brown
Black

so it looks like im a far away away which I am! but in my academy we have a novice prepatory "white sash" class and then this crazy Red sash you get, which is somewhere between white and yellow, so its taken me extra long but my academy is really hard! but i am SOO Happy. it feels awesome to know you've worked your butt off at something, and when you get a reward you get to strut it around on your hips all the time! hehehe

sorry if this was a total bore i thought i'd share [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] Any of you take any forms of martial arts? for how long/what sash?

*giggles*

i also read somewhere that if youre a black sash (belt if you wanna call it that [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]) in any martial arts, and you defend yourself against someone attacking you, that's considered self defense with a lethal weapon. what the fark?! therefore technically, youre suspect to starting the fight, and there would be a big huge case if the guy who attacked YOU decided to sue and lie his pants off and say YOU did it. so i think i might just go up to brown and quit. At the moment im 16 and i've been in kung fu for pretty much a year so i have ...what..7-8 more years to go till im brown and kickin brown-sashlevel arse?

i think that rules pretty dumb, considering anyone that has the patience and discipline to have a black sash (like a cop has a gun) shouldn't be like a suspect in a brawl or whatever. Obviously if youre black sash and you want to go around beating up, you'd be doing it more often, so i dont get why they dont take your word for your word. I get that obviously a little investigation needs to take place in any little fight or big fight but self defense with lethal weapon!?

anyhoo! discuss, applaud (hehe my new sash sillies!), grin (with me) whatever [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] im just so happy!

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2004-03-05, 3:54 PM #2
Congrats, Wolvie.

Still, I'm glad I go to a kung fu school with no rankings or uniforms, just street clothes and a pecking order. It's so laid back and realistic, there's nothing better to teach you how to actually fight.
2004-03-05, 3:55 PM #3
good deal. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] /me is proud

I've not the patience to take Kung Fu. Too much serious mental training involved.

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2004-03-05, 3:57 PM #4
we do learn how to actually fight. first thing they teach you is how to throw a proper punch, nona those chops n strikes.

the novice starts without uniform, jus sweat clothes, but after that we need sashes because we have multi-sash classes and the sifu needs to know what sash you are so he knows what skill drill he can set for you to practice [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] ours isn't laid back. the tradition list is so frippin long

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2004-03-05, 3:59 PM #5
/me applauds Wolvie
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I'm currently training in ju-jutsu. My offical ranking is green belt, 2 tabs, but I've been training at a blue/brown level for months now. I just havn't been graded because my sensai is either out of the country doing demonstrations, or something to that nature. -_-

I've never heard of that thing with being a black belt... Sounds pretty stupid. But don't quit when you hit brown. It'd be all the more rewarding to you to achieve the black, regurdless of whatever law there may be about being a "lethal weapon."

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2004-03-05, 4:02 PM #6
wow thats cool! whats like jujitsu like? like y'know how judo is throwing people:Pand karates all about those damn chops. i dont know much about it!

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2004-03-05, 4:10 PM #7
Good job!

Purple belt in Kenpo myself

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2004-03-05, 4:13 PM #8
Martial Arts = useless in a real fight
2004-03-05, 4:16 PM #9
Hahahahaha!

Duke, you are funny.

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2004-03-05, 4:17 PM #10
its really not :P i got attacked by a b****y girl from this catholic school's rugby team girl because frankly shes huge adn i tackled her repeatedly and she didnt like that, so after the game shemale came to shove me around and its quite easy to walk away from someone when you can give them a very deadly charlie horse [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-03-05, 4:25 PM #11
He is partially right. One, two and its over. I mean, its not really a fight when you take the person down with three hits, right?

I'd rather take Kendo and get a little sword action, but I do realize you can't exactly carry a sword everywhere, even a katana [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-03-05, 4:36 PM #12
Martial Arts isn't meant to teach you EXACT moves to use on someone. Because that's impossible for a fight to go exactly your way. You mix and match. It quickens your reaction speed, and gets you eady for anything.

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2004-03-05, 4:37 PM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wolvie17:
wow thats cool! whats like jujitsu like? like y'know how judo is throwing people:Pand karates all about those damn chops. i dont know much about it!

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Throws, holds, strikes, rolls, flips, spins, energy attacks... Okay, maybe not the last 3, but yeah. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]
It's the samurai art form. I suppose if you've seen the film, The Last Samurai, that'd give you an decent of what it was/is.
We do a lot of stuff with swords and staffs, as well as ropes, chains, knives, and pretty much anything that is or could be used as a weapon. We've even done a fair bit of stuff with disarming and the correct use of guns. Oh so Steven Segal.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-03-05, 4:38 PM #14
we do a lot of weapons in kung fu.

staff, double daggers, that thing cops carry dont know the names off, broad swords and sais, and a buncha other stuff. its very spread, self defense, offense, weapons, meditation and nerve spots like pressure zones but worse where you literally get paralized for like 5-10 minutes, or more even (havent ever learned that:P)

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2004-03-05, 5:13 PM #15
I want to learn Kendo as well. Kendo with some fencing included. A little bit of both hemispheres.

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2004-03-05, 5:34 PM #16
When you learn how to do the cool Kung-Fu moves like in Crouching Tiger, make a video, that would be cool.

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2004-03-05, 5:36 PM #17
Sweet, just dont kick my *** . [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-03-05, 5:45 PM #18
Snifty Wolvie.

I use to take Shotokan over a year ago, but I lost contact with my sensai. I obtained orange before that though. And I've heard about the black belts being considered a weapon deal.

I hope I'll be able to continue something like it one day.

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2004-03-05, 6:12 PM #19
I'm going into Judo soon. It's the best kind of martial arts for those going into law enforcement(which I am) and it looks really good on officer records in the military(which I'm also going into). But it goes without saying that Judo would be a last resort, seeing as how I would have a gun.

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2004-03-05, 6:12 PM #20
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Kendo sounds interesting. I've seen it done and it vaguely resembles lightsaber fighting. (double-handed grip, left hand on bottom, right hand on top)




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2004-03-05, 6:14 PM #21
Duke, you idiot, you're so stupid...

No, seriously. I wasted five years on Aikido, I can tell you what's fake. If you think actual kung fu or karate is useless, then you need to go die. Seriously, pick a fight with a grandmaster or something.

Edit: And Pagewizard, to adequately prepare yourself against a total stranger with a sword, you need to know I'd say four styles. A soft one-handed, a hard one-handed, a soft two-handed, and a hard two-handed.

Otherwise you just can't deal with everything thrown at you. My recommendations are Chinese swordplay, gladatorial, and kendo/something Japanese. I don't know about a soft two-handed art, I had to pretty well fabricate one.

There's a lot of reasons for this, but it'd take a ridiculous amount of space to explain here. Just take my advice, k? :P

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2004-03-05, 8:27 PM #22
I'm planning on learning some form of martial arts eventually - though I haven't decided which yet. And also, I can't take off my shoes due to a muscle problem, so I have to find a class where they let you keep your shoes on, which limits my choices.

I've done some fencing and archery when I was little. I seem to have natural talent with the bow, and I remember being pretty good at the fencing as well - but then I'd probably get my arse kicked today. It's been too long. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-03-05, 8:43 PM #23
Awesome. I only got my black sash, though thats the first one at my current school. It takes about 6-8 months to reach that, and I got it in 3 and a half months. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Black
Black 2
Blue
Blue 2
Green
Green 2
Red

I use to take Wing Tsun at an older school but had to quit after a year and a half due to a falling out with my instructor.

And the "registar hands as a lethal weapon" is a load of crap, an urban legend. No such thing exists, because not every school has the black belt as the final belt. Plus in Kung Fu schools, it's a sash, and some have the black sash earlier on.

But Wolvie, what style of Kung Fu is it you practice?

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2004-03-05, 8:44 PM #24
its VERY strange on my school, they all do Karate, Jujitsu, Judo, Kong Fu. But when two children fight they do:
AYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!
*bang* *smash* *TAKE THAT* *bangbangbang* *tackle*

that is not what i call martial arts [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif], BTW i do Judo. And i allready throwed someone of the second class on the ground!!! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]yahoo [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-03-05, 8:48 PM #25
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raoul Duke:
Martial Arts = useless in a real fight</font>


Tell that to someone who practices Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Judo before they choke you out.

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2004-03-05, 8:56 PM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Checksum:
Duke, you idiot, you're so stupid...

No, seriously. I wasted five years on Aikido, I can tell you what's fake. If you think actual kung fu or karate is useless, then you need to go die. Seriously, pick a fight with a grandmaster or something.

Edit: And Pagewizard, to adequately prepare yourself against a total stranger with a sword, you need to know I'd say four styles. A soft one-handed, a hard one-handed, a soft two-handed, and a hard two-handed.

Otherwise you just can't deal with everything thrown at you. My recommendations are Chinese swordplay, gladatorial, and kendo/something Japanese. I don't know about a soft two-handed art, I had to pretty well fabricate one.

There's a lot of reasons for this, but it'd take a ridiculous amount of space to explain here. Just take my advice, k? :P

[This message has been edited by Checksum (edited March 05, 2004).]
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1.) Next time don't post when your having your period.

2.) I doubt you've ever been in a real fight so don't act like you know what you are talking about.
2004-03-05, 9:03 PM #27
Raoul Duke, I've been in a real fight. It works.

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2004-03-05, 9:05 PM #28
I've wanted to get into martial arts for several reasons, of which defending myself isn't the biggest. No one picks a fight with me. Not because I look tough or anything like that, I guess I'm just not very noticeable. Seriously, I've been in my share of situations where I could have gotten my *** kicked, and they never touched me.

I'd get into martial arts this instant if I didn't have osteoporosis.

Congratulations, Wolvie.

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2004-03-05, 9:07 PM #29
Congrats, Wolvie [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-03-05, 9:22 PM #30
Hey, that is so cool. Congrats. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

I wish I wouldn't be so lazy and start to learn some martial arts. But meh [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-03-05, 10:33 PM #31
Congrats, Wolvie!

I've been studying Jeet Kune Do for the past few years. And having been in two situations where knowing how to stay calm and how to see anatomy lines saved my skin, I think Duke should rethink his statement about martial arts being useless in a real fight.

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2004-03-06, 12:50 AM #32
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raoul Duke:
Martial Arts = useless against the level headed person who simply shoots you.</font>


Fixed [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

But anyhow, I did a bit of Tai Kwondo (sp?) and Judo a long time ago, and didn't find it to my liking, pretty dull stuff... i'd rather train my mind than jump around all day learning how to fight, when everybody knows cold hearted revenge is better than self defence anyway.

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2004-03-06, 1:08 AM #33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> and nerve spots like pressure zones but worse where you literally get paralized for like 5-10 minutes, or more even (havent ever learned that:P)
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Wooah. I've seen that in 80s Hong Kong films, but I wasn't sure whether it was..like..real or not. How does it work? Is it hard to do? I imagine it works similar to acupuncture..

I've been doing Tae kwon do for a while, for fitness. We do do some self defense but I'm not really all that interested in that; it's mostly for the little kids to learn what to do when some big person grabs you (and I'm always the big person they use as a target, heh). We do a LOT of kicking. I went to a competition the other week, and it was more like kickboxing than I expected. I'm going for my green stripe soon; the way it works in tae kwon do is:
white belt
yellow stripe
yellow belt
green stripe
green belt
blue stripe
blue belt
red stripe
red belt
black stripe
black belt

There's twice as many belts as other martial arts, and you train for three months for each belt. There's less of a gap between the grades, I guess, then.

Also martial arts isn't about learning how to knock someone out instantly;
If you get into a fight, you run away. If you can, you always run away. If you don't, and fight when you could have avoided it otherwise, you are not a good martial artist, and if I were your grandmaster/sensei/tutor, I would expel you.
Of course, if you HAVE to fight you would use minimal force, and the pressure zone thing that Wolvie was talking about sounds fantastic for just that!
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2004-03-06, 1:27 AM #34
My friends stepdad is a 9th dan in some martial art... apparently he knows something called a heart punch, which is a one hit kill. My friend was drunk, so verification would be nice.

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2004-03-06, 1:41 AM #35
A spanish friend of mine was a black belt in Kunkg Fu, 1st Dan (from what I remember, he would've had to leave spain to get his next two Dans) - he taught me how to take a thrown punch (straight on), and twist it around - I wish I could remeber the sequence....

...he also taught me to strengthen my forearems for blocking. He was a very cool guy.

Oh, and he showed us a video of a street performance his (Dojo, Clan, Group...delete as applicapble) did, where they snapped an inch and a half thick bamboo staff on his side, just above his hip - he then showed me the massive black bruise he had - put me right off! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

congrats to Wolvie - hopefully you'll be hitting somebody else in the side with a massive bamboo staff!!

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2004-03-06, 4:33 AM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Septic Yogurt:
My friends stepdad is a 9th dan in some martial art... apparently he knows something called a heart punch, which is a one hit kill. My friend was drunk, so verification would be nice.

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Yeah. It's called a really hard punch to the temple.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Congrats Wolfay!

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2004-03-06, 5:19 AM #37
Did judo for about 7 years but I haven't done any for about a 1½ years now, I hope to get back into it at uni. I kinda got tired and annoyed with gradings and stopped going to them, studying judo more for the fun of it than to get a differently coloured belt.
As for the use of judo in a fight? It might be good if it's one on one, but even then you don't get taught to block punches or kicks, judo is all about throwing someone then incapacitating the person in someway on the ground. If you get attacked by more than one person, run if you can and never ever grapple! i ended up in a fight a while ago where I ended up tackling one guy to the ground, it was no use though, cos the other guy took to kicking me in the head and neck.
I tried a bit of ju-jitsu once though, and that would be definitely a much better choice for self defense, judo is more of a wrestling sport.

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2004-03-06, 5:54 AM #38
I think a heart punch is a really hard punch to the heart. Just a guess?

Ok, it's not totally useless but for kids that take up martial arts to avoid getting picked on I don't think it will do much.

"If you get into a fight, you run away. If you can, you always run away. If you don't, and fight when you could have avoided it otherwise, you are not a good martial artist, and if I were your grandmaster/sensei/tutor, I would expel you.
Of course, if you HAVE to fight you would use minimal force, and the pressure zone thing that Wolvie was talking about sounds fantastic for just that! "

And this is why. It has too much of a wimpy approach. I've seen a black belt kid cry his eyes out as an average kid held him in a headlock and punched him in the face repeatly because the black belt kid was too scared to fight.

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2004-03-06, 6:07 AM #39
I have always understood that martial arts isn't about kicking someones arse, but about self-defense.

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2004-03-06, 10:02 AM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Martyn:
A spanish friend of mine was a black belt in Kunkg Fu, 1st Dan (from what I remember, he would've had to leave spain to get his next two Dans)...</font>


Dan is Japanese, not Chinese.

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