http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3514504.stm

According to this survey, the majority of Iraqis feel that their lives have improved since before the war. Also, the majority feel that foreign military powers should stay until a new government is in place or security is restored, while only 15% feel they should leave immediately.

Paints quite a different picture than some would want you to see.

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While I agree that the lives of the Iraqi people will be bettered once this whole ordeal is completed, I'm still opposed to the reasoning for going. I would've supported Bush had he said, "Dammit, we're going to get rid of that b*stard. He's done nothing but wrong to the world since he forced his way into power, and it's time to make him pay." But instead, we got lied to. So even though it *should* end well, I'll still be voting against Bush in November.

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I'm sure the Zionists and Bush's Oil Mafia manipulated the results. The truth is that Iraqis actually loved Saddam, they all hate the US, and all very much want us to leave immediately. I know all this despite having never been to Iraq.

They did not love saddam they feared him. There only saying that cause they don't like the UN's new rules. They liked the times when they could loot saddams palaces. Heck they even said. "Thank you bush"

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I don't know what you're talking about. Arabs hate America 'cause we're imperialists and we want to control their oil. They didn't hate Saddam. They respected him. I don't know why people complain about him torturing and murdering his people. That's a part of Arab culture.

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Pal I saw when they pulled the statue down live. Thanks to home schooling.No where not imperialist if we where iraq would be added to the union by now.

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Way to fall for the Zionist propaganda. That was very obviously shot in a Pentagon studio for our benefit.

Sine are you an arab? it sounds like your pretty loyal to saddam. No offense just asking?

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Hahaha!



I agree with Yecti though, I'll still be voting against Bush.

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No, I'm an American who's ashamed at the way my unelected "President" is going around the world and spreading "freedom" to poor third-world countries. If Bush knew anything about Arab culture, he'd know that freedom is a Western ideal and it can't work in Iraq.

Sine, do you have any appointments for making manbabies in say, middle of August? I know you're booked quite often...

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I don't know about you, but I found Sine's comments hilarious, in a dry satirical kind of way

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A guy in my neighborhood that served in Iraq came home the other day. You can talk to nearly any US soldier that served in Iraq, and they'll tell you they are fighting for a good cause and are willing to lay down their lives to bring freedom to Iraq.

They'll also tell you that from the beginning, most Iraqis have appreciated the US soldiers and what they have been doing.

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Casper - look up the word "sarcasm" - then you will understand what Sine is saying.

Lol Sine, that was great.

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Hey, Sine, why aren't you wearing a towel around your head, huh? Go off and beat some women, you anti-Christian.

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Pure-farking-gold.


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Bait + hook = reeled in catch by Sine.

70% of statistics are wrong.

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Nobody's saying that your statistic is right.

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Sine Nomen, you never cease to amaze me with your deductive skills. I too am ashamed of how our "President-select" unilaterally took his multinational force into Iraq to unseat an extremely popular and nearly unanimously elected leader. I'm disgusted by his lieing to the American people especially when he reduced himself to repeating those that the previous administration (a far more honorable and legitimate one, of course) and the United Nations had been telling us and the world for years before Bush Jr. was appointed by the Supreme Court. It is so sickening that he used 9/11 as a photo opportunity to "read" to those kids. I bet he was just repeating the story as heard through an earpiece. Rove on the other end, of course. Let's not even talk about the economy which was begining to falter before Bush ever showed up. Just the possiblity that he would become President was enough to ruin it.

I'm glad to know that there is someone I see eye to eye with here.

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Agreed

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I will remember you said that if you ever then turn around and try to use statistics to prove a point of yours.

Just giving you the heads up.

*Evil Grin*

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I will remember you said that if you ever then turn around and try to use statistics to prove a point of yours.

Just giving you the heads up.

*Evil Grin*

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It seems that you don't have the same tact and ability to let people to know that you aren't being serious as Sine does... Unless you are being serious?


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Not only that, but he misspelled Wookiee.

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I've seen it in books Wookie and Wookiee.

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im having a thick moment and im not sure if that was sarcasm or not, coz the rest of the post seemed like it wasnt. but i sure as hell hope it was.

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It was sarcasm. In fact, I don't think Sine has made a single serious post on this thread.

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Sine, I always knew you were a traitor. Just like all liberals. Yes, all liberals are Saddam loving terrorists.

Seriously, though:

Come on, Yecti. Don't the ends justify the means? If you agree the end of the war is good than why gripe about technicalities at this point. Besides, Bush didn't lie. He was given faulty intelligence. The difference is intent.

Faulty Intel.....

You mean his brain

Yes, end of war = good.



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becuase those technicalties involved bombing the entire country to find one man? hmm where have i seen that before

obviously no one really died, all 10 iraqi's are still alive.

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I misspell it on purpose. Not originally but after realizing that it is spelled wrong, I continue to spell it my way.

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Why wouldn't I be serious? Bush could have acted honorably. He didn't have to continue to proliferate the same lies the UN and politicians like President Clinton and Senator Kerry had been telling us for years. He promissed he would restore honor to the White House.

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Besides there have in the past been numerous presidents that were elected just the same as he... Were they not elected either?

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"So there I was completely naked and covered in tartar sauce..."

Interesting.


El. Oh. El.

Just in case that wasn't sarcasm, I'd like to point out that this act was set up by the US.

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It seems to me the Iraqi attitude is "Um, yeah, thanks for getting rid of Saddam and everything, but you need to leave." And of course we won't. That's like leaving a wounded lamb in a wolf's den.

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