You know I've been reading some threads... and there is so much anti Windows out there... I mean joking aside I think XP is a pretty damn good OS. It does its job for a good part of the time and I know Linux can do it better but honestly I don't want to be programing my OS on the fly so today I start a pro Windows thread... cause well I like the damn thing.

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

*Hides in fear of GBK's wrath*

Linux isn't for everyone.

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I agree. I have NEVER had a real problem with windows. EVER. Linux is a *****. Good, but still a giant *****.

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WOOSH.
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Ha... hahaha... HAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

*ahem* haha...excuse me...*ahem*

I fear for your computer now that you have spoken those words.

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KOP_blujay
Just dancin'...and singin'...in the Force.

While windows will occaisionally annoy me, I've yet to encounter a problem that will make me seriously consider linux. Windows works fine for what I need my computer to do for me.

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And everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon...

DSettahr's Homepage

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

I rest my case.


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B'tduz: A popular dwarfish game which consists of standing a few feet apart and throwing large rocks at one another's head.

"Yes, it's a bloody flying alligator setting fire to my city!" - His Grace His Excellency the Duke of Ankh, Commander Sir Samuel Vimes.

Morituri Nolumus Mori

blujay, why would you fear for it? I jsut said I never had any problems. And I was using ME, too. And currently with XP, i've had NO problems.

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WOOSH.
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Yes... except that you just jinxed yourself!

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When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

I've had little problems with Windows along the track, but never considered every switching over to Linux. Hell, I havn't had to reinstall WindowsXP for over 62weeks now.
I really do love Windows. Frankly, I'd rather use an iMac [than ever use Linux].

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"When all else fails, eat pie."
-¬thoughts from beyond observance

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linux has no good audio player

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"Music is the universal language and the
dialect we speak in is Hip Hop!" - King Solomon

I never had any problems with XMMS.

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Sorry for the lousy English

Try using it one day!

The Linux core, ie the barebones operating system is fine, if you want to run a server or something. However I don't want to run a server, I want to actually use my computer.

I really don't like open-source applications. I don't have a problem with releasing code snippets, or releasing your code if you abandon the project. But only one team should be working on a project at once, it stops a lot of headaches.

Phew, i am glad to see other people here.

I....Like....Windows.... I don't see why everyone has to bash it so much.


Of Course, Linux doesn't look as user friendly for people who aren't that computer savy.

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"Run Away!"

'Bad' doesn't mean problematic, but the windows alternatives are better

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"Music is the universal language and the
dialect we speak in is Hip Hop!" - King Solomon

i have never once said that Windows was bad... at least not seriously

linux isn't for everyone.

right now i'm enjoying OS X... and wow, anyone would fall in love with it.

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why is a raven like a writing desk?

I have a feeling this is going to get fairly ugly so im going to back away from this now...

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Madquack and Firbnic have a signature.
Remnant Temple Part A beta test.
Light And Darkness

Windows works, I can live with it... I havent tried linux but I might... I just feel the urge to try something new, i've been using windows for as long as its been around and its getting a bit samey.

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

I didn't.



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You're entering a world of pain.

The point?

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The point is that Linux is not part of the "trusted computing wave," ergo your every move will not be reported to Microsoft and other companies that will have fun selling it. If what was once Palladium is enacted, every file you try to access will be controlled by what Microsoft and its little underlings want you to be able to access. Imagine only being able to use Microsoft products which cost extremely large amounts of money because they are the only "secure" products.

I love Linux, but I use Windows on a daily basis because it is what my high-powered desktop is running out of obligation.

I am fine with Windows, though it does annoy me a lot.
Also, I've been trying to install Linux on another computer for a while, and it has been very frustrating.

*sigh* Maybe I shouldn't have chosen Gentoo.

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"With Great power comes great Responibility. Seems like the converse should be true as well. Now where the heck is my great Power?"

Oh, well the little bit that I read through gave me the implication that it was a fairly reasonable reaction to software privacy. I know people who illegally copy DVDs with bootlegged copies of DVD XCopy while downloading MP3s on Kazaa.

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very true.

Microsoft is planning on implementing palladium in the next windows version, Longhorn.



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I had a good idea for a perfect new sig, but then I forgot what it was...

I'm looking forward to the next Windows realease all the improvements they are making do look rather interesting.

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

Windows is incredible. Show me another OS that anyone... ANYONE, can install and run on one of the 23518816574846519846515454981 computer software and hardware configurations out there.
There isn't one.

On the other hand it is annoying when you are trying to do something that 'it' doesn't want you to do.
If you are trying to do something 'it' doesn't want you to do, you are experienced enough to get Linux.

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To artificial life, all reality is virtual.
HTP

I could go an a rant here, but I think I will spare all of you. If you are foolish enough to actully trust Microsoft, then to hell with you.


Linux isnt for everyone. I would arge who its for and who its not, but that would piss the lot of you off.


Both Linux and Windows have their pros and cons. But in my opinion, Linux's pros greatly outweigh its cons, and Windows' cons greatly outweigh its pros. In my opinion.

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The future is here, and all bets are off.

Longhorn + .NET + TC + integrated MSN spam = one crappy OS.

The only reason people, like yourselves, are bashing Linux and praising Windows is that you are sick of people like GBK and even myself hyping it so much. It goes both ways. If people start hyping Windows, people will turn to linux. It's only natual to rebel.

As far as the better OS is concerned, one cannot really say that in one sentence. The meaning of GNU and Linux does not truely lie in the OS itself, but what it stands for and it's potential. Microsoft will always be closed and monopolistic while Linux will always be open and free. For example, say you were unsatisifed by an aspect of a distrubution or program in linux. You could bring up the source code, make the changes, and redistribute it under the GPL. Can you do this with Windows? I didn't think so. And from a developers standpoint, linux is even better. There is mySQl, PHP, Perl, Python, gcc, and many open source languages. Microsoft instead brings you .NET, their stragagy to control e-buisness.

Linux is for people who want complete control and freedom over every aspec over their OS. Think Linux can't do everything Windows can? Think again. I have auto-updates, word processing, printing, chat, spreadsheets, IDEs, firefox, DVD deciders, CD/DVD burning, ogg/flac/mp3 enc/decoders, flash, Java, and yes, GAMING. Under WineX, I can play Morrowind, Max Payne, GTAIII, Battlefield, Warcraft III, Starcraft, Diablo II, Red Alert 2, Soldier of Fortune II, and others I can't remember. I have native ports of UT2003/4, Quake III, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Enemy Terretorty, and more.

If you want to continue using Windows, that is your choice and so be it. People claiming to have no problems? Even if you don't know it, Windows is a becon for spyware viruses and securety hacks.

In my school libray I got about 15 bluescreens in the past week. If you like that kind of thing, keep on using windows.

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I check my e-mail.

XMMS is Linux's WinAmp, it's almost exactly the same.

Yea,and Linux isn't for everyone. I boot to both WinXP and Gentoo and I'm extremely happy with both.



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Napalm is nature's toothpaste.

I've used a slew of operating systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS, BeOS). Each has their pros and cons. The Windows 95/98/ME was a joke. I bet my colleauges in CS 433 (oper. sys) can write a better one. MS seemed to redeem itself with 2K/XP. I've had little problems with XP thus far. And to those who complain about XP's foofoo frills, you can turn them off. *sigh* I wish the American Public were not so afraid of the personal computer. It's not hard to learn the machine. Anyway I digress.

The reason why we're stuck with Windows is because of marketing. That's it. There is no other reason than just sheer marketing power. How many of you have heard of BeOS? It's a good OS. I've used it before. I just might try it again...if it still exists. Good OS, bad bad marketing. Thus it dies.

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Get Final Fantasy XI running in Linux, and I'll switch for good.

And I haven't had a bluescreen on my system since I had that bad ram, back in... 6 months ago? The only errors I ever have are program specific. I don't get those errors in Linux because lo and behold, it doesn't work in Linux. But lets say this:

Get FFXI running
Dual monitor support w/ 3D acceleration on at least ONE monitor
EAX Audio support

And I'll switch. Until then, Linux is a no-go except for servers.

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"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net

I like Linux; but I'm using WinXP (fully legal) at the moment, simply because I see no advantage to switching over. WinXP has not crashed for me since I bought/installed it about 6 months ago.

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GhostOfYoda - General doer of stuff.

Grandalf: BeOS is dead. Long dead. It was an excellent OS, true, but its long gone.



So . . . let me get this straight . . you wont use Linux until it can run a specific game? Well, the 3d accell with multiple monitors I can understand. Running multiple monitors myself, I can understand your issues with that . . . But EAX audio? WTF? Who cares?

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The future is here, and all bets are off.

EAX is just marketting to get you to buy a Creative card. It's just software. I bet any other sound card is cabable doing the same thing. But EAX is closed source, so you are forced to use creative cards. Thus the motive.

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I check my e-mail.

No, actually you can't. Ever tried getting rid of Internet Explorer?

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I check my e-mail.

Because I have a good sound system, and I like it. Dammit.

And I want FFXI, because its a MMORPG I pay to play every month, and if I am gonna switch to Linux, it dam better work. And there are other games too, but that's the biggie.

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"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net

The minute you started treating this discussion like a political campaign, you lost all credibility.

It seems to me that people who rave about Linux have been exposed to problems when using Windows that most people NEVER encounter. How odd, you'd think the more experienced computer users would know how to avoid problems rather than create them...

Anywho, lets break your post into chunks, religious-forum style!

Longhorn + .NET are looking good, you only have a very dated alpha build as evidence to the contrary. Don't make stuff up, it weakens your arguments.

I don't like Linux (and open source in general) because of all the headaches it has caused me. There is no consistancy, no standardisation. Just last week the wonders of OpenOffice.org caused my group at university to lose a significant portion of our project an hour before the deadline. You and GBK hyping Linux merely makes it fun to bash Linux.

You can use any of those languages you mentioned in your third paragraph on windows, so your point here is completely irrelevant.

There's nothing wrong with your fourth paragraph.

I use Linux and Unix when I have to, but I prefer Windows. I will continue to use Windows until it actually becomes as bad as you claim it is, then i'll reconsider.

Oh bull. If you like Linux, wonderful, I'm happy for you. However I really don't care enough about your opinion to seek to "rebel" against it and if you really think that's the case, put a heatpack on your ego. I simply have seen no reason to abandon Windows. It does all I want and I haven't had any issues with it. I don't hate Linux, I just don't need it.

Good god people who treat operating systems like religions annoy me. Just use whatever the hell you want to use and I'll do likewise.



...right, because obviously everyone else is experiencing the same thing I haven't had a bluescreen in years.



I never put much stock in EAX until I got a 6.1 card/speakers and played my first game with EAX turned on.....wow. I love it. I don't care if it's a ploy by Creative, it works and it works very well.

People just have different priorities with computing. Because you run servers, etc that kind of thing is really important to you with gaming a bit further down the list. To a hardcore gamer things like EAX are very much desired. Hell, I wouldn't really call myself a hardcore gamer as I only get a couple a year but after experiencing EAX on 6.1 I would -hate- to lose it.

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Here's somthing you can relate to DeTRiTiC-iQ. What program do you use to make your famous JK2 maps? Oh, did you say you use The Gnu Image Manipulation ProgramToolKit Radient? That's interesting.

Nobody is stopping you from using Windows. By all means go ahead. Just stop bashing Linux.

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I check my e-mail.

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