Nearly the entire movie is about Jesus being totured. I don't exactly read the bible so I don't know much about the other minor characters such as Peter and the rest of Jesus's disciples. I wonder how well this movie would be recieved (insane DVD sales of 4 million on the first day.), if all the religious content was stripped out the movie. Then again I am watching this movie from a non-religious aspect (although I am somewhat of a Christian) so maybe that's why it's affecting my "enjoyment".

Edit: Do you guys know Jesus (James Caviezel) is the next Superman?

...to remove the religious content from a movie about the Son of God would rather defeat the purpose.

but most of the sales was simply because of the fact that its about Jesus; but if it wasn't Jesus, if it was just some average guy, would it have done nearly as well? i would say no

Not surprising at all.. he has kinda sorta been a celebrity for 2000 years.

Hey everybody! Jesus is NEO!

<.<

I honestly wouldn't be buying this one. It was good enough for me in theaters and I really don't want to look at it again with the eye of critism. The film did move me, but its just something I really don't want to pull out and say "Hey hun, let's watch this again." I mean, I would watch it again if my family rented it, but it has served its purpose for me. It showed me that Jesus could do something that I don't think I could do.

Ditto

Wonderfully well said.

Look! Up in the sky... It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's SUPER CHRIST!

I heard the entire movie is just one big *** beating

I don't think you're allowed to comment on anything having to do with God. :p

Haven't seen it yet, but I have to give Mel Gibson credit for making a film he really had his heart set on. He wanted people to see the tourture of Christ...he did it. It moved and changed many people, so more power to him/them.

It is. It's -the- worst movie I've ever seen. The violence is irrealistic (christians will argue this, but any normal human being - which jesus supposedly was - would have died or at LEAST passed out halfway through), instead of adding actual content, the whole movie is jesus getting the crap beat out of him from start to finish, alot of the actors just plain sucked, satan's depiction was laughable...

But hey, it had jesus in it, so all the religious people thought it was brilliant. Heck, they could've put Jesus in Gigli, and it would've been a #1.

The whole thing is sad, really. They should've at least put some more content instead, and save the beatings for the end. The violence was impressive for about fiften minutes. After that, there's just so much of it that you become indifferent to it. I found myself constantly looking at my watch, waiting for the movie to finally end, so I could leave the theater and go rant about how I just wasted 5 bucks and two hours.

OMQ!

Never cared to see it. Still don't care to see it.

It was a religious film, not one made to win Academy Awards. Take it for what it was supposed to be, man.

Yeah, kind of the same way I feel about "Schindler's List". It is a very moving film to watch the first time but it's not something you want to watch again for entertainment reasons. As to buying the DVD, my parents most likely will since they really love Christian films.

i'd say it was accurate... i haven't done the hairless slightly gender neutral look in a long time but i think i was doing it back then

[note: if you are offended by the whole "i'm satan" thing that i do.... sit down shut up and go play with your jesus action figure]

Go Kung Fu Jesus!

You know... You could have ALOT of fun rewritting the Matrix script so all Neo references become Jesus references.

But that'd probably offend people real fast.

Or vice versa, rewrite the "Passion of the Christ" script and replace setting and characters with that of the Matrix. I want to see how well the movie is recieved then.


I agree, but hardcore Christians who worship this movie would probably say something like "the torture was fascinating because they kept on coming up with new ways to torture him".



I suppose you're right, but wouldn't it better if it was a film designed to appeal to Christians and movie critics?

This film does move you though, it made me move my finger over to the stop button on the remote before the credits rolled.

No, because the critics like unusual, original weird films, like Donnie Darko, or films with twists like Sixth Sense. Or really melancholic yet somewhat intriguing films like Lost In Translation. None of these types of plot can be grafted onto events documented 2,000 years ago without someone getting slightly annoyed.

the thing that bothered me is that this movie is based on how he died. and it celebrates the entire death. and it made people feel moved because this guy went through a hell of a lot of **** and they take it for granted. focusing on how Jesus died isnt gonna help anyone though. if you want to live a better christain life focus on how he LIVED. if it wasnt for how he lived he wouldnt of died. maybe he forgot how he lived. or maybe it was suppose to be a guilt trip. to be fair im not chatholic and i didnt see it. guilt trips suck.

Didn't see it in theaters, don't plan on seeing it on DVD, for the simple reason I feel no reason to subject myself to such emotional upset.

I'm not a Christian and thought the film was quite good. The Christian bible is one of the most fascinating books ever written. There is much to learn from such a great piece of work, and I find it annoying that the current trend amongst our anti-religious youth is to bash things via unenligtened exaggeration. It was a good movie, but as someone stated above, I wouldn't purchase it for entertainment purposes. In other words, it's one of those movies that I only needed to see once.

Mel Gibson set out to do something and he did it. No more, no less. He set out to show people the hell Jesus went through via film. If it wins academy awards, super, but that's not why he made it.

We rented Passion of The Christ last night. Needless to say, it was emotionally shocking, and definitely gut-wrenching to see what our Lord had to go through, just to redeem our sins.

But my wife thinks Gibson just did the movie for shock value so he could get rich. I told her "no", simply because Gibson is a devoted Catholic himself, and did the movie to portray to everyone in the modern world just what he suffered and endured.

For you.

Several references in the movie:

Jesus' lashing, when he looked upon the dove: The Holy Spirit.

The man in black robes and his little children, the devil and his little imps.

I know there are lots of others, but I can't recall. My mind's in a whirlwind over this movie. Any help?

Well guilt trips suck, but sometimes, that's what it takes to get a person back on track. I think the movie is supposed to be a guilt trip a bit.

As for Flexor's comment....

True, this movie isn't for everyone. I can agree with that. However, I feel that they made the movie with more content then the actual story in the Bible (not for sure, but it seemed that way). And as for Jesus not passing out or dying a bit prematurly, well, He really wasn't an ordinary human. He was something special. "Savior" isn't a title you give to an ordinary human.

Yeah I know how you feel. I had nearly lost my faith when I saw that movie--needless to say it reminded me of my past, of my pastor, of everything that made me a christian. I'm now sure in my faith.

But it was dizzying for a while. I can't say I looked for any alternate representations of things, nor do I remember any of them. Ah well.

Sidenote: Hope your new child's doing well.

Another reference was the uglyass baby that satan was holding, which represents the coming of the Antichrist.

I liked it, though as has been said before it's not something I necessarily want to own. To be honest, I felt it dragged a little simply because, in general, I'm not bothered by movie violence (although it did make me flinch here and there). Although, as I remember, the ending scene was absolutely amazing.

I think it's funny that they use the tagline "OWN IT FOREVER!" on all the PotC stands in stores. If there's one movie that shouldn't promote the idea that you can hold on to material possessions eternally, this would be it.

Jesus was supposed to be a normal human being - not somekind of superman.

What was taught to me in my church-going days was that Christ could have survived indefinitely if he wanted to, but he had to die for our sins.. or something. I don't necessarily believe it, but that's what I was taught.

The 2 PotC (hey... Passion of the Christ has the same acronym as Pirates of the Caribean) threads have been merged.

I watched it at the cinema, and once was more than enough for me. I got all the references from studying history, and general knowledge: I'm aganostic, so I most certainly didn't pick it up in church

But it was just damn icky and long.

I kind of agree with Flex, that it was just dull after a while, and some more content wouldn't have gone amiss, but I have to admit I only watched it to say I had, so didn't care that I found it boring by the end. I wasn't dissapointed.

Although it did just make me think of Life of Brian at the end... I was singing "Always look on the bright side of life to myself as I got up..."

I got some funny looks!

They did this movie sans religion a few years ago in Japan. It's called The Devil's Experiment. Don't Google it.

Meh, religion.

I'll stick up with Star Wars.

You know you've just lead everyone that reads this thread to go and Google that afterwards. :-)

You’re right, he isn't some kind of superman, He's Jesus Christ. Big difference.


All through his life, Jesus’ purpose was to redeem our sins by dieing on the cross.
It said some where in the bible that if Jesus didn't take all the pain and suffering, then not everyone’s sins would be forgiven. Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant, because that’s how Gibson made it, by the Bible. Thus, Jesus doesn't die after fifteen minutes.

One thing that's surprised me about the whole overblown "Passion" hype is that it hasn't seemed to made anyone go back and watch similar films, like Martin Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ.