Don't use the term "settling down" for any kind of relationship before the age of 21. Settling down is when you get married and pop out some knee biters. The behaviors and goals of a woman looking for a bf(younger women) and one looking for a husband("older" women) are vastly different.

Are you talking to me or someone else?

That's not exactly the definition of "nice guy." It seems to be more like the definition of a jellyfish.

You. And I specified my post more, to make it more understandable. And that ex-wife of your cousin was an exception(if she was in the "older" category, otherwise she's a statistic), not the rule. Most "older"(and I mean 24+ when I say that, hence the "")women are usually mature enough to know that it is time to put down the party hat and get serious about life.

Here's a crazy throught... maybe it's the women you were seeing. What kind of women are you looking for? I can indeed see the niceguy/doormat in you because you've conformed to an image that the women you want to date would like to see. Or at least, that's exactly what it looks like.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to date a different type of woman?

true , but some women still cheat, regardless of age. As far as I can see, knowing why is the key to keep it from happening to you.

Btw, my cousin was 26 when it happened, I have no idea how old she was, but i would guess mid 20's. Even so, she is too old to be pulling that s***, you would think.

You know how High school chicks are, right? They are so damn flaky, and at the time, i didn't know better than to not watch out for that. However, chicks mellow out more in college-- they are beginning to transition towards the state that kieran described.

Times have changed, like I said. The guy I used to be is dead.
The stuff I fell for in HS would never trap me now.

Now, I'm looking for a chick that is fun and wants to have a good time with me. Looks are definitely important, but I would rather be with a fun average-looking chick than a hot boring one.

also, i don't conform to what chicks want. they must conform to what I want, or else I keep walking.

gasp.. the sanctity of marriage is corrupt, guys. the world's goin' down in fire and flames.

also, like it's been said, Page, if you conform to what "women want", then YOU are a doormat. you should find a woman who really just likes you, not a picture you've painted or a guise you're hiding under.


so, the truth comes out, Page is the weakness he abhors. he may hide behind the tough guy macho super alpha male image, but deep down he's just another nice guy.

didn't you read what i just posted?

no, i don't read other people's post. they conform to my posts.

Keyword being some. You made it sound like a nice guy would always be cheated on.

Warlord: Pagewizard is on the other end of the spectrum. To a fault.

Right, because a sample group of ONE tells a lot about all women who settle down



...what's wrong with striking a balance between what you BOTH want? Basing a relationship where one party, male or female, always gets there way doesn't strike me as being a solid foundation.

OK, So I know both Sam (Good god man, I know you can type better than that!) and Abby personally, and Sam, let me tell you, Abby is the biggest emotional rollercoaster you could possibly imagine. The first time I met her, she got all cudly and touchy-feelly, which isn't exactly a bad thing with such a good looking girl, but really? She doesn't mean much of anything by it. She just likes to have physical comfort.

I'd say you should ignore this other girl, because she'll go up and down about it.

I'd also like to make a short note about the guy Abby broke up with:

Nick is possibly one of the nicest guys I've ever met, yet for some reason, he makes all the wrong decisions. Last summer, we were at the summer program together with a girl Noel, whom had a younger sister who joined the summer program THIS summer. For some reason, Nick went for this girl while still with Abby.

Do all of you remember all of my 'Who forewards this crap to people?' threads? Jael, Nick's new girlfriend, sent it all to me. This girl is simply stupid. She's a bimbo. She lacks all higher thinking, and her emotional mood-swings are equal to that of a 4th grader. She cries at EVERY SINGLE THING. The girl bawls when she accidently hurts someone, or when someone says something relitivelly mean towards anyone. She also lacks the cognative skills to do ANYTHING productive.

In the situation between choosing between Abby and Jael, I'd have chosen Abby in a heartbeat. I guess nick overlooked this detail of 'decision' and went with the 2 years younger Jael instead of the 2 years older, and wiser Abby.

I think Abby's obviously feeling quite down right about now, so I think maybe you should just be there for her Sam. In the end, I'm sure things will work out.

Oh, and LASTLY: Bad guys will only succeed in an environment where the girl demands to be controlled, due to a poor childhood relation with her father. We're talking white-trash here. Any other situation? A girl wants an interesting, witty, but calm and nice guy to spend the rest of her life with. A creative guy doesn't need to be mean and unsensative to be new and exciting, it just takes a bit of effort. Effort you obviously dont' have, Pagewizard.

JediKirby

Thank you for making my day.

Um....about that "controlled" part jedikirby. I would like to mention that no sane girl likes to be controlled, but they do like it when a guy takes the initiative and leads them. On the flip side of that, a lot if not most girls are used to getting their way when dating guys. So when a guy comes along that doesn't allow her to control him and his behavior or doesn't put up with any brattiness on her part, that increases the intrigue.

She may not realize she demands to be controlled, but it's a common trait found in some girls who had a rough childhood relationship with their fathers. They're used to being told what to do, how they can do it, and when they will do it. It can also leave to abusive exsistences. I'm sure this is probably outdated with todays new generation, but it's still a possible reality even today.

JediKirby

I'd just like to throw this out there. Women tend to be more likely to cheat around their 30's. This is after they've been married for a few years, may have kids, have found themselves unhappy with thier current situation, and have reached a sexual peak.

kirbs....I wasn't talking about women with messed up childhoods of some sort. I was talking about women in general.