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McDonalds Super-Sizing
2004-09-26, 7:58 AM #1
I remember hearing this months ago but now McDonalds is actually following through. This one really irritates me. Political correctness. They'll probably actually make more money now, though, as the smaller sizes sold at higher profit margins. Anyways, I was not a big fan of the whole supersized meal but one of my guilty pleasures would be to order Super-sized Diet Cokes. So, let me get this straight: I can still get a double quarter-pounder with cheese but not a super-sized diet coke?
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-09-26, 8:04 AM #2
If they're going to make it possible for someone to have a "balanced lifestyle," the best thing they can do is to just shut down right now.
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2004-09-26, 8:05 AM #3
They're probably trying to force fatties to order two instead of one.
2004-09-26, 8:13 AM #4
Exactly how big are/were the super-size meals?
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2004-09-26, 8:18 AM #5
How is trying to appease complaints in order to make a profit "political correctness"? That has to be the most overused term ever.
2004-09-26, 8:18 AM #6
if they were really concerned about peoples health they would sell fruit instead of french fries =)
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2004-09-26, 8:41 AM #7
Quote:
Originally posted by Jedi Legend
How is trying to appease complaints in order to make a profit "political correctness"? That has to be the most overused term ever.


Maybe but not by me. It is political correctness because they are not trying to appease complaints of legitimate customers. Just the freaks who sue because they have no self control. So the next time McDs gets hauled into court they'll say they reduced the size of their meals. It doesn't seem to me that "real" customers would complain about a broader selection of sizes. Seems obvious that more people will complain when the selection is reduced. Liberals should be particularly opposed to this action if they really believed most of the stuff they say as a (liberal) case can be made that this step is directed at hurting lower income families.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-09-26, 8:49 AM #8
I think that McDonal's actually increased the size of their large to make up for no Super Size, becuase when I get a large frie now, they seem bigger than they used to be.
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2004-09-26, 8:51 AM #9
I don't really care that they are doinf it one wya or the other, but I agree with wookie
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2004-09-26, 8:55 AM #10
It's not political correctness; it's helping to protect themselves from lawsuits.
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2004-09-26, 9:38 AM #11
Quote:

Riker said the phasing out of super-sizing has "nothing to do with that [film] whatsoever."


Of course it doesn't...

;)
2004-09-26, 9:42 AM #12
Dammit, now I'm hungry.

*goes to McDonalds*
Stuff
2004-09-26, 9:43 AM #13
Why oh WHY did people need a documentary to tell them fast food will make them fat...
2004-09-26, 9:45 AM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by Rob
Why oh WHY did people need a documentary to tell them fast food will make them fat...


Because of ignorance.
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2004-09-26, 10:48 AM #15
Quote:
...are under growing public pressure to give consumers healthier food options in a nation that has suddenly become aware of its bulging waistline and the health dangers that come with it.
Because thanks to the American "justice" system, people are not responsible for their stupidity. I can order a hot coffee, scold myself with it, and sue the pants off someone else.

Now, people who enjoyed supersizing as McDonald's have to suffer for the incompetance of customers not intelligent enough to feed themselves properly.

Person 1: "uhh... why do I keep getting fat?"
Person 2: "Because God hates you."
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
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2004-09-26, 10:52 AM #16
Actually, fast food doesn't make one fat. Consuming more calories than are expended make one fat.

It always irritated me that in order for me to get a super-size drink with a meal I would sometimes have to super-size the whole damn thing (although it seemed that many times they had no problem substituting a smaller fries for the s.s. one; don't know if they charged me less). Personally I would be happy with the small happy meal sized fries with a meal. I just really enjoyed their Super-sized Diet Cokes. Especially when I was on the road. I usually didn't even get the damned fries.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-09-26, 10:55 AM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Actually, fast food doesn't make one fat.
I didn't say it did.
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2004-09-26, 10:55 AM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I can order a hot coffee, scold myself with it, and sue the pants off someone else.


Apparently that's not the whole story to that situation, there was a thread where people were supposed to post stupid lawsuits and I think it was jedikirby (?) and a couple others who posted the full story to that. Much different issue than condensed versions (like yours) lead one to believe.

Hmm, guess it does suck that the super size is going away, but I've been eating at Whataburger more anyways. :D
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2004-09-26, 10:56 AM #19
Solution: Don't eat at McDonalds.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
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2004-09-26, 11:00 AM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I didn't say it did.


Sorry for the confusion. That was meant as a response to echoman but I failed to quote him.
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2004-09-26, 11:11 AM #21
fact : It takes 15,000 steps to burn off all the fat from a mcdoalds happy meal

fact2 : McDonalds sucks ***, go to spud-u-like, its healthier and tastes much better
nope.
2004-09-26, 11:18 AM #22
Except for their breakfast meals, I havn't been able to eat at McDonalds in a long time. It just never sounds good.
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2004-09-26, 11:41 AM #23
/me goes to McDonald's and tells them to supersize. :D
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2004-09-26, 11:45 AM #24
I like an occasional McDonalds... by occasional, I mean less than once a month. And most of the time, I get a Big Mac with a banana milkshake, or just a banana milkshake.

I have a pretty crappy diet, too.
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2004-09-26, 11:56 AM #25
Fast food my arse. I tried to order a cheeseburger yesterday at one at the bus stop, I was waiting for a good 10 minutes, then saw my bus, when I asked if it was ready they said they were "just making the bacon" which I didn't even want. I had to get my money back, but missed the bus anyways, so I went back in to order another one since the next bus wasn't due for 15 minutes. 15 minutes later I'm still waiting in line, so I just left and hopped on the bus. Screw McDonalds.
2004-09-26, 12:00 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Liberals should be particularly opposed to this action if they really believed most of the stuff they say as a (liberal) case can be made that this step is directed at hurting lower income families.


If a lower-income family buys more of the crap because it's cheaper that way, they will pay it back, and way beyond, in health expenses.

In my opinion, McDonald's and similarly harmful products should cost a lot more, they should be taxed like hell while healthier, "normal" foods should be cheaper.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2004-09-26, 12:02 PM #27
Sometimes I eat at McDonalds. And I even enjoy my meal, probably because I eat there once a month or so. Whatever.

Let's just eat some pizza! :D
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2004-09-26, 12:27 PM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Krokodile
If a lower-income family buys more of the crap because it's cheaper that way, they will pay it back, and way beyond, in health expenses.

In my opinion, McDonald's and similarly harmful products should cost a lot more, they should be taxed like hell while healthier, "normal" foods should be cheaper.


So the federal government should profit from people eating at McDonald's?

And lower income people are hurt more because they're more likely to buy super-sized products to share among their families. A super-sized fry is more than enough for three or four people. Now, if they eat at McDonald's they may very well spend more buying additional smaller sizes. Higher income people may do the same thing. I have. But we're less likely to feel the financial impact of this idiocy.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-09-26, 12:36 PM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by Krokodile
If a lower-income family buys more of the crap because it's cheaper that way, they will pay it back, and way beyond, in health expenses.


Absolutely not true. I don't know where you come from, but MacDonald's is a lot more expensive than most of the meals I eat at home. I don't know why the trend of poor people eating MacDonald's has developped... just because it's cheaper than other restuarents definitly doesn't mean it's cheap.
2004-09-26, 12:40 PM #30
I'm not for all this corporate taking over the world crap and the stuff McDonalds does.... But, you can't honestly blame them for people being overweight and having heart problems from their food.... I mean, these people choose to go there and eat this food a lot. McDonald's doesn't have to be concerned about the public's health, because the public should be concerned about their own health.
2004-09-26, 5:20 PM #31
Fast food is not cheaper than going to the grocery store and buying food. The food budget at my house is $4.25 a day, or about what a value meal costs at McDonalds or any other fastfood place. That $4.25 covers breakfast, lunch, dinner, and everything in between.

The "fast food is cheap" argument is bull****.
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2004-09-26, 5:37 PM #32
The medium is plenty big enough for me anyway. I don't even want a large/super meal cause I know I'd get super fat. It's just too much food for me anyway, and I can eat more than a lot of ppl (or at least used to; I'm trying to eat less).

Quote:
Originally posted by Mort-Hog
Solution: Don't eat at McDonalds.
Yep.

BK > McD's imo
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2004-09-26, 5:39 PM #33
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
The "fast food is cheap" argument is bull****.


Well, it could be "cheap" in a way that you can a prepared meal that comes faster and cheaper than at a resturant. Sure, it might be cheaper (in terms of money) to prepare your food at home, but that takes time and relies on your cooking skills.
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2004-09-26, 5:56 PM #34
Sure, but it's still a misleading argument
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2004-09-27, 7:45 AM #35
Quote:
Originally posted by Krokodile
Exactly how big are/were the super-size meals?

well that depends on where you are from. but think about it like this:
Regular size (med) - sandwitch, 21 fl oz coke, enugh fries for 2 people (4oz)
Large Size - sandwitch, 32 fl oz coke, enugh fries for 3 people (6oz)
Super size - sandwitch, 42 fl oz coke, enough fries for the french army (i couldnt find that #).
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2004-09-27, 9:46 AM #36
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Fast food is not cheaper than going to the grocery store and buying food. The food budget at my house is $4.25 a day, or about what a value meal costs at McDonalds or any other fastfood place. That $4.25 covers breakfast, lunch, dinner, and everything in between.

The "fast food is cheap" argument is bull****.

You're forgetting a major element that is used to make your house's food budget healthier than fast food (both in terms of money and health): Brains. Most people don't know how to actually cook, or how to shop for groceries. As a result, they eat what's easy, quick, and generally affordable: when you look at it, $1 for a double cheeseburger at McD's (at least, that's what it costs where I live in the USA) is more affordable than the TV dinners they'd otherwise be eating, which are mostly above $2 for all of them, and they must be brought home and microwaved.
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2004-09-27, 9:57 AM #37
As for McDonald's legal liability, there still is some for the food case, though nowhere near as strong as the cofee case.

In case anybody didn't know already, the story that considers that case to be a "frivolous lawsuit to make the suer rich", was likely started by McDonald's itself, in order to protect it against previous cases. Here's a good source of the real information on the case:

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

For those too "super-sized" to be arsed to actually go over and read it (:D), here's a summary of the key facts that most never were told:
  • The case wasn't alone. More than 700 cases were filed against McDonald's between 1982-1992 by people who were actually burned.
  • The coffee was at an unsafe temperature: It was served at 180-190 Fahreinheit, hot enough to cause near-instant THIRD-DEGREE burns (which it did for 6% of the victim's skin in this case, which required immediate hospitalization). Normally, commercially produced coffee is at much less of a temperature such as 155 (which would not usually cause more than first-degree burns when soaked into clothing).
  • It was admitted that the QA managers at McDonald's recognised that if a customer drunk their coffee shortly after purchasing it, third-degree burns in the throat were almost gaurunteed.
  • The woman who sued was nothing like McDonald's would like you to believe. Most imagine a yuppie in her early 20's, trying to open her coffee while driving, and upset that she ruined her clothes. Instead, the victim was a 79-year-old woman, who attempted to open the cup while sitting in the passenger seat of a parked car.

There are others there, but it gives a clear indication that McDonald's was grossly negligent about the safety of their customers, as long as they bought their product.
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2004-09-27, 11:08 AM #38
Quote:
McDonald's doesn't have to be concerned about the public's health, because the public should be concerned about their own health.


Except their products damage public health. It's exactly the same as cigarettes.

Hamburgers should be clearly labelled "hamburgers will make you fat". It might not be their responsibility to keep the public healthy, but it is their responsibility to inform the public of the hazards of their products.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2004-09-27, 11:34 AM #39
Quote:
Originally posted by nottheking
You're forgetting a major element that is used to make your house's food budget healthier than fast food (both in terms of money and health): Brains. Most people don't know how to actually cook, or how to shop for groceries. As a result, they eat what's easy, quick, and generally affordable: when you look at it, $1 for a double cheeseburger at McD's (at least, that's what it costs where I live in the USA) is more affordable than the TV dinners they'd otherwise be eating, which are mostly above $2 for all of them, and they must be brought home and microwaved.


That's not McDonald's fault. Cooking is not hard. All one has to do is read directions. What you're saying is defending peoples' ignorance.
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2004-09-27, 11:55 AM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
That's not McDonald's fault. Cooking is not hard. All one has to do is read directions. What you're saying is defending peoples' ignorance.

I'm not defending their ignorance; I'm saying that just because they may be ignorant does not mean they should be forced to live the worst possible life. While I may be incredibly intelligent and educated, I am not really an intelectual elitist. Such an attitude toward groups of humanity is just not correct and humane.
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