I would only fight in a just war.

Not only would i be unwilling to fight . . . My horribly screwed up ankle might stop me from being drafted, I've heard tell of men not being drafted for less debilitating injuries.

But I object to war in almost every situation, especialy when dealing with the invasion of Iraq.

Yeah, when you said this:

Asthma.

The draft is evil. Would I have the courage to stand up against it? Probably not. That lack of courage would override my fear of war.

i'm a girl and dident support equal rights.. i wont be draftet right? meh...

maby i could get out on a disibility, maby i could get pregnant, cant go to boot camp if your pregnant. i donno. i may just dodge it, or spend a few months in jail. jail isant as bad as war is to me.

war is good for economy, but i dont want to have a part in it.

I would fight only if the war was on American Soil and there was a real eminent threat. I don't want to go over and dodge islamic radicals in Iraq. Life is too short for that.

I didn't think the Iraq war was justified once i found out there were no WMDs. Back in March of last year, I was for it, b/c i believed that Iraq had bunkers and bunkers full of the things. Presently, I just want our people to get the f*** out of there.
Fighting insurgents that are so chickens*** as to capture and murder civilians instead of fighting the US forces properly is not my idea of a justified war.

Sometimes I think of what it would be like if all of our soldiers just refused to fight.

one of my favourite quotes -

<Jedi_Legend> I don't want to be in the military, at all.
<Jedi_Legend> If I had to be, I'd try to be a tech guy.
<Jedi_Legend> Or someone not really in harms way.
<Jedi_Legend> Because I'm afraid of the freaking baseball when I bat, I'd never make it in war.


Let me get this straight...you don't support equal rights??????
You don't want the vote? You don't want equal pay? You don't want the opportunity to get an education? You....*head explodes*

I would only fight for the just cause, never for this country. If there'd be a European army, that'd be more my style.

Only defence.
Sure, the German "Bundeswehr" has no more aggressive wars, neither did they go into Iraq. So I am quite sure that I'd never be drafted for an unjust war. But things can change when the conservatives are back to power. They wanted to fight in Iraw also when the vast German majority was against it.

But anyway, if the war was unjust, I'd flee and fight for the enemies.

Haha, no. War outside Deus Ex is s***.

I'd only fight if the war was on Australian soil. Considering that any sort of major attack on my country would be a logistical nightmare, I think I won't be joining up anytime soon.

sorry to burst your bubble

Now get back in the kitchen, wench, and bake me a cake.

The main thing that bugs me is that the draft is often used by the politicians at the top to try to wrest control over the masses to gain their political goals, depsite the fact that the majority is against the war in question. This has happened on three very prominent occasions: the Mexican-American war in the 19th century, the Spanish-American war at the turn of the 20th century, and the Vietnam conflict in the 1960's. I think that some sort of draft might be needed, but it would look nothing like what the past ones have been. Here's a breakdown:

• EVERY US citizen between the ages of 18-26 must register with selective service, both men and women.
• Registration would include indicating one's stand on major issues that would be at the heart of a war. This would be the primary method by which draftees would be selected in a war; only those who supported such a fight would be sent. The people are happier because they aren't forced to die for some stubborn bureacrats who don't know what they're doing, and all the force, as a whole, will have higher morale.
• Also, if a person changes their mind at a later point about issues, they may go to the SS office and change it, though it wouldn't be implemented for 6 months (to prevent a person who really supports a war to get out of actually fighting for it, i.e; being a chickenhawk)

I would fight if I felt we should but of course this comes to:




If I was willing to fight, I hope it wouldn't turn out to be another Iraq or Vietnam.

Wouldn't want to fight in a war of conquest or an extended one of attrition. Not that I'd have a choice unless my eye-sight gets really bad or I somehow become grotesquely obese seeing as how wartime draft is legal in Finland and how every healthy Finnish male over 18 has to serve in the armed forces.

Fortunately the idea of the Finnish Defence Forces actually invading another nation seems very far-fetched at the moment and our foreign affairs seem to be in reasonably competent hands. The only major issues are whether to support a united EU force, whether to join the NATO in some form or other, the inevitable reluctant disarming of land-mined sectors on our borders, and a question of possibly reforming the armed forces into a smaller, more specialized, harder trained elite voluntary troops versus the current numerically superior one.

Curiously, Finland has just recently comissioned it's first ever desert-camouflage uniforms to add to the ranks of the standard Woodland and Arctic ones. Hmmm.

EVERYBODY!! ATTACK THE FINS BEFORE THEY INVADE YOU!

And Canada has been involved in all of the major conflicts of the twentieth century, Dogsrool, and has drafted citizens in both world wars. Now you know.

I've been a proponent of nanobots for as long as I can remember. If something's wrong with your body, nanobots should be able to fix it.

EDIT: Er... wrong thread. Weird.

Costa Rica is the only country in the world that doesn't have an army (save for countries like Vatican City, Monaco, Iceland, that are defended by other countries).

Surely that's what the world should be pushing for?

If I could complain pretty appalling eyesight as a disability, then I would. If I had to join the Army, I'd probably end up in the Royal Engineers.

Im an ally of britain, im a ally of america...:) ...:D ...:confused:

WHAAAAAAAAAA! IM NOT SO SMART!!!!!!

The world should be pushing to reach a point where druglords are their primary threat and must allow the U.S. to fight against them?

Me too.....

I am not threatened. My friends are not threatened. I see no reason to fight.

People that still protest the Vietnam War like a lot of you people here make me sick. The reason that war became a mess was not because of the job our soldiers and Marines were doing, but because of you hippies at home that wouldn't allow anything substantial to get done.

As a result, millions were killed during and after the war in the ensuing Communist-led genocide. Kudos. What a victory for peace.

Hippies? No. Those were just outspoken teenagers that were rebelling against the Man. It's the politcians fault. Too much politics was involved in that war. Kind of like the aftermath of the Iraqi war. See sig.

The fault is with both groups. The hippies were powerful, and politicians who tended to be less hippy-ish were swayed by the dark hippy powers amassing in Washington.

LBJ was a weakling too. Had he fought the war the way it should have been fought, that is, in North Vietnam, the war would've been over before the conniving politicians and ignorant hippies could have ever made a move.

The hippies were high, not powerful. If you want to look at a group that had power, look towards college students of that time.

I think we have a confusion of terms here. When I say hippy, I pretty much mean any fruity leftist that also smells. That would fit the majority of college students, either today or in the sixties.

So yes, 'hippies' did hold a lot of sway in Washington, in many cases encouraging anti-anti-communist thought in more mainstream circles in America while at the same time being very stinky.

...and what was America's overriding concern with Vietnam? Communists or something?

In other words, a war fought for no real reason. Sounds kind of familiar.

Read a history book sometime. See, at the time, the U.S. was engaged in what's known as the Cold War, which was in essence a war against communism.

Communism was spreading in Vietnam through non-democratic means, equalling in a seizure of freedom for the Vietnamese people. Seeing as how we wanted to limit Soviet control in the world, it was in our best interest to stop Vietnam from turning red.

Remember how quickly the communist expansion in South America stopped after we intervened in Grenada? Had we won in Vietnam, the Soviet morale would have been crushed far earlier and the war ended far sooner.

Yeah...Vietnam may have been somewhat pointless, but I don't look down on the soldiers. Anybody who was man enough to take the role given him and work with it I will respect.

He said he wouldn't want to be involved in anything the US is involved in but his quotes in his signature clearly contradict doing nothing.

Darn, most of you are cowards. Fight, people, fight! Even if it means going off to a distant country and getting shot in the neck just because George Bush told'ya so. :p

No. Actually, I would only fight in a just war. I'd much rather find myself behind bars for a couple of years then risk my life for a cause I absolutely do not believe in.

The funny, or not so funny, thing is that if you "refuse" to fight when you're drafted, you get much more than just jail-time. No, the government will go to long lengths to screw you over, like fining you a crapload of money, making it harder for you to get a job, make you look real bad, and other stuff like that. They'll just **** your life up as much as they can, or so my friend says, cause the same thing happened to him.

But then again maybe that's just what they say to scare you into going to war. Either way, I wouldn't be frightened by an invisible threat like that. If they wanna **** my life up like that, whatever. It'd **** it up way more if I went off to the middle east and got a bullet up my ****ing *** for no ****ing reason, god damn it.

But hey, if the war was just, and the enemy was a direct threat to our own soil, I would proudly defend my country, but I'm not gonna have some grey-haired son of a ***** like Bush tell me where I stand.

It's not about being a coward, it's about not being someone's peon.

I'm curious(and this question is for the Americans). It's obvious you wouldn't go if you got drafted to go to Iraq, but would you go if you were drafted to go to Afghanistan when we were still in hostilities with them?

Btw, I'm sure most of what your guys say is all for pomp and show. Should it really happen, I bet most of you would go anyway, just like the people who got drafted to go to Vietnam and didn't want to go. and Vietnam was a whole hell of a lot scarier.

Wait, wait, wait... I think this requires more explaining. What could you possibly have against having the legal rights of everyone else?

Haha, no, actually if you'd read my entire post you'll notice I was joking about that first comment in my post.

Unless it's a war such as World War 2, I wouldn't go to war. If there was any ambiguity, or it was based on a principle or theory (a la the domino theory that was behind the Vietnam war), I would do anything to save my candy-*** from getting fragged.