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North Korea reveals nukes
2004-09-30, 8:51 PM #81
All I know is, if they nuke us or their allies....

NK is no more.
2004-09-30, 9:20 PM #82
Hey, I'm just posting to keep my part in this discussion alive until I have time to respond to all of the attacks against my case. If I fail to respond, you can all make fun of me for the rest of my days. (Just don't call me yellow :mad: ) I didn't want everyone to assume that I had given up/didn't care to acknowledge opposition to my evil hegemonic ways.
2004-10-01, 12:34 AM #83
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Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
Ok, let me get this straight... You're saying NK had the best of intentions until it felt that it had been so ignored by the bad old, arrogant US, that it felt it had to make nukes to survive through the US’s arrogant policies? Did you recently retire from a job writing speeches for USSR politicians? I really hope I’m misunderstanding you.


Yes, that's pretty much exactly what I'm saying.

North Korea had everything to gain from agreeing to this pact, as did the US. That was until North Korea realised they were doing all the work, and the US weren't holding up their end of the bargain. Understandably, they weren't best pleased.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2004-10-01, 12:51 AM #84
Oh.. Yeah, well... Sorry. I made a mistake... Iran... Afghanistan isn't in the Axis. My bad. Still though. The point stands.

And yeah, Obi, Mort is right. We never renegotiated any of the sanctions that had been placed. We just kind of chilled and let the whole situation fester until apparantly NK was tired of pissing around. We don't need to go over there and take their stuff away because they made a warhead with it. We need to tell them "hey guys, you're supposed to be making power plants" and make sure they make power plants with it. If we lifted sanctions on them, maybe they wouldn't be so pissed at us.

And I also find it very funny, like someone already said, that Bush said the biggest threat to our country is WMD's, and the only country in the axis of evil that we have actually fought is the one without any.
>>untie shoes
2004-10-01, 1:18 AM #85
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2792.htm

Hmm...looks like both sides were dragging their feet.
omnia mea mecum porto
2004-10-01, 6:16 AM #86
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Originally posted by Mort-Hog
Yes, that's pretty much exactly what I'm saying.

North Korea had everything to gain from agreeing to this pact, as did the US. That was until North Korea realized they were doing all the work, and the US weren't holding up their end of the bargain. Understandably, they weren't best pleased.


Wow... Just wow... :eek: Are you high?

Pact? What have we learned for the past 50 about dealing with communists? They don't keep pacts. They use every thing to their advantage's and lie about it. To trust them with such technology is lunacy. Why should we help them with their own stupid power plant, anyway? Especially when we even gave them the material! The only reason they wanted the stuff was to make bombs anyway! Do you actually think Kim Il gives a flip about his people? He starves his people for his own personal advantage! Have you heard the anonymous testimonies of the people who escape, but were afraid to reveal their names because their entire families would get put in death camps? Communist dictators will not, have not, and are not proving them selves worthy of trust. It has been proven that during the cold war, Russia’s leaders signed disarmament pacts, and broke them! That’s what evil communists dictators do. If you trust Kim Il, you are intently ignoring the facts.
2004-10-01, 3:24 PM #87
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"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
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