i just got done watching this MTV news thing on gay and lesbian marriage and i just wanted to know other peoples opinion on this subject. personally, i don't really support gay & lesbian marriage, but i think that it should still be legal.


please note, this is mainly for people in the US, but anyone is welcome to post.
also, please don't let this thread get out of hand; its not a flame war, i just want opinion.

admins- if this thread is inappropriate or gets out of hand, feel free to close and/or delete this thread

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Didnt we have this debate yesterday?

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Yes. And the day before, and the day before that...

Honestly, I don't know which side to support. I can see both sides very easily...

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oops, guess i didn't notice that thread :S

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The real question is, are you for or against lesbian porn?

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Oh just let them marry and live in gayness till the end of their days, who cares?

Personally I'd like to see and end to drugs, violence, and rape, and street mimes. Ban Marriages between Lesbo's and LadyBoys?

PFT! I've got bigger fish to fry!

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

yes.. we really need to do something about the street mime problem.

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for.

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

BURN THEM AT THE STAKE



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Ruth i thought at first that read ban marriages between lesbians and ladybugs.. strange..

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For.



For.

Okey look it this way.

Why may a woman love a man, or a man love a woman. And a man a man, or a woman a woman not???

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That people have it a lot harder, when you find out that you are loving someone of your own sex. If you love a woman. And the... SMACK!!!... you love someone of your own gender. I think that is really hard to understand. BTW. I got a homoseksuel (okey i know that is typd wrong but i dont know how to type it) friend. His parents dont wanna see him anymore


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Homosexual.

And I think it's horrible of parents to disown a child simply because they're gay.

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I think that what people get to in private is their business, so long as they don't broadcast obvious messages. That just causes friction.

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[towards the world in general]

You may not think that homosexuality is right but shouldn't you let people have free choice as long as it isn't hurting them, if they really believe they love a member of the same sex. If they do - then let them - it doesn't affect you in the slightest.

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Sweet irony...

Oh and, for

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Sweet irony...

Im sorry but i really dont understand the reason why everyone is just obsessed about lesbo porn. ITS JUST WRONG PEOPLE!! GOOD GOD THINK ABOUT IT YOU SICKOS. Jeez porns wrong in the first place but that just makes it double wrong. Yes I am male and yes I like women but that is just wrong. *dies*

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Ive just lost any and all respect I ever had for a rather large portion of Massassi. Ive never before been ashamed to call myself a member, until today.

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Uh... why is that, GBK?

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I just find that funny coming from GBK

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*walks around parading a sign and chanting* We're here, We want porn! Get used to it!

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I think obsessed is a little too strong word...



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Sweet irony...

You can, without it being sexual. Don't you love your friends, regardless of their gender? And it can be just as strong as with people who are dating or married or whatever. That's terrible. I'm opposed to homosexuality, yet I still have gay & bisexual friends. Sounds like his parents are just ***holes.

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I find that horrible, I'm not gay but I know my parents wouldn't care.. they'd probably be shocked at first but I know they would still love me if i was. I never understood why people dislike gays so much... I mean it's like racism IMO. I'm not usually one to quote the bible but what ever happend to "love thy neighbour" and "judge not lest ye be judged".

I'm for gay marriage, I don't see how the issue affects anyone who isn't gay.

Oh and lesbian porn? Yes please.

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[This message has been edited by TheJkWhoSaysNi (edited April 02, 2004).]

I see it as a legal marriage and i think as humans everyone has a right to legally unite with whichever human he/she wants to.

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For.

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Who gave anyone the right to monopolize sex?

I think it's completely wrong and it's outrageous that the most absolute definition I can think of (marriage) is being questioned, however...I don't really care anymore. I just want to see a ban to gay couples adopting children. That is not a healthy environment for a child to grow up in.

There are physiological needs of a growing child for parents of both sex. Everything to a mothers touch affects how that person will turn out even when they're thirty years old. Yeah.....I'm gonna do math homework.

[This message has been edited by szero (edited April 02, 2004).]

No one. The players just kind of took over.

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szero brings up an interesting point. I do agree that a child should not be raised with homosexual parents, simply because it's not natural. I can totally understand anybody who is against homosexuality because it's usually for a very legitimate reason, however I don't have any problem with it myself. If two people of the same sex want to live together, that's fine with me, but I say the job of reproduction and parenting is to be done between a man and a woman, and that's the way it needs to stay. I think children should be raised with as little "radical" influences as possible... and I think at this point in society that would include homosexuality.

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[This message has been edited by Correction (edited April 02, 2004).]

this is what i dont get:

why change the definition of the word and all that complicated ness im confused...lemme get this straight


in america: everyone has to get a marriage liscence, eh? and its a legal thing. wehther or not you have the actual christian/muslim/jewish/hindu/buddhist (my ignorance goes on) wedding, you still have to get that liscence, last time i checked. whether or not you can convince a religious figure to wed you, is not the states problem or a religious problem orsomething that needs to be like a big problem. is it? im confused so if thers a reason someone explain it to me im not attackin anyone i just want to form an opinion if i dont know everything.
thanks

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Gay + Lesbian marriage = NO.

Lesbian porn = .... .... *hesitant*... no.

It's just wrong. From my psychotic Hitler-like view of society they aren't beneficial. If everyone was like that, the world's population would drop to 0 really fast.

Oh, and I happen to believe in the Bible. Somewhere in there it says it's wrong.

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Yeah, but everybody isn't like that, so it's a moot point. There are lots of things in society that aren't beneficial, no reason to single them out.

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Heh, like people.

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Against. Especially the ladybugs.

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And of course there is the whole fact that future gay and lesbians mostly are the result of an earlier encouter with an also gay individual... In a way it could be seen that the more homosexual couples we have and the more that wish to adopt... Then this theory could pan out. Although I think that sometime before then our self preservation would kick in and we'd realize whats going on. Of course the latter half of that (regarding the self preservation) could be worked around by simply using cloning tech since I mean we've thrown the morality regarding marriage eventually there is always the chance.


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Of course it's not ideal for a child to be raised by just one sex of parent..
strangely enough [insert statistic] percent of children are raised in single-parent homes.. does that mean they never see or interact with a parentalish figure of the other sex of their single parent.. qod i hope not. Many times they have uncles or friends of their parents or whatever who step in and help out with the parenting as it were, to round that out. The same applies for [insert statistic here] percent of homosexual couples who raise children.

I'm not entirely seeing the distinction.

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So many things lately. So many things. Always around and around the same subject, trying to change the subject to fit the mind. Trying to change other people to fit expectations. Stereotypes, sacrilege, tradition.

All subjective. All of it, not "both" sides but every side. They're just words, behaviors. Some things exist in all mammals. But no, we are not mammals. Holy, holy, holy! Dirt man ribs woman marriage. But don't touch me there. I don't like this thing, I am uncomfortable, disgusted. Put it away.

I don't care. You know? I don't. I had a long post that started making sense. Something cogent. Citations, papers, adnauseum.edu listing homosexual animals, 450+ species documented. But it is all refuted by what your parents told you, yes? Authority! Do what the TV tells you to do. Love cry shiver die. But above all, hate! Hate without direction or reservation. It became apparent how utterly hopeless this entire thing is and I became hostile. Incoherence is better than hostility, sometimes. So leave me alone. And please please please, for the sake of whatever you believe in, leave eachother alone too.