I grew up without ever knowing my father and never really having a father figure in my life, and guess what, I turned out fine.

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No, I'm not saying that only a one sex parental unit will screw you up... (Of course not using flexor as an example ) I'm saying that two parents of the same sex migtht screw someone up and possibly lead to them to the same lifestyle as their parents... I mean there has to be some reason why they would never be able to have kids together right? And no I'm not talking about couples that are of both sexes and cannot have kids, those couples I feel for and would encourage that they adopt.

Of course I say this in a society where there are a lot of parents who shouldn't be parents and the idea of a homosexual couple adopting some kids may seem to be the best choice. Society today just seems to have everything screwed up.

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Parents are one of the strongest influences on a kid's life, yes. However, I don't think parental sexual oreintation, in the end, is that influential -- gay people had to come from somewhere, and I can tell you that it wasn't the coupling of two homosexual people.

If a homosexual couple can do a good job of raising a kid, I see no real reason why they shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

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NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it

Hmm...

Introducing Microsoft Porn XXXP.
(Something else for MS to monopolize. )

True. It would also help those orphans get homes.

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[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited April 03, 2004).]

There are many, many children in orphanages whom no one will ever adopt. Generally they grow up feeling alone, unloved and alienated. Frankly, it is the least healthy environment for a child to grow up in. They grow up callous, detached and apathetic. Most will never experience the kind of parental love of both sexes that you refer to, nor any such love at all. Should they be denied the possibility of any kind of nurturing environment, just because society has deemed it unconventional or unnatural in their limited perspective?

Your argument would be valid were it not for the millions of orphans worldwide that will likely never have any parents.

Masq, you are a poetic genius.

[This message has been edited by Master Tonberry (edited April 03, 2004).]

Ok...MARRIAGE IS A RELIGIOUS THING.

If these gays wanna have a civil union or whatever, feel free, but they have NO RIGHT to be gettin married under god, when Christianity is clearly against homosexuality. It's wrong. I think this is the only good argument against it, and it's very good. You can hate homos all you want but that's not going to stand up in court. The simple fact is that marriage is the union of a MAN and a WOMAN under GOD, and that shouldn't be changed.

I'll say what I said in the other thread: If God is against homosexuality, then why would he acknowledge a homosexual marriage? If you think He wouldn't, then why care if they get married?

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Allow gays to get married under the law and allow the churches to determine if they want to marry them under god.

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Yeah, I'm definitely for lesbian porn, provided the parties involved are hot.

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The only reason gay people didn't come from gay couples is because there were no gay couples with kids a while ago. It's common sense that if a kid grows up with gay parents he's going to think its completely normal, and he will have a much larger chance of turning out gay. Theres no denying this.

And think of it if you were in the situation... would you rather be adopted by a gay couple or a normal couple? The kid would grow up confused and probably get teased at school for having gay parents.

I also agree that a mother and a father is the best way to ensure a good future for a kid. Many kids with problems have a single parent, which screws them up.

All I can say is this... they can do what they want it their choice but I'm sick of one thing... why do they have to flunt it.

Honestly these gay pride parides are rediculous and why can't we have streight day? Why must they practically rub their genetalia in our faces because we are streight? I mean honestly I respect their choice can't they respect mine? I choose to like girls... why must you flaught your choice infront of me... I really don't care.

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Right, because as we all know, marriage only exists in christianity.




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Exactly. I'm not religious at all... I still want to get married one day. It's a way of showing commitment to the person you love.

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Then there shouldn't be St. Patrick's day parades, ot Italian parades or anything else like that because they flaunt their views in front of you too.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Don't forget the santa parade!

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1) Homosexuality has existed for quite a long time prior to the increased acceptance of gay couples. Would you care to explain where the gay people from the past 3000+ years have gotten the idea?

2) I'm not sure why gay people should be held accountable for the fact that some people feel that they have some right to make someone's life a piece of crap simply because his or her parents are gay.

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the only thing having gay parents will end up with you feeling is sympathy and understanding for gay couples and youll be open to gay friends and family, and if youre gay you wont be afraid of it. it doesnt make you anymore gay unless youre forcing your orientation and if all things i think a gay couple(considering they fight for equality and understanding of all sexualities) would not in anyway make a home environment that would surpress you if you were straight...unless it was some homosexuality-only-nazi-like-couple.

its just like my boyfriends parents. ones black ones white. hes half and half and now hes dating a pakistani girl whos half kashmiri and half pakistani. its just a coincidence that his parents have an interracial relationship and we do too, his brother is dating a white girl. the thing is, the officialness of your parental unit's bond has very little affect on what kind of bond you WANT. it only affects what you accept and treat wiht respect or what you dont.

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I don't really care, they can do what they want. It shouldn't be plastered all over the news.

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[This message has been edited by Trigger Happy Chewie (edited April 03, 2004).]

Exsactly my point!

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

Yeh but when God made the bible he had no idea he'd make Orlando Bloom 2000 years later

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

What was meant by "unnatural purposes"?


-Fox

All I know is my GIRLFRIEND can keep me for as many unatural purposes as she wants.

//puts on leather suit... come get some baby and don't forget the handcuffs

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XL7 wuz here.

well he didnt bold that part so maybe you need to do some of your own research

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Mine has it written a tad more clearly:



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"LC Tusken: the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot"
NMGOH || Jack Chick preaches it

*Hugs Kieran* Actually, there is. Don't you realize that probably all homosexuals had heterosexual parents?

Let me ask a question: When you had your first crush on a girl, had your parents or anyone ever told you beforehand "Heterosexual is right, homosexual is wrong."? Probably not. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like you're saying that simply having a single parent screws you up. If so, I'd like to see some kind of source confirming this. I wasn't aware that those parades had anything to do with sex (or sexual orientation).

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"Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like you're saying that simply having a single parent screws you up. If so, I'd like to see some kind of source confirming this. "

I'm not saying having a single parent screws you up. I'm just saying it can. The healthiest environment for a child is one with a mother and a father.

Having a mother and a father can screw you up too... I mean Hitler had a mother and father and look how he turned out.

I really can't see how that arguement works, sure it *can* screw you up but anything can potentially screw you up.

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Ah, the Hitler card is finally drawn.

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"Egotist: a person more interested in himself than in me."
"And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up."

Well I was only trying to point out the flaw in his arguement

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Dude, read the rules, you are no longer allowed to disect people's posts. Also, I think I noticed a breach of godwins law somewhere in there.

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Hmmm...

Why not osama bin ladin( he was disowned by his family)

There are also numerous criminals that you could have mentioned as well.

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Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
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Da Rules say nothing about "disecting" other people's posts.
However, the anouncements say you shouldn't act like a moderator.

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[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited April 04, 2004).]

Actually, he became corrupt because of anger. He was considered a genius when he was young, and applied for some scientific art school. But they declined his submission, and he got really pissed off. Thus, the journey of Hitler began.

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"The least they could do is kill my food before I eat it." - Cale

Although my name represents one of my favorite songs, in a way it also explains my actual person, a Cosmic Castaway!

This is exactly how this shall be treated.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
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where the hell is the proof of that.

If it is not a well know and reliable research organisation, I will take it as propaganda.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
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That is only a few people in real life. Gay pride parades are to show that they wont give in to the abuse they recieve from people like you.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
Snail racing: (500 posts per line)-@%

Also, why is it that american's want to keep the church out of the government, yet when it comes to something like that, they want somthing in because it is in the bible.

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your curiosity will get the better of YOU one day.
Jon`C:Irony is spelling 'quality' poorly.
Spork:Well I think 'Irony is spelling grammar poorly'
Snail racing: (500 posts per line)-@%

Yeah, funny isn't it.

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