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Republican Voter Fraud
2004-10-13, 3:30 PM #1
Read it and weep.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2004/0921/local/stories/02local.htm
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail2817.cfm?Id=22,35248
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/base/news-8/1097647496301300.xml&storylist=orlocal
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 3:34 PM #2
Whoo hoo! *pulls out champagne and pops the cork* This election day is going to be a cluster**** of incompetence and bull**** partisan politics like it was 4 years ago! Party!
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-10-13, 3:37 PM #3
I hope your not just now figuring this out? I kinda expected it to be common after the last election.
obviously you've never been able to harness the power of cleavage...

maeve
2004-10-13, 3:40 PM #4
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The focus of the story is a private registration company called Voters Outreach of America.


They aren't blaming the Republican Party at this point, so don't get too excited.
"Flowers and a landscape were the only attractions here. And so, as there was no good reason for coming, nobody came."
2004-10-13, 3:40 PM #5
Such an excellent demonstration of responsibility... :rolleyes:
May the mass times acceleration be with you.
2004-10-13, 3:42 PM #6
Quote:
Originally posted by Bobbert006
They aren't blaming the Republican Party at this point, so don't get too excited.
Don't worry, it'll happen. If Kerry loses, it'll be plastered all over the media, whither it's true or not.

Screw elections. Rule by the sword! *marches off with his legions of Triarii to go conquer the Gaulic territories*
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2004-10-13, 3:46 PM #7
Triarii > Carthiginian Elephants.
D E A T H
2004-10-13, 3:47 PM #8
Quote:
Originally posted by Kieran Horn
Don't worry, it'll happen. If Kerry loses, it'll be plastered all over the media, whither it's true or not.

Screw elections. Rule by the sword! *marches off with his legions of Triarii to go conquer the Gaulic territories*


It's funny you should mention that... I've been doing the exact same thing lately. The last two on the spanish peninsula are proving difficult. Just charge some cavalry, and once they start running, sick you war dogs on 'em. Works every time.
>>untie shoes
2004-10-13, 3:50 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by Bobbert006
They aren't blaming the Republican Party at this point, so don't get too excited.

The group that's doing this is Republican funded.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 3:51 PM #10
Quote:
Originally posted by Outlaw Torn
I hope your not just now figuring this out? I kinda expected it to be common after the last election.

I know, but I happen to have multiple cites for this one, and there can be no doubt about it.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 3:53 PM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
Read it and weep.


I would, but that line alone sounds like you are just being an *** looking for trouble :rolleyes:
2004-10-13, 3:57 PM #12
Quote:
Originally posted by finity5
I would, but that line alone sounds like you are just being an *** looking for trouble :rolleyes:


So sayeth the pot to the black kettle.
>>untie shoes
2004-10-13, 4:11 PM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
The group that's doing this is Republican funded.


Doesn't mean they knew about it or condone it
Pissed Off?
2004-10-13, 4:14 PM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by Kieran Horn
Don't worry, it'll happen. If Kerry loses, it'll be plastered all over the media, whither it's true or not.

Screw elections. Rule by the sword! *marches off with his legions of Triarii to go conquer the Gaulic territories*


Anyone remember that John Tieter thing?
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-10-13, 4:16 PM #15
I agree Kieran

Bush Vs. Kerry - Fox Celebrity Boxing
"His Will Was Set, And Only Death Would Break It"

"None knows what the new day shall bring him"
2004-10-13, 4:27 PM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by Schming
Anyone remember that John Tieter thing?


Vaguely. Could you remind us?
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2004-10-13, 4:47 PM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Doesn't mean they knew about it or condone it

I commend you for giving a good argument and not doing a drive by shot (like finity5).

You don't think that they should keep a closer watch on the activities of those they fund?
Why aren't they denouncing what's going on?

If the Democratic National Commision paid a group to register voters, and this group destroyed Republican registrations, you wouldn't think it was fishy?
Come on, you have to admit that you would. Right?
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 4:52 PM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by Gebohq
Vaguely. Could you remind us?

John Titor, a guy who claimed to be from the future.
I think he said something big would happen in 2004.

Anyway, I'm completely convinced he wasn't for real. But that would be for another thread. Go ahead and start one if you want, we'd be getting close to when his predictions could happen anyway.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 4:57 PM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by Kieran Horn
Screw elections. Rule by the sword! *marches off with his legions of Triarii to go conquer the Gaulic territories*


I just finished wiping Gaul off the map. Now we're trying to stretch into Germania and the Greek part of Turkey (we've pushed the Greeks off the Greek peninsula)

Too many rebellions in Africa, though. Lost a province. Dangit.

That's okay. Dissent = Crucifixion.
Frightening the very small and very old since 1952.
2004-10-13, 5:01 PM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by mscbuck
Bush Vs. Kerry - Fox Celebrity Boxing
Forget that, I say we have them fight to the death!
And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.
2004-10-13, 6:07 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
You don't think that they should keep a closer watch on the activities of those they fund?
Why aren't they denouncing what's going on?


They probably knew about this all along. I don't think they would fund something they are not aware about. (or they weren't too aware.) Lack of denouncing in order to not bring media attention?
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2004-10-13, 7:21 PM #22
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
If the Democratic National Commision paid a group to register voters, and this group destroyed Republican registrations, you wouldn't think it was fishy?
Come on, you have to admit that you would. Right?


It would be fishy no matter what party it's associated with. How could it be otherwise?
"Flowers and a landscape were the only attractions here. And so, as there was no good reason for coming, nobody came."
2004-10-13, 7:30 PM #23
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
You don't think that they should keep a closer watch on the activities of those they fund?
Why aren't they denouncing what's going on?

If the Democratic National Commision paid a group to register voters, and this group destroyed Republican registrations, you wouldn't think it was fishy?
Come on, you have to admit that you would. Right?


I agree.
Pissed Off?
2004-10-13, 7:48 PM #24
Both sides do it. For example, here in Wisconsin, voter fraud is close to an epidemic. Some speculate that Bush would have won WI, but there was massive voter fraud in Milwaukee. I loved the "Smokes vor Votes" program the Democrats had going here lol. But again, both sides do it, so what are you going to do?
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2004-10-13, 7:54 PM #25
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
I commend you for giving a good argument and not doing a drive by shot (like finity5).

You don't think that they should keep a closer watch on the activities of those they fund?
Why aren't they denouncing what's going on?

If the Democratic National Commision paid a group to register voters, and this group destroyed Republican registrations, you wouldn't think it was fishy?
Come on, you have to admit that you would. Right?


Ohh, poor little confused Frog! Did you not care to look into the RNC's statements on the issue? Why aren't they denouncing it?

“Anyone who engages in fraudulent voter registration activities should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Sounds like a denouncement to me.

http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4856
http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4864
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-13, 7:56 PM #26
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They probably knew about this all along. I don't think they would fund something they are not aware about. (or they weren't too aware.) Lack of denouncing in order to not bring media attention?

I think so too on both counts.

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It would be fishy no matter what party it's associated with. How could it be otherwise?

That was my point.

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I agree.

You do? That's good.

Now what?

I honestly do not take joy in this. If anyone finds any democratic election fraud, post it to this thread.

I don't think even Bush would condone this.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 7:59 PM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
If anyone finds any democratic election fraud, post it to this thread.


http://www.gop.com/media/voterfraudarticles.pdf
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-13, 8:15 PM #28
I didn't see any connections there to the democratic party.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 8:25 PM #29
I bet that happens all the time on both sides. Gore wouldn't allow the counting of the over seas ballots and started demanding the counting or ballots that were only dimpled or hanging. Although that effect could not be reproduced. And what with the mistakes due to hand counting, I bet he pretty much randomized the votes.
2004-10-13, 8:32 PM #30
Begun, the bull**** wars have.
D E A T H
2004-10-13, 8:41 PM #31
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
I didn't see any connections there to the democratic party.


They don't say one way or the other, but if you think only one side (not the parties themselves, but the fraud itself) does thngs like this, you are very naive.
Pissed Off?
2004-10-13, 9:04 PM #32
I don't see the democratic party sponsoring any cheating, so until I see some evidence, they indeed are not as bad as the Republicans.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-13, 9:25 PM #33
:rolleyes:

The Republican Party giving money to an organization doesn't mean they are sponsoring voter fraud if they didn't know about it.

Politics is a dirty game. Both sides either play dirty, or have groups that play dirty for them, whether the parties know about it or not.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/summit/1096018375266600.xml

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?articleID=1163&terms

http://www.command-post.org/2004/2_archives/010876.html

It happens on both sides
Pissed Off?
2004-10-13, 9:59 PM #34
Hmm, hadn't heard of John Titor before...

Seems phony to me though. Pictures look like something from the 70's, and some of his predictions that have happened are so vague that you could apply anything to it - kinda like some of Nostradameus.

Anyways, on topic, there is corruption on both sides. That's politics for ya.
2004-10-13, 10:04 PM #35
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
I don't see the democratic party sponsoring any cheating, so until I see some evidence, they indeed are not as bad as the Republicans.


You haven't provided any evidence that the Republican party is cheating either. You've merely made inferences based on a few cases that don't even provide enough evidence to show that its actually the Republican party doing it and not just some individual with a grudge. Both sides have extremists, democrats and republicans. That doesn't mean that every democrat/republican is an extremist, cheating, dirty liar.
Life is beautiful.
2004-10-14, 10:20 AM #36
Quote:
Originally posted by dry gear the frog
I don't see the democratic party sponsoring any cheating, so until I see some evidence, they indeed are not as bad as the Republicans.


You only see what you want to see. You have seen evidence of Republican sponsoring of cheating? FYI, you can search the document I linked to for words such as (gasp!) democrat and republican.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2004-10-14, 10:41 AM #37
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill
So sayeth the pot to the black kettle.


omg racism

I'm bored. :[
2004-10-14, 1:50 PM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Begun, the bull**** wars have.

I'm thinking yeah. I hope this year's election is just as stupid as last years. It should make for some interesting flame wars.
2004-10-14, 7:50 PM #39
Quote:
The Republican Party giving money to an organization doesn't mean they are sponsoring voter fraud if they didn't know about it.

Politics is a dirty game. Both sides either play dirty, or have groups that play dirty for them, whether the parties know about it or not.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plain...18375266600.xml

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/cg...=1163&terms

http://www.command-post.org/2004/2_archives/010876.html

It happens on both sides

I have a hard time buying that they didn't know about it.
None of your cites have anything to do with the democratic party, just individuals.

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You haven't provided any evidence that the Republican party is cheating either.

It said in at least one of the cites that the group is funded by the Republican party. This also happened in more than one state, it wasn't just an individual.

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You only see what you want to see. You have seen evidence of Republican sponsoring of cheating?

See my cites.

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FYI, you can search the document I linked to for words such as (gasp!) democrat and republican.

I tried and my computer crashed. How about you quote the relevant parts here.

Here it is again for those who are pretending that this isn't Republican funded:
http://www2.kval.com/x30530.xml?ParentPageID=x2649&ContentID=x47627&Layout=kval.xsl&AdGroupID=x30530
Quote:
A recent report says that a man paid to register voters was instructed to only accept Republican registration forms.

"Voters Outreach of America," the company he claims to work for, is largely bankrolled by the GOP.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-10-14, 9:12 PM #40
It's still a strecth to link that to the GOP. You're not asking questions like "who gave him money to only accept Republican registrations?" Hell, the guy could be lying for all we know. There's no way to tell he's telling the truth. What we have here, at this point, is a correlation, not a causation.

You're jumping to a conclusion without any facts to back it up at all. I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this, but just because the GOP gave the organization money, it does not mean they specifically told the organization to commit voter registration fraud. It does not mean the GOP knew about it. It really appears to be acts of a few over zealous individuals rahter than a party-wide conspiracy. Should they be punsihed, of course they should
Pissed Off?
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