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Cures for low self-esteem?
2004-04-06, 4:37 PM #1
This is not a personal problem. I view myself as the most awesome, kick-assest dude in the universe, but a close friend of mine suffers from extremely low self-esteem and it causes her (Yes, it's a girl surprised?) a lot of grief and hardship. What can I do to help? (And she's actually good looking and smart and kind and all that stuff, unlike most people these days.)
2004-04-06, 4:50 PM #2
Well, I don't know her exact situation, but I have crappy self-esteem myself, and the thing I think would most help me would be having friends who want to do stuff with me. I never get invited to go places or do anything...

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2004-04-06, 4:51 PM #3
"And she's actually good looking and smart and kind and all that stuff"

Tell her that...

There's only so much you can physically do, there will come a point will she will have to get out of it herself - without other people
2004-04-06, 4:54 PM #4
OMG A GIRL LOLOLOLOLOL

but seriously, just show her that she is really a good person and that she means alot to other people and that she can do anything she wants to do

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2004-04-06, 4:56 PM #5
Telling her would do wonders. Just be like "You look fantastic today!", be sure not to make them in a like "ohh... sex" way though, unless that's another goal you have.

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2004-04-06, 4:59 PM #6
What does she have low self-esteem about? ANYthing? Or just things like looks, or smarts, or whatever else?


I dunno..

When you have the opportunity just make little comments to make her feel good or something. Like for example say for some reason she says she "likes how this other girls hair was that day" say you like hers better.


Just small comments about anything, even the dumbest thing can make a person feel good about themselves..

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2004-04-06, 5:02 PM #7
See, the problem is I try all that and I get stuff like
"Oh yeah, name one thing I'm good at"
"Drawing"
"All my drawings suck"

or

"You look good today"
"Oh yeah? Says who"
"Well I think you look good"
"Well you're the only one."
2004-04-06, 5:11 PM #8
I dunno if you're like this or if shes the type of girl you can be more friendly or whatever with, but try just calling her a hotty and stuff or something everytime she says shes not.

"You look good today"
"Oh yeah? Says who"
"Well I think you look good"
"Well you're the only one."

No I'm not, you're a hotty/cutey/whatever else! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] (include the smile!)

Eventually its bound to make her feel a little better.. Or if you're out some place tell her "that guy just checked you out" and stuff


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2004-04-06, 5:15 PM #9
Then bark at her.

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2004-04-06, 5:15 PM #10
Maybe she doesn't know how to be prideful... show her how it works!

"You look good today!"
"Says who?"
"I do."
"Well you're the only one."
"Oh yeah, the only one that counts, baby!"

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2004-04-06, 5:15 PM #11
Then go grab some stranger, put a gun discreetly to his back and tell him to play along, and bring him along and make him tell her she looks fantastic.

"Doesn't <girl's name> look fantastic? Doesn't she? DOESN'T SHE??"
"Y-y-y-yes! You look f-f-f-f-fan-fantastic! Don't hurt me.."


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2004-04-06, 5:20 PM #12
She needs to get laid.
2004-04-06, 5:39 PM #13
Why dont you help her then, Hurricane?

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2004-04-06, 5:59 PM #14
Ubuu, much love. haha

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2004-04-06, 6:10 PM #15
Yeah, hook her up.

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2004-04-06, 6:40 PM #16
Hit it like a caveman!
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2004-04-06, 11:10 PM #17
That might hurt a little bit

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2004-04-06, 11:14 PM #18
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ubuu:
Why dont you help her then, Hurricane?
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I would, but I don't wanna stir your porridge. Ha..ha...ha.
2004-04-07, 12:08 AM #19
A lot of guys dont realize that girls react to depression and sadness much differently than guys do. Guys tend to distract themselves with hobbies and other things when they are feeling down, while girls tend to dwell on their depression. Girls need to hit rock bottom before they can start improving; trying to explain to them how irrational they are being and why they shouldnt feel depressed will only make them feel worse and prolong the process. The best thing that you can do is to just be there for her as she goes through this process, listen to her, and tell her that you understand what she is going through (even if you dont). This will make her feel alot better... Sometimes girls need a good cry now and then, and they usually feel a lot better afterwards.

I also agree with what other people have said; see to it that she gets included in activities with you and your friends. Call her up, ask her if she wants to hang out, go to the movies or something.

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2004-04-07, 6:26 AM #20
Give her attention if she doesn't already have it.

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2004-04-07, 9:19 AM #21
Give her a kiss and a cuddle.
Tell her she's wonderful.

If it were me, i'd draw attention to my own particular crap life in comparison to hers (most have better lives), and say something to make her laugh. Friend or lover, it doesnt matter
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2004-04-07, 10:59 AM #22
I already have a girlfriend so... I can't exactly do a lot of the stuff you folks are suggesting
2004-04-07, 11:06 AM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hurricane:
She needs to get laid. </font>


God, people here can be real idiots...

Honestly, I'm not so sure there's a whole lot you can do for her, unfortunately. The problem with low self esteem is that she's going to TRY and pick out something wrong with herself, no matter what you say. I know how that feels, and I'm sure most everybody here does (admit it, we've all had times like that. maybe they didn't last as long, but every human being has felt that way at one point.)
Most of the suggestions given have been good ones, and I'd follow through with them and hope for the best, but chances are they're not going to help a whole lot. Maybe she just wants the attention (because that's exactly how I get when I'm feeling attention-deprived... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]) and if that's the case, she probably needs it. Spend a lot of time with her - make her feel accepted, like people want to be around her. I think that's probably about all you can do... :\

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2004-04-07, 12:44 PM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by clan ruthervain:


If it were me, i'd draw attention to my own particular crap life in comparison to hers (most have better lives), and say something to make her laugh. Friend or lover, it doesnt matter
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I would, but frankly I can't because I have an excellent life, really. I've got a girl and lots of friends, good family, good marks... Anything else that I can do to help a friend besides having sex with her (Real mature guys [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif] )

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2004-04-07, 12:53 PM #25
Go out with her to occasions where alcohol flows

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2004-04-07, 1:38 PM #26
(oops, double post)
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2004-04-07, 1:39 PM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">When you have the opportunity just make little comments to make her feel good or something...Just small comments about anything, even the dumbest thing can make a person feel good about themselves..</font>


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"You look good today!"
"Says who?"
"I do."
"Well you're the only one."
"Oh yeah, the only one that counts, baby!" </font>
(that'll will probably make her laugh too)

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Sometimes girls need a good cry now and then, and they usually feel a lot better afterwards. </font>


just pointing out some of what I tihnk is excellent advice

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2004-04-07, 2:22 PM #28
so what if she has problems? you have problems of your own, everyone does. It's her life, let her deal with it just like you have to deal with your own. HMany chicks are usually morbidly insecure-- it's how they are. There's nothing you could do about it really, so just leave it alone. It's not like giving sympathy makes any real problems go away.

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2004-04-07, 2:24 PM #29
Some of us have concerns outside ourselves.
2004-04-07, 2:32 PM #30
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrakenX:
Some of us have concerns outside ourselves.</font>



I realize that, but i've found it to be more effective when you teach people how to solve their own problems instead of just giving them an ego boost. (which ultimately doesn't help them in the long run).



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2004-04-07, 2:33 PM #31
You know how a lot of people solve their own problems? Suicide. Good work Captain Tact.
2004-04-07, 2:34 PM #32
That was very inconsiderate of you to say Pagewizard. If he has an excelent life, then why not help other people get what he has?

You have a girlfriend, so theres not much you can do, except the little things. Which were previously mentioned.

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2004-04-07, 2:39 PM #33
Well, you have to want to be helped for the help to actually help

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2004-04-07, 2:43 PM #34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Trigger Happy Chewie:
That was very inconsiderate of you to say Pagewizard. If he has an excelent life, then why not help other people get what he has?


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Of course. Except why give it to them when you can help them more in the long run by teaching them how to do it for themselves? You should encourage them at first of course, but gradually people should learn how to become self-sufficient.

I am very seldfom plagued by problems because I've learned how to tackle each objective and find solutions on my own rather than depending on other people for support. Surely you would agree that that is a better way.

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2004-04-07, 2:46 PM #35
. . . emotional problems don't work like that. You, of all people, show know this, being the smart, attractive, friendly, and all around great guy that you so much claim to be.

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Do you have stairs in your house?
2004-04-07, 2:48 PM #36
most people are plagued with multiple problems/obstacles in their lives, whether or not they are self-sufficient

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2004-04-07, 2:49 PM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
. . . emotional problems don't work like that.

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then by all means explain.

I used to be plagued with it myself years and years ago, but then everything changed and I became who I am now. If you take to mind what I've been telling you, then none of these problems will ever be able to touch you again.



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2004-04-07, 2:50 PM #38
Because, like I said, she may just feel attention-deprived, and if that's the case, she IS trying to solve it herself... by drawing attention to herself.

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2004-04-07, 2:55 PM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
Because, like I said, she may just feel attention-deprived, and if that's the case, she IS trying to solve it herself... by drawing attention to herself.

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to solve these self-esteem problems, drawing attention to yourself is a temporary solution at best. Ultimately it does nothing to help you, and you come to rely on the attention that other people give you to feel good about yourself. Without it, you feel like oyu have no purpose.

The only permanent solution is to completely rebuild your personality from the ground up like i did. I threw aside everything that I used to be, and i isolated the traits that I wanted to master. I then worked at improving myself for three long years, and gradually, I became what I always wanted to be. It's not an easy process, but it can be done if someone is willing to put aside everything that they know and are willing to change how they think and view life.


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2004-04-07, 2:58 PM #40
I think he just wants his friend to feel better about herself, not become a totally different person. we're kind of talking 2 different things here

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