. . . and it blew me away.

Wow, that movie was incredible, whenver anyone points to the Matrix in the future, I will have to recommend they see this movie as well. Simply spectacular, and at the same time almost completely unknown. I only saw it because it was on some ShowTime channel on DirecTV, which we get free until Christmas as a gift for our first year with them (if they think we're handing out big bucks to keep these channels, they're mistaken though ).

Anyway, the gun scenes were mesmerizing, the plot was exilirating, and the elements of 1984, Minority Report, Blade Runner, and more were so well played out. For anyone who has not seen this movie, I would highly suggest you do.

Butl ooking deeper into the actual movie, I'm curious though, if there was no emotion, why did Taye Diggs' character seem so punk and cocky. I saw him smile several times, and he seemed to be taking a great deal of pleasure in seeing Preston suffer. I also noticed that the "Father" guy whom Preston duels with at the end, pounded his fist on the table at one point and seemed to yell out of rage. With him, I'm guessing he wasn't actually taking the drugs himself, maybe he just wanted a horde of zombies to carry out his will, but that still doesn't explain Taye Diggs. Surely, even the higher ranking officers, wouldn't be allowed the luxury of emotion? Anyone else got any thoughts on this?

It's just the extremities of emotion that are suppressed.

*Spoiler warning for those of you who haven't seen it and would ***** about someone giving away the ending...*

"Father" admits to being a sense offender at the end just before he's killed doesn't he?

I loved Equilibrium. Entertained me from sart to finish.

Great movie. Critics suck.

The only reason those characters partially portrayed emotion is because we cannot comprehend no emotion.

I have yet to see it.

Watch it if only for the action scene. I love the idea of a martial arts based on dual hand guns (gun kata). I liked the movie overall too, why didn't the critics like it?

My sister has the DVD. I watched it one night because I was bored. Wached it a second time a half hour later. Have seen it three or four more times since. <3.

I bought that movie last weekend finally. I had seen it last year but finally got the DVD. My friend Chris and I went to Wal-Mart in this little hick town we were visiting, apparently all the cool people hang out there, and we got alot of alcohol, Family Guy DVD and this movie. I kept this movie for myself.

If I start off wanting to like a movie I usually do. I even thought the Matrix sequels were awesome.

Equilibrium sucked so badly I could not force myself to like it. The plot was composed of fairly standard Hollywood elements, the setting was derivative and the twists at the end were horribly corny. It was empty. It reminded me of a short story written by a teenaged pseudointellectual who just read 1984 for his English class. Incredibly awesome fight scenes barely saved the movie.

I thought it was a terrible movie.

The gunfights were ridiculous. Impossible. Gun-kata my ***. The Colt XM-177 (the full auto version of the M16)has a 12 round per second fire rate. There were about 25 guys during that last firefight. If they were using the XM (what the were using looked similar), they would be throwing out over 300 rounds, per second. I don't care who you are, you can't dodge 300 rounds in a second. The face scene is the end is too ridiculous to comment on. I know I'm getting technical and "it's just a movie", but my point is that it is a stupid movie, with an awful plot, terribly idiotic action scenes, and poor acting.

I really can't see how anyone but early-pubescent teenage boys could find the movie entertaining. I found it nearly painful.

*spoiler warning again*

Taye Diggs was faking it, remember?

For knowing alot about guns...you sure did miss some obviousness. They weren't using XM's, they were using G36Ks. I think you only even see an M16 variant at one part in the film, but I don't think they ever used them against sense offenders.

Anyways, the gun kata was done by studying stastics of bullet trajectories to a middle target.

You also must remember...it's a movie, the atomatom soldiers need the plot device in order to be able to hit the main character.

Quite an extreme appraisal with absolutely no facts or examples to back it up.

Sounds like an alarmist critic to me.

Friends showed it at a party, haven't looked back since. Loved the movie -- the Matrix meets Farhenheit 451.

If you go into a movie trying to like it then why would you pick it apart? I liked everything except the face scene.

Fixed. And quoted for truth.

The face scene, are you talking about the smile Preston made at the end, or the scene where Taye Diggs gets his faced chopped off?

SPOILARS CLOUD SPOILARS!!



Where he chops off the dude's face ie underworld.

I loved the movie right up until the very end. The ending sucked, horribly. It wasnt even interesting, action-wise.

Father has always been feeling. This is why his room is filled with art and color. You may not have noticed, but everything else in the Equilibrium world was black, white, and grey, except father's room, which was filled with art and granite and such. So yes, he was feeling.

Equilibrium does have one major, huge plot hole though, but it really does ruin the movie for everyone who likes it and so I won't point it out.

It's an opinion, Farix. Honestly, I'm just disappointed the movie never did anything with its premise. I mean, making people take emotion-surpressing pills could have been replaced with practically any standard authortarian oppression without changing the plot.

Where are some people getting the matrix from? Guns and the black suits? Gasp. Didn't even ripoff the bullet-time effect., which makes the movie even greater.

Um... nos.

You'd have to change pretty much every scene.

Did it have to do with guns? Because I think I noticed that too.

Yep, I think it does.

Oh yeah. When I'd finished watching it the first time around, I thought "wait a minute...I must remember it wrong." Then I watched it again and there it was... :p

Someone PM it to me, I feel left out.

Add me to the PM list.

It's when he "switches" guns with Taye Diggs' character and the other guy doesn't realize it. Diggs hands Bale his gun to kill some guys, but Bale hands the gun back to him. At the end when Bale is being arrested, he looks down and has Bale's gun on his side instead of his own, cause they were switched. The thing was, Bale killed all the security guys before he switched guns.

Is that right?

And yeah when you look at the movie throughout it, you can see Diggs' character keeps showing emotion OVER and OVER and OVER before they finally reveal it at the end.

The way I interpret it, is that Preston kills them all and then gives his gun to Diggs, thus it looks like Diggs tried to frame Preston by killing them with Preston's gun.

One question that was never answered back in my Equilibrium thread was how Preston made the guns fall out from his sleeves. Yes I know he has these forearm holsters inside his coat, but how does he make the gun fall out from the holsters?

Magic.

Well its not shown in the movie but you can probably design a mechanism that can have them slide out like that. Lord knows they had to make one for those scenes.

Spring loaded holsters like that have been around for over 100 years.

Yeah, never seen magazines pop out though. That was cool.

Ever seen "Taxi Driver"?

No, do they use a similar device in the movie? If so, how does the user activate it?