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San Andreas
2004-10-25, 2:42 PM #1
Begins shipping today; let us reserve this thread for reviews and "constructive"(sic?) criticism. As far as I know, there's a 2-player mode which allows you to roam freely and play minigames (no missions.) Lotsa other nifty new things as well. So, let us hear your... Jargon.
Moo.
2004-10-25, 2:52 PM #2
Ya at my local Fry's they are having it on sale tommorrow.
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2004-10-25, 3:00 PM #3
I can't wait to murder Rockstar for pumping out this crappy repetitive game...I mean, I'm not interested in San Andres.

GTA III - This is cool..for 20 mins...errr, drive....drive....shoot....drive.

GTA: VC - Sequel?! Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a larger city then in GTA:III!!

GTA: SA - Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a bigger area..but I also need to make sure my guy eats 3 times a day, and doesn't get fat...and wow...this seems like more of a chore then a game...It's still the same crap as GTA: VC just with a few more special features...just like VC was III with a few more extras....why do I buy these games and allow Rockstar to make more money? GTA vs. The Sims = GTA: SA.

Then again I hated the Sims. YOU ARE PLAYING A FAKE LIFE! THAT IS PATHETIC! Very boring too. Oh look! My Sim is taking a crap! Oh now he's watching TV, this is so exciting, HOLY CRAP NOW HE'S SLEEPING!!!! I can't wait for the 17 expansions!
Think while it's still legal.
2004-10-25, 3:09 PM #4
I don't see how you can compare The Sims to Grand Theft Auto. :rolleyes: You couldn't run people over with combines in The Sims, unless of course you bought The Sims: Farm Equipment expansion pack.
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2004-10-25, 3:10 PM #5
I mean the fact that you need to take care of your character in San Andres almost like you'd take care of a Sim.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-10-25, 3:11 PM #6
Gonna pick it up in... an hour!
2004-10-25, 3:11 PM #7
I'm waiting for the PC version.
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2004-10-25, 3:35 PM #8
I've already talked to people who have played it. So much stuff you can do. I'm really looking forward to it. Buahaha.
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 3:41 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
I can't wait to murder Rockstar for pumping out this crappy repetitive game...I mean, I'm not interested in San Andres.

GTA III - This is cool..for 20 mins...errr, drive....drive....shoot....drive.

GTA: VC - Sequel?! Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a larger city then in GTA:III!!

GTA: SA - Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a bigger area..but I also need to make sure my guy eats 3 times a day, and doesn't get fat...and wow...this seems like more of a chore then a game...It's still the same crap as GTA: VC just with a few more special features...just like VC was III with a few more extras....why do I buy these games and allow Rockstar to make more money? GTA vs. The Sims = GTA: SA.

Then again I hated the Sims. YOU ARE PLAYING A FAKE LIFE! THAT IS PATHETIC! Very boring too. Oh look! My Sim is taking a crap! Oh now he's watching TV, this is so exciting, HOLY CRAP NOW HE'S SLEEPING!!!! I can't wait for the 17 expansions!


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In other words. I concur.
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2004-10-25, 4:24 PM #10
You guys really need to play more RPGs.

It's just adding another dimension into character development. Like when you get shot, you lose health. You have to find a health pack or something. OH NO! you have to look after your character! shock horror! A game isn't any fun if you rush through it in God mode.

Strictly linear, storyline-driven games are only fun if they have a really good storyline, ala Max Payne. Vice City was pseudo linear, in that you could go around shooting anyone, but to actually achieve anything you had to follow the set storyline (same as Postal 2). I'm thinking (and hoping) San Andreas is going to be more freeform than that, more akin to GTA2. But totally freeform games need guidelines. Not rules, not objectives per se (unless they're really vague objectives), but guidelines. So not telling you what you must do and how you must do it, but rather what you should do and leaving it up to you. That's what this eating thing will do. It'll also be a good money sink. Throughout the latter half of Vice City, I had ridiculous amounts of money, more money than I could ever use, so this will give you something else you have to spend your money on, so you'll have less money, so money will be more valuable.
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2004-10-25, 4:28 PM #11
I don't think that line of reasoning makes much sense. Hit points are a necessary element in gameplay that add suspense. If you get killed, it'll set you back a little bit, so it's in your best interest to not let that happen. A little excitement. But having to eat? Sure, not eating will kill your character as well. But how is it fun? It's not. It's a chore in what is supposed to be a game. The reason hit points exist is because you're having fun getting all shot up.
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2004-10-25, 4:30 PM #12
I cannot wait to get my hands on this game. As for the people who don't like the series, that's on less person I have to worry about getting a copy before me, plus you suck. :D (That is in no way serious. You can dislike of you choose ;))
Pissed Off?
2004-10-25, 4:31 PM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
I can't wait to murder Rockstar for pumping out this crappy repetitive game...I mean, I'm not interested in San Andres.

GTA III - This is cool..for 20 mins...errr, drive....drive....shoot....drive.

GTA: VC - Sequel?! Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a larger city then in GTA:III!!


You just defined almost every gun action game ever made. Except in the other ones you can't drive cars. :p
2004-10-25, 4:33 PM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
I cannot wait to get my hands on this game. As for the people who don't like the series, that's on less person I have to worry about getting a copy before me, plus you suck. :D (That is in no way serious. You can dislike of you choose ;))


That's me.
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 4:35 PM #15
I loved GTA2 all the way through to VC, and I can't wait to try SA.
2004-10-25, 4:40 PM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by TheJkWhoSaysNi
I'm waiting for the PC version.


ditto.... I don't own any consoles. My 1980's- era TV doesn't support them.

besides, pc versions of games always look better, unless it was merely ported from the console version with no improvements .
2004-10-25, 4:48 PM #17
Quote:
You just defined almost every gun action game ever made. Except in the other ones you can't drive cars.


Uhhh, no.

-Levels
-Endbosses
-Enemy variation
-Variation in gameplay
-NOT BORING AS CRAP
-Tactics/Thought (Not just running over people and shooting them like nuts)
-A change in ANYTHING...maybe from sequel to sequel.
-etc..etc...
Think while it's still legal.
2004-10-25, 4:52 PM #18
Yes, because you know, everyone thinks GTA is boring as crap, and everything gets boring within minutes.

Oh no wait, that's just a select few.

I personally can play GTA for hours. I've loved it since the first.
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 5:02 PM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
Uhhh, no.

-Levels
-Endbosses
-Enemy variation
-Variation in gameplay
-NOT BORING AS CRAP
-Tactics/Thought (Not just running over people and shooting them like nuts)
-A change in ANYTHING...maybe from sequel to sequel.
-etc..etc...


The have imporved the combat system in SA to be like tha of Manhunt. They have also included better hand to hand combat, new combat that can be learned over time and squad control over fellow gang members.

VC had bosses.

Levels in open ended gameplay games make no sense.

And I find it funny that you want changes to make the game different. Rockstar has done that by making the game more character oriented and requirng the player to pay attention to the character, yet those aren't changes in your mind.
Pissed Off?
2004-10-25, 5:14 PM #20
9.6 is GameSpot's score.

Quote:
Probably the best part about the game's stat system is that it's all extremely subtle. It would be easy for something like exercise and eating to monopolize the game, but in practice you really don't have to think about it. All you really see is a quick pop-up in the upper left-hand corner of the screen whenever a stat changes, and if it's changed enough to make a big difference, the game offers a text description of what has changed and what that means for you.


What do you nay sayers have to say to that?
2004-10-25, 5:14 PM #21
<3 Avenger.
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 5:32 PM #22
It got a 9.9 over at ps2.ign.
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2004-10-25, 5:35 PM #23
Didn't IGN give HL2 a 9.8? Or have they reviewed it yet.
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 6:07 PM #24
Now wait... people can claim that every other sequel to a console game is omgsweet, yet when GTA releases a sequel, suddenly it's just the same old thing? No. GTA is a revolutionary concept in gaming, and they're only improving it. Seriously, if you get no enjoyment from sitting down to SA, than you obviously sat down with a bias before you even played. You can say that it didn't hold your attention for long, you can even say you didn't like the game. But if you think it's BORING... than you are lying, or never gave the game a chance in the first place.

I personally liked GTA 2 the best. It was revolutionary back then, yet no one gave it any props. Only when it goes 3D is it suddenly different...

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2004-10-25, 6:28 PM #25
Yay! I never played GTA III, but I played Vice City, and damn, do I want SA now. :D
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2004-10-25, 6:49 PM #26
If I could play this game, I'd make my character as fat as possible, and call him Gangsta the Hutt.

Please, someone tell me, can I eat my victims?
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2004-10-25, 6:51 PM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master

-Variation in gameplay
-Tactics/Thought (Not just running over people and shooting them like nuts)


i thought sajn was one of the people here who loves painkiller
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2004-10-25, 6:58 PM #28
Haha. Yeah...

I dunno, I don't feel the need for a console anymore--just found out I can hook up my PC to my TV...in my ROOM. :)
D E A T H
2004-10-25, 7:08 PM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master

GTA: SA - Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a bigger area..but I also need to make sure my guy eats 3 times a day, and doesn't get fat...and wow...this seems like more of a chore then a game...It's still the same crap as GTA: VC just with a few more special features...just like VC was III with a few more extras....why do I buy these games and allow Rockstar to make more money? GTA vs. The Sims = GTA: SA.


You don't HAVE to take care of your character. I have my copy alrady from a good friend of mine at Best Buy/Gamestop. you don't have to eat three times a day. Hell, I don't eat hardly at all. Eating is really there when you are low on health, and you can stop at a pizza place for energy.

And what do you mean "now I can drive and shoot in a bigger area". The GTA games have some of the best voice acting in any game, the best stories in any game, some of the best graphics for console games, and the best gameplay.

Also, last I knew, whole freaken states can be quite large. It is supremely unrealisitic if a state that is supposed to represent Los Angeles, San francisco, and Las Vegas, only takes 1 minute to drive through.

There are so many more gameplay elements in San Andreas than you can wink an eye at. It's hardly an expansion back to the Sims, like you so described. There's such an extreme amount of stuff that you dont' have to do, but it's so freaken fun to do.

The freedom to drive around and shoot abyody you want is what makes the game so great. I hate games that confine you to small areas and you can only do what will make progress in the game's story.

In san Andreas, you can do pretty much anything you want, whenever you want, without having to worry about missions to be comleted. I dont' see why that makes a game so awful...
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2004-10-25, 7:18 PM #30
They made taking character seem like a bigger deal than it will actually be... I'll play it at someone else's house before I buy it.
2004-10-26, 6:33 AM #31
Quote:
Oh look! My Sim is taking a crap!


ROFLMFAO!!!
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2004-10-26, 9:10 AM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
I can't wait to murder Rockstar for pumping out this crappy repetitive game...I mean, I'm not interested in San Andres.

GTA III - This is cool..for 20 mins...errr, drive....drive....shoot....drive.

GTA: VC - Sequel?! Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a larger city then in GTA:III!!

GTA: SA - Nice! Now I can drive and shoot in a bigger area..but I also need to make sure my guy eats 3 times a day, and doesn't get fat...and wow...this seems like more of a chore then a game...It's still the same crap as GTA: VC just with a few more special features...just like VC was III with a few more extras....why do I buy these games and allow Rockstar to make more money? GTA vs. The Sims = GTA: SA.

Then again I hated the Sims. YOU ARE PLAYING A FAKE LIFE! THAT IS PATHETIC! Very boring too. Oh look! My Sim is taking a crap! Oh now he's watching TV, this is so exciting, HOLY CRAP NOW HE'S SLEEPING!!!! I can't wait for the 17 expansions!


Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
Uhhh, no.

-Levels
-Endbosses
-Enemy variation
-Variation in gameplay
-NOT BORING AS CRAP
-Tactics/Thought (Not just running over people and shooting them like nuts)
-A change in ANYTHING...maybe from sequel to sequel.
-etc..etc...


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2004-10-26, 9:17 AM #33
I'll buy it, ive always like the GTA games, and it'll probably take me a few months before i get bored... But i have to wait till they start selling it here on Friday
nope.
2004-10-26, 9:54 AM #34
I'l play it anyway, just because I coincidentally hate everyone who bashed it.
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2004-10-26, 10:02 AM #35
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2004-10-26, 10:13 AM #36
I liked GTA3, but VC was crap. Either that or I grew up and realized the exact same thing as SAJN. THE GAME IS UTTER CRAP!

I'll probably get SA, just I'm not paying more than $20 for any game these days. Unless it's Call of Duty.

of course, i'm the guy addicted to Fistful of Boomstick so... ya.
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2004-10-26, 10:28 AM #37
I liked VC a lot more than GTA3. Maybe it was the story. Or the missions. Or maybe the fact that the music has a hell of a lot better :p
2004-10-26, 11:13 AM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by MaD CoW
I liked VC a lot more than GTA3. Maybe it was the story. Or the missions. Or maybe the fact that the music has a hell of a lot better :p


eeew, you liked the music in VC?
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2004-10-26, 11:27 AM #39
I am waiting for the PC realease only because my roomates are saving up for an Xbox and Halo 2. We do have a PS2 but I dont want to buy the game, when the PS2 isnt mine, and I dont get to keep it when I move out. I may rent it or something.
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2004-10-26, 12:45 PM #40
I'll be getting it when it's released for Xbox.
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