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Meat: Part I
2004-11-16, 9:25 PM #1
Post your reasons too please.
2004-11-16, 9:27 PM #2
Mainly I don't eat it because I just don't like the way it tastes. But I also realize the environmental impact it has. Pepperoni pizzas are too good to resist though. :D
2004-11-16, 9:43 PM #3
rawr!
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tofu sucks
2004-11-16, 9:45 PM #4
Meat is good. I can't get enough of it.
2004-11-16, 9:58 PM #5
I tend to stay away from Red Meats but I'll eat them occaisionally. I much prefer Chicken to Hamburgers.
2004-11-16, 10:12 PM #6
I try to stay away from meat because it's healthier to eat vegetarian if you do it correctly. But I love meat, so I eat it when it's there.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-11-16, 10:13 PM #7
Meat is teh awesome.
2004-11-16, 10:14 PM #8
I eat everything except seafood. Meat is yummy.
Warhead[97]
2004-11-16, 10:16 PM #9
There needs to be a omnivour option there because I eat meat, I also like a good dose of vegetables to go with my yummy meat.
Pissed Off?
2004-11-16, 10:21 PM #10
Veggies don't fill me up, meat does.
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2004-11-16, 10:26 PM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by THRAWN
Solid food don't fill me up, beer does.


Fixed all hick like.
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2004-11-16, 10:28 PM #12
I like that. :D
Pissed Off?
2004-11-16, 10:37 PM #13
Meat because it's delicious.
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2004-11-16, 11:26 PM #14
Meat... mmmm... all that juicy, tender, proteiny goodness... I need more meat...
Stuff
2004-11-17, 2:18 AM #15
I don't believe a meal is complete without meat. Something would just be missing, and I would miss that missing part a little bit too much. Besides, predators are always smarter than the prey...
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2004-11-17, 2:56 AM #16
Hm i seem to be the solitary granola on the polls so far.
I was about to say salad-shooter except my diet tends to be rather low on vegetables and fruits per se.

In fact the majority of it consists of breads, pastas, things of this nature, along with rices and other grains [cereal], and the various tvp sorts of things. And the obligatory cheese or yoghurt now and then [mm swiss cheese].

Fixing up a good big pot of red beans and rice currently.. mmmm.

As to why.

Well you see in the sixth grade i had this massive crush on one of my best friends, she happened to be a vegetarian.. and so.. that lasted for about a year until she moved away, but i've strongly tended towards it since then. About four years ago perhaps [i think it was senior year in h.s.] i went back to it all serious-like this time.

Mostly.. meat is expensive, it's difficult to prepare, it doesn't keep well, it's far more likely to transmit food poisoning or other ickiness, and fanrkly i never cared for most of it anyways. A good slow-roasted spiced lamb gyro is /almost/ too much to pass up though still, fortunately the falafel ones are incredibly good as well, and i do in fact cave every now and then for a bit of sushi.

And i think it's a lot more sustainable and practical and efficient to just eat the plant matter in the first place instead of growing it to feed meat-masses which take up far more space and are generally far more damaging to sustainability and so forth.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2004-11-17, 3:39 AM #17
I eat meat because I'm an omnivore, and that's just the way nature works. But I still respect the animals I eat. If I had to, I wouldn't hesitate to eat human meat.

Also, I buy free range animal meat only - actually, pretty much everything is free range around here.

I love chicken. Not a big fan of pork, except in pepperoni form! As for beef, I can't stand to eat anything hard (steaks, roastbeef...). Makes me want to puke just by putting it in my mouth. I eat everything ground. Ground beef, ground chicken, ground humans...
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2004-11-17, 4:45 AM #18
I eat most forms of meat. I particularly enjoy rare steak in copious quantities.

I like it to moo when I poke it with my fork :)
2004-11-17, 8:22 AM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by Thrawn42689:
Mainly I don't eat it because I just don't like the way it tastes. But I also realize the environmental impact it has. Pepperoni pizzas are too good to resist though.

Wow! I thought I was the only person in the world who didn't like the taste of meat. If I tell someone that I don't like hamburger, turkey, steak, or a multitude of other meat I don't like, the immediate reaction is almost invariably "Are you a vegetarian or something?" My answer is almost invariably "No, I just don't like the taste."
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2004-11-17, 8:24 AM #20
Mmmmmmmm meat is tasty.
/fluffle
2004-11-17, 8:35 AM #21
Bacon and sausages. Yum yum.
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2004-11-17, 8:36 AM #22
/me munches on a double cheeseburger
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2004-11-17, 8:56 AM #23
Vegetarian for the last five years, for many of Dor's reasons, without the caving. I started for philosophical/ethical reasons but can't remember the name of the philosopher I was reading now. Empathy, sympathy, blah blah blah... I won't go into it because the Meat-vs-Veg arguments used to be as surly as the CvE ones did. But I guess that was years ago as well.

To make this post useful, I will explain why most vegetables "aren't filling." Different parts of the digestive system work on different types of organic matter. The stomach works on proteins of all kinds. If you eat a light lunch of rice and vegetables, you're less likely to feel "full" because your stomach doesn't hang on to it very long. If you eat some freakishly large contest steak while wearing a cowboy hat and everyone is cheering and ringing bells, then you'll feel much fuller later. Your stomach hangs on to all that protein because it doesn't get absorbed anywhere else. More protein = more full. Of course you can always eat soy or something.

So... yeah. I was going to ask what the topic starter's preference was, but then I saw the other poll.
2004-11-17, 9:21 AM #24
My teeth are designed to eat both, so why not? Plus, being omnivorous adds flavor and variety to my diet.
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2004-11-17, 9:26 AM #25
meat wins

dead animal sandwich isalways nice
2004-11-17, 1:12 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by Masq
Vegetarian for the last five years, for many of Dor's reasons, without the caving. I started for philosophical/ethical reasons but can't remember the name of the philosopher I was reading now. Empathy, sympathy, blah blah blah... I won't go into it because the Meat-vs-Veg arguments used to be as surly as the CvE ones did. But I guess that was years ago as well.


Does CvE stand for Christians v. everyone?
2004-11-17, 1:17 PM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by Flexor
Also, I buy free range animal meat only - actually, pretty much everything is free range around here.


Yeah, there isn't really any "animal factories" around here.
2004-11-17, 4:08 PM #28
im a meatatrian, i eat nothing but meat. now me is hungry, meat time:D

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2004-11-17, 5:10 PM #29
I'm a herbivore. I suppose you folks would consider me to be a vegetarian. Like Masq, I became a vegetarian for philosophical reasons. I strive to one day be vegan, but it's simply too expensive and unrealitic for me at this point. I also try to consume mostly organic foods, but I'm not always able, due to the cost.

Why do I choose to not eat meat?

In this day and age, it's no longer necessary to consume meat to be healthy, if you know what you're doing. I have a deep love and respect for animals and since I have the option of not consuming them and still being healthy, it's simply logical to not. Oh, and I don't consider not eating meat to be a sacrifice in any way. I eat a wide variety of foods, and I've opened my mind to a world of tasty foods that I never imagined when I was eating meat.

Why do I prefer eating organic foods?

I hate to quote a container of milk, but...

Quote:
Many scientists and citizens are concerned about the unknown long-term impact of artificially created plants on natural ecosystems, which are very complex and may be fragile. Such gene-altered plants will inevitably interbreed with natural ones, creating new species whose qualities we cannot predict. In addition, these new combinations may inadvertently contain substances that are harmful to humans: for example, proteins provoking allergic reactions.


The "unkown long-term impact" is what I'm referring to.

Feel free to ask me any questions. Also, I'd just like to point out that I never try and push my views on others, and don't judge others for eating meat.
2004-11-17, 5:17 PM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Mikus
Does CvE stand for Christians v. everyone?


Creation v. Evolution
Pissed Off?
2004-11-17, 5:24 PM #31
I'm a vegetarian. I don't like calling myself that, because that technically means eating only vegetables. Oh well.

Many of the reasons posted prior to this is why.

Tofu, Bean + Cheeze Burrioto's + Soy product proccessed veggie burgers = all about 10-15g of protein, 2-3g of fat based on 2,000 daily diet. Drink 8 glasses a day, take vitemons + supplements, and work out 3-4 times a week.

(Evolution [or your God] made our teeth because we're superior to single-adapted species. Thus, we can survive anywhere.)

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2004-11-17, 7:08 PM #32
Vegetarian for 2.5+ years.

Philisophical and moral reasons, as well as health. And not liking the taste of meat anyway..

I do miss tuna fish though. If I ever cave, it'll be for a good tuna fish sandwich. But I haven't had any meat in two and a half years, and I'm as fit as a fiddle.
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2004-11-17, 8:36 PM #33
I love meat. Seriously, I could never give it up. But meat is even better with a healthy dose of vegies. A well-made vegitable soup with some ground beef (or even pieces of roast) mixed in is probably my favorite meal.
2004-11-17, 8:38 PM #34
Somebody pass the hamburgers. :)
2004-11-17, 9:05 PM #35
Juicy tender steak.... sooo good....

Beef. It's what's for life.
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2004-11-17, 9:19 PM #36
The only thing that can justify a vegetarian diet is medical reasons, but it is quite unhealthy not to eat any meat, so that "justification" is bullcrap. Vegetarians and vegans are hypocrites, even if for religious reasons. Yes, Buddha was wrong. No, he probably didn't attain Nirvana. Yes, his followers, like Christians, are dumb****s that completely misinterpreted his message. The fact of the matter is, the grass that clumps up in the soles of your shoes is just as alive as a cow, a sheep, a human baby, or your president. Killing is a part of life. This includes cows and lions. The way we are as a species does involve eating meat, occasionally. Not necessarily everyday, but a considerable amount one to three times a week. However, I think that the animals and the grass that you eat need to be treated with respect, and you have to recognize that you lowlives are alive only because it gave its life to allow you to feed your assfat. And people who hunt for sport when there is so much meat available are apathetic, self-righteous, and impotent. If you are lost in a forest and need food, you can go and kill to stay alive. But do it respecfully. Everything else is ****.
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2004-11-17, 9:21 PM #37
Be Canadian. Eat beaver.
2004-11-17, 9:26 PM #38
I seem to have fried chicken atleast 3 times a week. Just had it tonight, actually. Had it for lunch yesterday. Might have it again tomorrow. I love fried chicken.
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2004-11-18, 2:27 AM #39
If they were available more often i'd eat president every day, but i draw the line at eating grass with clumps of dirt in it.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2004-11-18, 5:31 AM #40
Quote:
The only thing that can justify a vegetarian diet is medical reasons, but it is quite unhealthy not to eat any meat, so that "justification" is bullcrap.


Evidence? Physicians and Nutrionists around the world would have to disagree with you there. As I've already stated, if you know what you're doing, you can easily be healthy as a vegetarian. Lacto-ovo vegetarians (the most common type of vegetarian) consume milk, eggs, and cheeses, and with a proper diet, they receive plenty of protein and vitamin b12. Other types of vegetarians, and even vegans can be quite healthy, if they know what they're doing. For vegans, it's a major lifestyle change, and is far from easy, but proper nutrition is within reach, if one knows what they're doing.

Quote:
Vegetarians and vegans are hypocrites, even if for religious reasons.


And for those of us who do it for philisophical, not religious reasons? I would like for you to provice evidence, or at least a decent opinion on how I am a hypocrite. Feel free to use any of my posts, as evidence.

Quote:
Killing is a part of life.


So that means that we should kill more than we need? So we should kill animals despite the fact that we can be perfectly healthy without consuming them? Killing is a part of life, but as humans, we have the ability to choose what to kill, and what to let live, and many of us have made the conscious decision that we'll stick to consuming organisms that don't feel pain. For me, it's a matter of taking what I need, and nothing more.

Quote:
The way we are as a species does involve eating meat, occasionally. Not necessarily everyday, but a considerable amount one to three times a week.


So those of us who are vegetarians and are healthy no longer belong to the human species? Think about it.

Quote:
If you are lost in a forest and need food, you can go and kill to stay alive. But do it respecfully.


At least we agree on something.

Some of your statements and/or accusations are simply illogical. I tend to think that you were being sarcastic, due to the fact that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence against what you're saying, but you seem to be serious. If you were indeed being sarcastic, feel free to ignore my post. Otherwise, please post something other than opinions that seem to be based on misconception and wise-fables.
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