YES.

Boco, people from England are English, people from Scotland are Scottish, we are all British.

If you don't like being called British you can go ahead and try to dissolve the United Kingdom, i'm not sure you'll have much luck on your own.

Taken off dictionary.com

Im not saying im not british, im saying that scotland is not a principality

No, I don't think Scotland is a principality, actually. There isn't a Prince or Princess of Scotland (as there is a Prince or Princess of Wales). But that doesn't make it a state.

England has existed as a unified entity since the 10th century; the union between England and Wales, begun in 1284 with the Statute of Rhuddlan, was not formalized until 1536 with an Act of Union; in another Act of Union in 1707, England and Scotland agreed to permanently join as Great Britain. The legislative union of Great Britain and Ireland was implemented in 1801, with the adoption of the name the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland - the Anglo-Irish treaty of 1921 formalized a partition of Ireland; six northern Irish counties remained part of the United Kingdom as Northern Ireland and the current name of the country, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, was adopted in 1927.

I'm just trying to figure out why you hate being called British, you are British, it's not a case of mistaken identity, it's fact.

1. well then why the hell are you arguing with me
2. The queens husband is the duke of edinburgh, the capital of scotland is edinburgh

People from Liverpool are Liverpudlians.
People from Manchester are Mancunians. (Not to be confused with Manchurians).
People from Newcastle are Geordies.
People from Birmingham are Brummies.
People from Scotland are Scotts


but they are all still British.

Im not denying that, bu i really hate the term

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This topic was not meant to be used to discuss Scotland... Let's get back to England/Britain.


I'm assuming the children are about 4 years old and that the parent who answered the childs question was American. The answer was not wrong. An Englishman is also British. And it could be that the parent didn't want to confuse the poor little child.
But, Europe has more centuries of history than America. Thus a much more complicated composition of countries.
Each European country has its own historical (hysterical) reasons for how it's composed today. And this is what the Americans cannot understand. Their history is only 200-300 years old.

riddlerstar, here's a tip for what you can do to "educate" the children:
Go back to your geography project and make sure that the map of the USA has all the States visable. Then at one point, ask the children which State they come from or which State their parents come from. Then, when all the children have said their bit, pick out the children from States such as California, Texas so you can say "You are then a Californian! And you are a Texan!" and so on with the state names one can do this with (have a little fun when doing this ). Then include that although they are from different states they are all Americans. Talk a bit about this and then go over to the European map and do the same sort of thing: People in Scotland are Scotish: People in Wales are Welsh People in England are English but they are all also British!! The children should be able to see the connection.
Don't make it too complicated BUT DO NOT make it too simple either, children are much smarter than we grown-ups give them credit for.

Oh and Mort-Hog...
*picks up a claymore, impales Mr.Hog in the stomache, and starts rosting him*
Ne'er miscaw the Scottish...
`OG'S ON THE BUIRD, LADS!

/Edward

Scotland sits somewhere in between being it's own country and being a state (for a lack of a better word). You're not completely independant from the UK as you only have limited power in your parliment to make laws. Furthermore, you elect MPs to the British parliment.

You are British. Last I checked, Great Britain still obtained and owned Scotland. And excuse us Americans--though I do know the difference between England and Britain, most Americans don't. Why? It's not our country. Why should we care.

You mean Scots actually exist?! I always thought they were fairytale people and make-belie......oh, never mind. Those are dwarves.

:p

Ok, I thought despite Wales being a Principality, it is *still* a country. I don't know *what* Scotland is, but I'm pretty damn sure it's both whatever it's technical term is, and still a country.

I may have a British passport, but England is still a damn country, and it is my country.

Until Yorkshire is made into a Nation State with me ruling with an iron chav-smiting fist.

Beware, dirty chavs, I will find and smite you all!!

*Shakes Iron Fist (TM)*

I like how Yoshi likes to call everyone ignorant and then makes statements like this.

In any case, maevie wins.

Um...I know the difference. Most Americans don't. I was just stating that they shouldn't have to--they live in America, not Britain, or even Europe.

I love how Mikus likes to personally attack me on every thread he can, almost all of the time with no reason.

DAMN YOU BRITS, YOU'RE TEARING THE COMMUNITY APART!!!! :(:mad:

Your bitter arrogant attitude just really gets to me.

I'm not bitter. I'm arrogant, but not bitter. But the thing is--I'm almost always right. So that affords me arrogance, maybe not as much as I show, but it still gives me leeway.

And at least I don't attack everyone I can on everything I can.

No, because everything you say is "your opinion" so yeah, you're "almost always right", but that just makes you an internet big shot, and posting your opinion as the final word on topics you're just pulling out of your arse agitates me, if you've got a problem, take it to PMs, this thread is not the place for this.

Actually I'm talking about when I post facts, not opinions. Great job, once again, you twist my words around. You win at life.

Curious about the UK.

Do Irish still speak Gaelic? Welsh and Scots speak something other than English? (I don't know the languages they speak)

That is such a disgusting attitude. Something's not inside the borders of your country so therefore it doesn't matter? No wonder the rest of the world views Americans as so arrogant. If you're anything to go by, then they all are.

Yes of course. So who was the American General at the Battle of Gettysburg? Please. Since you're so enlightened an all. I'd love to hear it. Or maybe who's our current Secretary of Commerce? Hmm? Of course, google will tell you in .05 seconds, but seriously, maev, you don't know EVERY LITTLE THING about America. Why? Because it's not your country.

There's a difference between not knowing and not caring.

PS: Mikus, stop flaming Yoshi, these forums have rules and you are well aware of them.

Do you care who the American general was in the Battle of Gettysburg? Secretary of Commerce?

The same way I could care less who is the head of the British Parliament. It's pertinent to you guys, but seriously, some things just don't MATTER.

No offense meant to you, Detty, just trying to get the point across.

Though, seeing as how I'm in Scholars Bowl, I really SHOULD know the head of Parliament. :p

Yes.

But smart remarks aside, there's also a difference between caring about what goes on in a country as a whole and caring about detailed facts. You know this as well as I do.

that's just a stereotype. I for one like learning about other countries in case I am ever there.

Yes, but most Americans don't, and don't care (bleh). The same as most Britains don't and don't care. The majority of the world is uneducated about world affairs. Hell I'm sure most of the population doesn't even know the Secretary General of the U.N., even though that affects every country in the world in a big way.

Which was my exact point :p

He's perpetuating this stereotype by voicing the opinion that what goes on outside his country is irrelevant.

Most Brits don't care?

I know a good number of people who practically had a day of mourning after the US elections, some were wearing only black for the entire day. I can't recall a single person that week who didn't express an opinion.

Would the same thing happen in America after an election in another country?

There's a difference--America is the most powerful country in the world, and the President is arguably the most powerful, and easily the most public figure in America. He's also got influence that no other position in the world can boast (well most others can't at least).

I mean I know Blair's prime minister--but like I said, I don't know who the head of Parliament is, just as you probably don't know who Speaker of the House is.

Maev--The people who post here are informed. That's a rarity in America. And I never said I believed that--I believe knowing as much as you can about as many nations as possible is important. You misconstrued my words there.

I would think that knowing the intricate details of the government, and know whether or not the place is a country, are two very different things...

Other countries care about America because what happens in America actually affects them. Americans care less about other countries because no other countries so drastically affect their daily lives. Thus, you Brits and Australians and Canadians are just as damn selfish as Americans are. You wouldn't give a **** one way or another if America didn't influence your lives, (which I fail to see how it does, honestly, so it's more of a perceived influence).

Basically, except in a less harsh and offending manner.

Hell. No.

Why? They don't influence us. We influence them.

Well the topic of this hi-jack is that, America doesn't really directly influence countries any more than a lot of other major import/export nations, but the attitude seems like "Why should we give a damn about anyone else, we're #1" Which is, in general, a bad attitude.

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