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So I finally got Half Life 2....
2004-12-04, 10:24 PM #41
Not nearly this bad. Painkiller never screwed up on me, FarCry didn't, Doom 3 didn't, Rome: Total War didn't...

Every game has bugs, some games just worse than others. Source engine games (the two that are currently out) seem to be the most obvious examples of this latter type of game.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 10:24 PM #42
I haven't had any technical problems with HL2, but I did have a massive AI failure that completely halted my progress in the game. After the battle with the gunships at the lighthouse, an AI guy is supposed to open a secret passageway for you to the cliff path. Well, this guy got completely stuck on the stairs before he made it down there to open the door for me. Nothing I could do would get him unstuck. I had to start again from a previous savegame.. :(
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-12-04, 10:30 PM #43
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Originally posted by Freelancer
I haven't had any technical problems with HL2, but I did have a massive AI failure that completely halted my progress in the game. After the battle with the gunships at the lighthouse, an AI guy is supposed to open a secret passageway for you to the cliff path. Well, this guy got completely stuck on the stairs before he made it down there to open the door for me. Nothing I could do would get him unstuck. I had to start again from a previous savegame.. :(




Yeah, I've noticed that important npcs sometimes get stuck in the game, and only reloading will fix it, like with the elevators and this. I've had that lighthouse bug happen once, too.
2004-12-04, 10:31 PM #44
No problems here, you guys all suck at not having buggy games
2004-12-04, 10:42 PM #45
Another little annoyance that I've had with HL2 is that sometimes, i get little flickering bars that appear near my health/ ammo counter near the bottom, and halfway up the screen on my left side. They dissapear when I look a different direction, but it's quite anoying. Has anyone else gotten these?

I'll post a screenshot the next time I get it.
2004-12-04, 10:55 PM #46
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
I'm not talking about those kinds of bugs, but yes you are because you're a fanboy, or you haven't been paying attention to any threads. Stuttering problem? Not running? Disappearing models and textures? Artifacting at default clocks? I've heard about every story from friends and people online (one guy I know says parts of maps disappear and so do models)


Will you ****ing stop with calling me a fanboy? Seriously, what the hell is your problem? Do you get some sort of perverse pleasure out of pissing me off? What the hell did I ever do to warrant all of this **** you throw at me in EVERY ONE OF THESE THREADS? You constantly attack me when all I'm doing is trying to offer a constructive opinion to the discussion. Every time I get flamed for it.

Okay, Stuttering problem. I had typed that in but I guess I accidently removed it when I redid part of the post (the "one major bug" at the end is referring to stuttering problems). One major bug that is currently in the process of being fixed.

I havn't seen any threads on the game simply not running. If you have, by all means, point me in their direction. Otherwise, don't make claims you can't back up.

Disappearing models and textures is also something I havn't heard of, and sounds more like a hardware or driver problem than a game problem. Again, point me to these threads, if they're as numerous as you suggest.

Artifacting I've only heard of once, and that's from a friend with a severely messed up videocard, so the bug would be his hardware and not with the game. Again, if there's a lot of people having this problem, they sure aren't posting about it much.

As I said, I visit a number of HL2- and Gaming-related forums, and the only bugs I have ever heard of are the ones I listed. I'm not saying other bugs don't exist, but they certainly aren't that numerous if no one's posting about them.

And stop ****ing attacking me every time I make a post. Thanks.
Moo.
2004-12-04, 10:57 PM #47
Holy jesus on a stick this just got interesting.

Do go on.
2004-12-04, 10:59 PM #48
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
There's been tons of problems with tons of rigs on both Vampire: Bloodlines...


Valve didn't make Vampire: Bloodlines.

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...and HL2. It's just that they're both good games, so the problems are downplayed.


Excepting for the bug in Half-Life: Source, I've yet to experience a single other bug. But, then, I've always seemed to have this ability to avoid most bugs when everyone else seemed to be piled under a ****hill of 'em.
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2004-12-04, 11:01 PM #49
[url]www.steampowered.com[/url] has some forums which should enlighten you.

Google search "Half life 2 problem" and see what you come up with.

The disappearing models thing is my friend who I know IRL and he says that every other game he's ever played has played just fine on his system, and after hearing his specs (no overclocking), I can tell the problem's with the game. Latest drivers.

I've heard one friend tell me he's had to downclock his Ti4200 to play the game correctly.

I only attack you if you don't know what you're talking about, and act like you do. That's what I do to everyone. One would think everyone would've caught on by now.

Not to mention, does the fact that HL2 is buggy really matter in the scheme of things? It's still fun, still a decent (to me) game, the bugginess only barely detracts from it's overall score/'awesomeness'/wtfever, but it's still there. I don't see why this matters so much to you, Cow.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 11:04 PM #50
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Originally posted by Wolfy
Valve didn't make Vampire: Bloodlines.



Excepting for the bug in Half-Life: Source, I've yet to experience a single other bug. But, then, I've always seemed to have this ability to avoid most bugs when everyone else seemed to be piled under a ****hill of 'em.


Valve made the source engine, the basis of Bloodlines, if you would've read my posts, any of them, you would've seen I said the Source engine was buggy, not just HL2 or Valve's games. Not to mention many of the errors in Bloodlines are very similar to ones from HL2.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 11:25 PM #51
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
The disappearing models thing is my friend who I know IRL and he says that every other game he's ever played has played just fine on his system, and after hearing his specs (no overclocking), I can tell the problem's with the game. Latest drivers.


I find this claim to be suspect -- have you personally inspected his system? Tested his claims? Seen this happen for yourself?

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I've heard one friend tell me he's had to downclock his Ti4200 to play the game correctly.


He's a solitary case, then, unless there are others who have had the same problem...?

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The source engine has more bugs than a ****ing beehive, for chrissakes.


Again, I find this claim to be suspect. No game's going to be perfect, but you seem to jump to the conclusion that if a problem exists, it's automatically something wrong with the Source engine, instead of possibly a problem on the user's end.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-04, 11:29 PM #52
Wolfy--my friend came to me for advice. He had no reason to lie, because we hadn't even DISCUSSED HL2 before this. He just brought it up. I don't think I need to inspect his system to see what's wrong--if he really wanted help he wouldn't lie to me.

Once again, google search Half Life 2 problem. I don't just see a few problems and say a game's buggy, I see tons of problems and say it's buggy. I've had it crash a few times on me because the AI or Physics killed it for some reason too.

Just do the ****ing google search instead of posting "I find this suspect" for chrissakes. It takes as much time, if not less, and yields better results than going "I'm skeptical" to someone who's telling you how to stop being so goddamned skeptical.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 11:30 PM #53
But Yoshi, are you considering the fact that a lot of people are stupid? and whiny? and stupid and whiny? People who butter their CDs to make them spin faster?
2004-12-04, 11:32 PM #54
There are stupid people out there, yes :p. But most of the cases I'm talking about are with intelligent people, or at least people who are smart enough to get a game working.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 11:33 PM #55
Intelligent people do dumb things. A lot. I'm not saying the game is perfect, but I'm willing to bet the majority is user error.
2004-12-04, 11:34 PM #56
Eh...I dunno. Perhaps. Still, it's about as buggy as the Battlefield engine, at the least.
D E A T H
2004-12-04, 11:36 PM #57
All I know is I've not had a problem yet, and I probably won't.
To quote wossnames sig: SUCKERS!!
2004-12-04, 11:40 PM #58
I've been looking through pages on Google. The stuttering problem, for the most part, has been addressed, excepting some Nvidia users. The rest seem to be system-specific.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-04, 11:55 PM #59
Me included. The only way I can stop it is to turn down my settings--and for a game that looks that mediocre, there's just no excuse for me to have to turn down the settings.
D E A T H
2004-12-05, 12:01 AM #60
...you actually think that Half-Life 2 is "mediocre"?
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-05, 12:02 AM #61
It looks mediocre, yes. Overall how the game is...it's okay. But that's not relevant
D E A T H
2004-12-05, 12:03 AM #62
It's certainly mediocre for me. I even have all the settings turned up as high as they can go and I've seen Quake 3 do better. Then again, the GF2 probably has something to do with it..
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-12-05, 12:04 AM #63
It has impressive water, faces, and SOME decent textures. Everything else is crap.
D E A T H
2004-12-05, 12:07 AM #64
I've got to say the models are about 100x better than anything I've ever seen, and the textures are great. But how great can textures really be when you can't crank up the res? ;/
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2004-12-05, 12:08 AM #65
The models are okay, not really awe-inspiring to me though they do their job. The textures though. Oh my god...talk about your spread. You go from the highest res, most awesome looking ones to the lowest res, most horrible looking ones.
D E A T H
2004-12-05, 12:29 AM #66
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
I only attack you if you don't know what you're talking about, and act like you do. That's what I do to everyone. One would think everyone would've caught on by now.

Not to mention, does the fact that HL2 is buggy really matter in the scheme of things? It's still fun, still a decent (to me) game, the bugginess only barely detracts from it's overall score/'awesomeness'/wtfever, but it's still there. I don't see why this matters so much to you, Cow.


How do I not know what I'm talking about? I said I hadn't seen many people complain about bugs, which is true, because I havn't. The only bugs I've heard of are the ones I listed. So how do I not know what I'm talking about?

And I never said it mattered. You implied it was riddled with bugs, and I offered my view on it (as one often does in a discusion), kindly pointing out that I have not heard of a lot of bugs. Never once did I say "OMG THIS GAME IS NOT BUGGY", or even imply defensiveness of the game. I simply said that I hadn't encountered, or heard of, many bugs at all.

And why it matters so much? Uh... When did I ever say that it mattered? I posted my part to the discussion. That's what you do in a forum. I didn't really care one way or another. The thing that matters to me is that you continue to attack me. It wasn't until then that I got defensive of anything, and even then, it was defensiveness of myself and not of the game.

Every damn post I make, you seem to read it as "OMG HL2 IS THE BEST GAME EVAR!!1", when I don't even imply it in the slightest in the majority of my posts. Your unwarranted attacks against me piss me off, and that's the only thing I've been making a big deal about. Are you completely incapable of discussing something in a civil manner without labelling me as a fanboy and continuing to attack me?
Moo.
2004-12-05, 12:32 AM #67
One day, you'll realize how lame you all sound.... arguing over a game.

Lamos.
2004-12-05, 12:33 AM #68
Two words: Private Message.

Next topic--Doom 3 vs. HL2 LOLOLZ!

Rob--go do more shoving of arms up the *** of a certain ]-[ellequin...
D E A T H
2004-12-05, 12:34 AM #69
He only has so many arms to rip off you know...
2004-12-05, 2:00 AM #70
I had minor stuttering issues with HL2 which were fixed surprisingly fast. Now not even one single problem or issue.

Not disputing that others might still have problems with HL2, but to declare that the "source engine has more bugs than a ****ing beehive" I'd expect a gaming experience more along the lines of Trespasser where -everyone- experience many numerous bugs and issues.

HL2 doesn't even begin to approach that level and is one of the more bug free games I've played over the last few years.
2004-12-05, 2:04 AM #71
He speaks the truth. I know that, at least for me, Half Life 2 was the most flawless gaming experience I've ever had as far as bugs go. I must have been lucky, but it still shows how well the engine and game was put together.
Warhead[97]
2004-12-05, 8:00 AM #72
I never had a problem with it or any of the other Source games.
2004-12-05, 8:04 AM #73
I almost posted saying I have no bugs. My system does reset completely throughout every now and then anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour in. Usually if I made it past an hour of play it just never happened. It also happens with Doom 3 though, and Battlefield:Vietnam also constantly resets my computer. So I don't blame the games. Just a minor annoyance.
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2004-12-05, 8:47 AM #74
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Originally posted by LonelyDagger
I almost posted saying I have no bugs. My system does reset completely throughout every now and then anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour in. Usually if I made it past an hour of play it just never happened. It also happens with Doom 3 though, and Battlefield:Vietnam also constantly resets my computer. So I don't blame the games. Just a minor annoyance.


That's probably an issue with your computer overheating.
2004-12-05, 8:57 AM #75
Hl2 has never crashed on me. Doom3 crashes on me quite often.

For some reason, the source engine feels streamlined and fast, whereas in doom3 I feel like I'm weighted down with lead when I move.
2004-12-05, 9:04 AM #76
I had zero bugs. Count them, Zero.


Everyone I've talked to have maybe had one or two.

And these were all extreamly minor.
(with the exception of my friend, but his video card is messed up so its artifacting and messing up everywhere)

well, correction, in CSS sometimes if I alt tabbed while loading a level and loaded something else, like music, the hostages would turn into walking chia pets. And sometimes when I had shader effects set to low and alt-tabbed, the shaders would have the pink checker specular effect, but I'd just restart to fix that, I haven't seen it for weeks.

and whats funny enough is, I'm a super-low end system, you'd expect me to have lots of problem just /running it/

but other then bad framerates during nova prospekt, thats all I can think of.

I'm not denying people are having problems, but you do realize most people who post at the steam forums have the intelligence of a hummingbird?


( On a note, tell your friend to try this, Redownload HL2. Or validate if hes retail. I had some crazy bugs in HL:S, but redownloaded it and it runs fine now.
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2004-12-05, 9:36 AM #77
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Originally posted by Freelancer
I haven't had any technical problems with HL2, but I did have a massive AI failure that completely halted my progress in the game. After the battle with the gunships at the lighthouse, an AI guy is supposed to open a secret passageway for you to the cliff path. Well, this guy got completely stuck on the stairs before he made it down there to open the door for me. Nothing I could do would get him unstuck. I had to start again from a previous savegame.. :(


Same thing happened to me the second time I played through, I thought I'd cocked up somehow.

"Here, let me get out your way."

How about you try opening the friggin' door? You moron who bears an uncanny resemblance to Roy Scheider.
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