[url]www.webfeatsdesign.com[/url]

This website is the absolute ****. It's incredible. The graphic design, the music, the sound effecst, the animation, the art, all of it. Comes together excellently. The only thing I noticed is that there's very little 3d element to it. None of the animations give the illusion of a third dimension. This isn't a bad thing, the site obviously doesn't need it.

Anyway, it's a web design company (T.T if you didn't know), and they sure practice what they preach. Anyway, enjoy! People like pagewizard would enjoy this (and hopefully learn something from it) I presume.

No, see, I've seen the power puff-girls before...

JediKirby

Magnificent!

see, I like Flash and all, (I actually have to brush up on my flash skills a bit, i haven't used it for anything complicated for quite some time. I've been doing text based stuff in Adobe Indesign lately and very little web work) but I don't like using flash for the whole web interface when I do designs b/c:


-your audience must have the flash plugin to see anything, and not all people have it. Some people don't have it installed on pupose for whatever reason they can come up with (probably to avoid those annoying flash-based ads, in which case I don't blame them.)

-It sort of screams in your face with excessive motion and sound, which may piss off some people and make them leave.

-Often, on flash sites, you have to sit through some kind of intro. On this one you don't, but i've been to ones whee you do, and it pisses me off.

-Visitors can't use useful tools like "find in page" or scroll using the mousewheel.

-You have to wait for everything to load, whereas on traditional design, you can start reading the text content right away while the images load.


-Flash sites usually aren't compatible with accessability tools like text-to-speech converters, which may alienate some visitors.

-Flash is not a web standard. [yet]


Although it isn't really fair to include it in the list, I have a hard time reading the text on that site. It's small, sometimes with poor contrast, and I'm one of the unfortunate people that still has a 15" monitor and will have it for some time, so it makes it even harder still.

Although I found out how to turn it off, that looping sound drives me crazy after awhile.

more like friggin annoying...

Yeah, I think flash is nifty and everything, but for honest site design I don't like having everything all whooshy and moving, you know? Plus, I do like to find words on a page and bookmark specific pages and that kind of thing. Still very cool.

it's an advertisement... Check their portfolio. That site is just a showcase: Look at all the neat effects, transitions, buttons, menus, etc, that we can do!

Yes, its a bit o' visual overload.

Look at all of the useless frosting trying to draw attention away from the fact that the site(s) has no content.

JediKirby

Even I can't read ****, they seem to give a **** about handicapped people anyway

Their html sites are plain boring

The effects slow down browsing, what a waste of time

(and I am talking about their real work, not the show-off site)

If I were a company, looking for someone to design my website, I'd rather NOT have to wait 10 minutes before being able to read this portfolio.

And any site that I have pause Winamp for sucks by default.

Pure truth.

God yes. What on earth possessessesses people to put music on their sites? Nobody pokes around online waiting for music, they have their own!

Sorry, pet peeve

The loading screen causes sezures.

That is really the best site ever made....

That was sweet. The guy's only 18 and clearly he's one of the best webdesigners in the world - he's set for life.

I absolutely hate flash. I will never pay attention to a site that uses anything more than a marginal amount of that bull****. The most annoying crap ever put online.

The content of the site IS all the 'useless frosting'. They design websites, so I'd expect that their website should be showing off all of what they can do,

"the most ****kicking website ever. EVER."

What word were you putting with kicking?

That website was obnoxious and poorly designed. Even the minimalist version was bloated with flash. I give it an F.

Some of you seem to be missing the point. The first thing that you learn in web-design classes is that you design your sites based on what your viewers want to see. The people that are viewing this particular website are there to view Flash. I know that many of you are web-standard elitists, but you'd have to be a fool to not see that Flash is but one step towards the future of the web. Embrace beautiful graphics, interaction, animation, and music/sounds, or be left behind. Some of you don't seem to comprehend that websites like this will one day be web-standard, although that day is a bit far off. Try to look at things from a futurist standpoint, which may require you to look beyond your own nose.

/me waits for someone to totally misunderstand the above statements, and slam me with things that I never claimed nor implied.

This is true.

But I still like their design. The have great power, but they can't use anything with it.

Completely awful. I had to wait about 5 minutes just to get the PRE-intro to load. Eventually I opted for the lite-version of the site (which took 5 minutes to load) and had a look at the portfolio, all of which looked fairly amateurish.

Making a website entirely out of flash is like making a cake entirely out of the coloured icing that you normally only use to write "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" on top.

And Mentat, I think you should be more respectful to my family.

I must say, I agree with you.


Flash may not be a great standard now, but could (and likely will) become standard in the future.... it has a lot to offer, but at the same time, it has a lot of disadvantages.

Personally I like the main site (I haven't looked at their portfolio sites yet) As a web-design company, you would want to be able to show off the high-quality abilities you have. Granted, there are a few things they should have done, but didn't (such as have a HTML website to show their HTML skills, as well as for those who don't have broadband or don't like Flash).

The web is a content-delivery system. A website should focus around delivering it's content in the most accessible and visually-pleasing way. If a web-designer wants to show off his flash abilities, he should just put a few examples in his portfolio rather than make everyone crawl through multiple screens of annoying animation with varying GUIs.

If I was looking for tutorials on how to develop a flash website, I would hope they could be located on a website which is primarily written in html rather than flash.

I think everything looks good, and fits very well, there is just way too much animation between every part of the website. I found myself staring at the screen for 30+ seconds waiting so I can just see some actual content.

Every single class, every single tutorial, and every single skilled web-designer I've ever come in contact with have all said the EXACT same thing:

Keep your website plain, deliver your content easily and most of all, make it accessable and navigatable.

This flash site is NONE of the above. The portfolio (The only link I bothered clicking, and obviously the only link worth clicking) shows poorly designed HTML sites that use centered tabled information, and tiny text. Visually PLEASING is what you should be going for, not visually STIMULATING. I shouldn't have to take pills for sensory overload before going to your site. And the number 1 thing that everyone knows not to put on their site is music. Come now, I have my own music on my PC, and no one cares about your zelda midis, your suspensful thriller music, or your piano balad. No one.

JediKirby

The site is annoying, Detty and Kirby and the other people who agree are right. It took me a good 3 minutes just to view their portfolio on a cable connection. How annoying.

Is this comment just over my head, or do you have me confused with someone else?

Haha, wow, gotta say that's the most negative response I've ever seen!
I assume you guys never watch action movies? You prefer not to be enticed by your music? You like driving '85 Cavaliers and shun the concept of owning a Porsche?

A viewer who fails to understand that the site's motion IS its content is misunderstanding the site, and thus not someone for whom I'd ever want to design anything. Design is a hobby for me -- my friends work at ice rinks or sandwich shops to make extra money, whereas I run a design company. I only design what I think is fun to design. Honestly, if I go into motion for a living, I see myself focusing far more on television ads, cinema special effects, and full-on demo videos than websites, 'cause most websites are f%$king boring to create.

The Internet of 1993 was rather solely focused on information distribution. The Internet of 2005 has expanded -- not only is it focused on information distribution, but interactive advertisements and publicity as well. You can live in the past, believing all sites should use two colors and one font and should not exist without a profound textual-content purpose, or you can open your eyes a bit and see that the Internet is expanding into all kinds of media.

Regardless, y'all are welcome to have your own opinions. I'm not insulted
I just had to come here and say something, since this thread has sent me about 120 referrals this morning.

Now, complain! Bicker!
:p

(also -- making fun of my HTML skills is like complaining that Jennifer Lopez's penis is too small ).

O_O sweet jesus

I never want a mental image like that again.

It made me laugh before I actually thought about it.

Thats like a combination of everything in design from the past 5 years...the retro technical flash everything grey to white a couple times before showing it oceans 11 catch me if you can kind of website....honestly I'm getting sick of it. However my opinions aside, its solid, well done and looks good, but by no means would I go and say its the best site ever...

Ok, nvm, Mentat made the point for me. It's pretty, visually stimulating, and displays great skill with photoshop/flash/you name it. And Fruityloops for that matter. It does what it tries to do extremely well.

I was making a lame joke.

Negative responses help you learn from your mistakes.
Generally websites with music is a no no. It's annoying unless it has something to do with the actual site.


You also have to understand that you overused the motion. Alot. Hell, I didnt even see a 56k friendly version until I got past that silly mini intro. That option should be right up front. I automatically went for the skip intro button. It takes too long for things to happen. I want to turn off the sound, but I have to wait for the box to spin and grow and flash before I can actually hit "off"

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This is true, but that doesnt change the fact that keeping it simple is the best way to go. Your website takes the long way around to do a simple function as I mentioned before with the sound box.
Your website goes like this: Click--> Box comes down, spins, widens, gets vertically bigger, then all the text flashes in and spins around.
An ideal website would have this: Sound on button, sound off button. If they wanted to provide options for other songs there would be a simple drop down menu.

It was pretty, but music makes me pause my music, and that makes the baby jesus self harm.

I thought the flash effects where cool but I didn't like watching them everytime I wanted to go to a new page... those pages could have loaded in 5 seconds minimum but because you had to watch the transitions it took about 15 seconds to load a page.

Yeah, my biggest pet peeve was that once the site FINALLY loaded, I clicked on portfolio, and from the time I clicked on the portfolio link to the time I was actually looking at it was like 20 seconds. I just got fed up and closed it.

Well, lets see. First, it has no perceivable content. You also have to wait for like, 20 seconds for all the flashy stuff to finally quit before you can finally see what's on the page you are trying to see. Third, the flashy design and small print, make the wording really hard to read. It's more of a movie intro than a website.