You know... you sure whine a lot. :p



...am I kidding? hmmm.....

I'm probally going to get yelled at by this because people tend to make fun of ignorance.

I remeber when I first came here, people said "gbk" a lot. I know this is a person that hates microsoft and post here, but is that an acronym? If it is, what does it stand for?

No. It had something to do with a user code or something he had at work, and he used it as his username here.

is a GBK smilie. It's the sad faced smilie. I'd post it, but I refuse smilies.

JediKirby

If your going to be *****ing about the way people post stuff, then what's up with "signing" your name on each post?

I'm used to it because I sign my name on e-mails, etc. As well, I find it far more reasonable and proper to leave your name after things you type. Sort of like authenticating your post. It's also an end-statement for me. A good way to give conclusion. It's far from lazy, and even further from an acronym.

JediKirby

I didn't say it was lazy. Useless would be more like it. Your name is already on the left.

The two aren't related at all, STFU dude.

Personally I'd have to agree, post-signing is far more annoying and redundant than posting "QFT".

1. We already can tell who's posting.
2. An e-mail recipient would most likely already recognize your e-mail address. It would only be useful to people who you rarely e-mail or people you know, but who wouldn't know your e-mail address.

Stop wasting massassi's space with extra stuff.

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QFT is just another way of saying "Well said!" or something in that same tone. It's a way of acknowledging what some one said because you think it was very good.

Just so you all know, I'm waiting until this hits three pages, then I'm going to quote the entire thread and put "QFT" after it.

Then I'll quote your post and put "QFSTFU"

And then I'll QFE that.

You know, it occurs to me that JediKirby likes to be annoyed. I mean, he posts threads quite frequently telling us what annoys him... he's just asking for it.

*evil smirk*

I just assumed he found everything annoying

I sort of agree. But I think "I agree." posts are just as useless as "QFT". If there's some sort of discussion going on, and all you have to contribute is "yes, yes indeed", then it really isn't worth you posting. No-one is keeping a running tally of how many people agree on each side. And if they are, then they'll use a poll.

But what is far far worse is "in my opinion", or the far more irritating variant "IMO". Of course it's your bloody opinion, or else you wouldn't be saying it. Who else's opinion is it going to be? If I say Doom 3 sucks! then it's pretty damn obvious that it is my opinion. Do I really have to slap on some warning label? I suppose if I don't some idiot is going to say well that's your opinion! as if that actually constitutes as a response. Oh, and "IMHO" is even worse. my opinion is most humble, sire, please don't beat me with a stick!. Really, you might as well write "I think I'm an idiot too!" instead.

Grr.

"In my opinion" is far better since it is an acknowledgment that you believe someting that can be debated. "QFT" is idiotic because it is rarely truth and usually opinion. In my opinion.

ditto

Not to mention if you don't type IMO then people will jump all over you as if your stating your opinion as fact.
I have seen many posts (not necassarily in massassi) along the lines of "you ****, at least put an IMO after a sentance like that"
Damned if you do, damned if you don't... imo...
-edit- damn, just noticed I wasn't the first to chuck imo after my sentance as a joke, oh well...

Mort, you do have to say "In my opinion" because otherwise some genius is gonna jump down your throat that you haven't filled out forms in triplicate proving the statement as fact. If people used some common sense then we wouldn't constantly have to point out that it's just our opinion, otherwise someone will point it out for you.

Person A: I like blue best
Person B: THAT's JUST YOUR OPINION!

Duh...

[Edit: Holy crap, Deadman posted exactly what I posted almost word for word two minutes before I posted it (the first part anyways)... WELL LET ME JUST CHANGE MY WHOLE POST TO A QFT DIRECTED AT DEADMAN MUWAHAHHAHA]

Why you hold any belief that you consider cannot be debated? The fact that you are voicing your opinion in the first place is putting it open for debate, for rebuke or for disproof.

It seems to follow some bizarre logic of all opinions being 'equal' somehow. If you have an opinion or a preference to something, then you consider that something to be superior. Apples or oranges. Which is better? You choose apple. Given the choice, you would pick an apple and not an orange. You prefer apples. This may be based on the feel, the taste, the size, the colour, the ease of eating. You have considered a multitude of factors, and have evaluated that apples are superior. You consider apples superior to oranges. There's no "in my opinion" about it, you have, through logical derivation, proved to yourself that apples are superior. You do not consider oranges 'equal' to apples, you do not consider them on the same level, or else you would not have made the choice. You consider oranges inferior to apples, based on the same factors. If you did not, you would have chosen the orange and not the apple.
Of course, most of this is going to be through subconscious prejudice so it's going to be difficult to explain to someone else why exactly you consider apples superior, but that doesn't change the fact that you do.

You must consider your opinion superior to all others, or else you wouldn't have an opinion at all.

The phrase "in my opinion" is going to be quite unnecessary.

Yes, it is using stupidity to fight stupid people. You might avoid the stupid people being stupid, but you're being pretty damn stupid in the process. You cannot debate with stupid people, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

You guys tend to take funny little threads to the absolute extreme.

Good god, apples and oranges? Just type in full sentances.

JediKirby

NEVER <- Notice lack of punctuation.

QFT

I like this idea the best.

Whatever happened to replying No to threads?

JediKirby, stop complaining about "full sentences" on the internet. "QFT" is a billion times less annoying than when you wrote everything in third person. It doesn't even take a second to read/comprehend a QFT post, so you can see the three letters and move on with your life. The real intent of this thread is to feel high and mighty about how great your English usage is on this web-site when compared to the "lazy" people. There is virtually no impact what-so-ever to short hand being used---unless it's mixed in with a paraphraph.

To summarize:

Not annoying = "QFT"
Annoying = "u r not coo becuz u complan all da tyme"

One is so easy to read it literally sucks no time out of your life; one actually makes the idea harder to read. Big difference.

Right, but what would be far better for all involved would be if that person didn't post at all in the first place.

Not necessarily true. I've actually been on a forum where people would try to debate me for simply stating my belief if I didn't actually say "this is what I believe" or some derivitive thereof, as though I was stating my belief as fact. Heck, I even told them (paraphrased) "If I'm posting it, it's obviously my belief." Made no difference, I guess.

I can't say this forum is much different.

Quoted for irony

Aw now you guys are just getting mean.

Well if you didn't want people debating your belief, then you shouldn't state it.

How do you figure? I'm sharing info, so I must want to debate?

Ok...

Mort, your analogy regarding apples is flawed. If someone believes apples are superior to oranges for the reasons you listed then it is of course opinion and a preference. If, however, they chose to cite factual reasons (such as nutrition, etc) as the basis for their belief then that would be different.

I do think you are on the right track but simply chose the wrong analogy. A political one would have been more appropriate. Still, I think "IMO" is a nicer, more open-minded phrase, where as "QFT" is generally obnoxious and close-minded.

Hehehe... almost to three pages...

Well, the actual 'basis' for the opinion doesn't really matter. You still consider your opinion superior to all others. This was the point I was getting across.



Well, yes. It's not 'info' that you're sharing, it's an opinion. An opinion is a logical derivation reaching some conclusion. What is significant is not really what that conclusion is, but rather the logical process you went through to arrive at it.

Unless it's one of these silly "post your x" threads, then you should be expected to follow up and opinion with some logical reasoning for how you arrived at that opinion.

If you're confident in your logic, then you shouldn't be afraid of 'debate'. It's the people that go "it's MY OPINION so shut up i have the RIGHT TO AN OPINION so shut up and i'm ENTITLED TO MY OPINION so shut up you can't change my opinion grrrr!!!!" that are quite clearly not confident their logic.