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George the Second fails to donate.
2005-01-03, 3:18 PM #1
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Originally posted by USAToday:
Among the celebrities who have donated money for tsunami disaster relief: Actress Sandra Bullock reportedly has given $1 million to the American Red Cross; a number of well-known athletes have given cash; and the band Linkin Park has pledged $100,000 | (video) to the Red Cross. The White House, in a bit of a minor embarrassment, disclosed Monday morning that President Bush had yet to make a donation — even as he sent his father and former president Bill Clinton out to help raise private funds. Bush will make a donation soon, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
Think while it's still legal.
2005-01-03, 3:20 PM #2
And?
2005-01-03, 3:21 PM #3
How much have you donated SAJN?
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2005-01-03, 3:22 PM #4
This bores me. I'm tired. I have a house with a front door AND a back door. You're like my friends dad. He's poor and smells like salmon.
2005-01-03, 3:23 PM #5
When you think about it, 150 000 dead isn't that big a deal. It's just the fact that it was all in one event that makes it so shocking. If you cummulate all the deaths of all the quakes, floods and storms around the globe for a year, I'm sure it'll top that number by alot. So why not give money to help the victims of those disasters instead?
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2005-01-03, 3:24 PM #6
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How much have you donated SAJN?


As much as I can. Whenever I can.
Think while it's still legal.
2005-01-03, 3:25 PM #7
Are you actively searching for anything and everything that seems to make W look bad?

If so, you really need to find something else to do.
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2005-01-03, 3:26 PM #8
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Originally posted by Flexor
When you think about it, 150 000 dead isn't that big a deal. It's just the fact that it was all in one event that makes it so shocking. If you cummulate all the deaths of all the quakes, floods and storms around the globe for a year, I'm sure it'll top that number by alot. So why not give money to help the victims of those disasters instead?


Because they're dead. I like cheeze pizza AND vegetable pizza.
2005-01-03, 3:27 PM #9
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Are you actively searching for anything and everything that seems to make W look bad?


No, he makes himself look bad. I just happened to come across this on USAToday and I got a chuckle out of it.
Think while it's still legal.
2005-01-03, 3:27 PM #10
Linkin Park > George Bush
2005-01-03, 3:28 PM #11
150,000 people were killed in 15 days in rwanda and nobody (the developed nations) gave a crap.
we didn't say anything until after 80 days when 800,000 people were slaughtered.
then we said something but still did nothing.
:/
clinton apologized sometime afterwards. he was the only one that aknowledged that something should've been done and all of us dropped the ball on that one.
no one else wanted to take any responsibility.
now we all do. :/
2005-01-03, 3:28 PM #12
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
As much as I can. Whenever I can.


does that mean nothing?
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2005-01-03, 3:28 PM #13
Well, the President is in a position to know when and where the best means of donation will be. Makes sense to wait and put his money where he knows it will go to the best use rather than make some knee jerk donation such as so much of what we've already seen.

I haven't personally donated yet although my wife has (not like the money didn't come from the same place). Anyway, I plan to stay away from UN based charities and go with something private and proven. Too much corruption at the UN.
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2005-01-03, 3:28 PM #14
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
No, he makes himself look bad. I just happened to come across this on USAToday and I got a chuckle out of it.


You laugh like a racoon. This air smells funny. I bet it's your hair that smells funny. Why don't you donate your surplus? Is it because you're poor and smell like salmon?
2005-01-03, 3:30 PM #15
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does that mean nothing?


No, I'm a very generous person. I donate when I can. I donated my weeks lunch money to help the poor during christmas. It isn't much, but atleast it's something.

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Is it because you're poor and smell like samon?


Salmon. [/grammarnazi]
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2005-01-03, 3:31 PM #16
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Originally posted by Flexor
When you think about it, 150 000 dead isn't that big a deal. It's just the fact that it was all in one event that makes it so shocking. If you cummulate all the deaths of all the quakes, floods and storms around the globe for a year, I'm sure it'll top that number by alot. So why not give money to help the victims of those disasters instead?


because it is far easier to recover when only one city has taken the brunt of the damage.

but when that many cities get wiped out (some lost over 50% of their population), they loose theur income. It will take billions of dollars to recover when usualy they could move nearby and rebuild after the cleanup and start again. with that many deaths and the blow to the tourism industry, it will take much more work to recover.

think about the situation before you post.
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2005-01-03, 3:34 PM #17
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Originally posted by SAJN_Master
As much as I can. Whenever I can.


Sure you have.

If you can't think of a better way to Bash Bush than this, don't even try. :rolleyes: As a side note, I'm a bit ticked off at him right now.
2005-01-03, 3:34 PM #18
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Originally posted by Darth Evad
150,000 people were killed in 15 days in rwanda and nobody (the developed nations) gave a crap.
we didn't say anything until after 80 days when 800,000 people were slaughtered.
then we said something but still did nothing.
:/
clinton apologized sometime afterwards. he was the only one that aknowledged that something should've been done and all of us dropped the ball on that one.
no one else wanted to take any responsibility.
now we all do. :/


one reason, that was a human disaster.

also, America (see. the government) tends to either be going to war or being an ignorant isolationist and seems to be unable to find that happy medium.

(note. agian, I say the government.)
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2005-01-03, 3:38 PM #19
Whole towns get wiped out by floods all the time. You can't just pickup and go rebuild somewhere else - chances are that territory already belongs to someone else. This is no different, it's just the same thing applied on a bigger scale.
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2005-01-03, 3:39 PM #20
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Originally posted by alpha1
one reason, that was a human disaster.

also, America (see. the government) tends to either be going to war or being an ignorant isolationist and seems to be unable to find that happy medium.

(note. agian, I say the government.)


Why don't you capitalize your sentances? I bet you never went to school. I had a cat that never went to school. She became roadkill. I bet you'll become roadkill. You should go to American School.

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2005-01-03, 3:39 PM #21
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Originally posted by Flexor
Whole towns get wiped out by floods all the time. You can't just pickup and go rebuild somewhere else - chances are that territory already belongs to someone else. This is no different, it's just the same thing applied on a bigger scale.


except it isn't all at once. It's isolated and surrounding areas are more readily available to give aid. This way the relief effort is stretched over a larger area and has a much larger demand all at once.
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2005-01-03, 3:39 PM #22
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Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
Sure you have.

If you can't think of a better way to Bash Bush than this, don't even try. :rolleyes: As a side note, I'm a bit ticked off at him right now.


one, why the hell would he do something as disgusting as pretending that he has made a number of donations if he hasn't. (btw. I belive that you have donated a much as you can sajn_master)

also, he is complaing about the fact that bush has yet to make a personal donation. remember, he anted the damage assesed by his own people before he made a large government donation.

He is rich, so why doesn't he just make the damn donation. It's not like there could be a fraud going on and the situation needs to be confirmed by government officials by way of a vistit and asessment.
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2005-01-03, 3:41 PM #23
I don't trust the Red Cross, better give money to teams of doctors, students, or people you know in real life that are going there than some organization that looted money which was supposed to be used to help with 9/11 victims.
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2005-01-03, 3:42 PM #24
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Originally posted by Jereiaki
Why don't you capitalize your sentances? I bet you never went to school. I had a cat that never went to school. She became roadkill. I bet you'll become roadkill.


oooh, is that all you can do, insult people, I think your post needs repoting.

Also, it is creepy because I am looking at engrish.com right now.
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2005-01-03, 3:42 PM #25
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Originally posted by alpha1
one reason, that was a human disaster.

also, America (see. the government) tends to either be going to war or being an ignorant isolationist and seems to be unable to find that happy medium.

(note. agian, I say the government.)


That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in some time.
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2005-01-03, 3:42 PM #26
jereikai is banned
A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy.

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2005-01-03, 3:45 PM #27
thankyou sine. it is extremely inapropriate to just randomly flame people, epecialy in a serious discussion.

(inberfore the kneejerk ban-lock reaction :p )
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2005-01-03, 3:47 PM #28
SAJN-

It's great that you are so righteous and a great person, but what Bush personally donates is none of your business. I haven't donated. Am I proud? No. But you don't know my personal situation and I take offense to people like you who try to race to the top of the moral ladder all of the time. The article said he was planning to make a donation, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt you had to ride in on the moral high horse. Get over yourself.
2005-01-03, 3:49 PM #29
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Originally posted by tinny
I don't trust the Red Cross, better give money to teams of doctors, students, or people you know in real life that are going there than some organization that looted money which was supposed to be used to help with 9/11 victims.



:confused:

Dude, the red cross wouldn't do that.

Also, there are other organisations to give to. I don't think that a doctor would be able to do anything useful with the money as the red cross gives the people that go there the supplies they need.
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2005-01-03, 3:51 PM #30
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Originally posted by Jedi Legend
SAJN-

It's great that you are so righteous and a great person, but what Bush personally donates is none of your business. I haven't donated. Am I proud? No. But you don't know my personal situation and I take offense to people like you who try to race to the top of the moral ladder all of the time. The article said he was planning to make a donation, instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt you had to ride in on the moral high horse. Get over yourself.


W. is supposed to be the leader of the free world. He should set an example to show he is deserving of the title as a leader needs to take care of their subordinates.

Surely he could afford to give a personal donation of .25million at least.
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2005-01-03, 3:54 PM #31
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2005-01-03, 3:56 PM #32
SAJN, I'm going to be really disappointed if you don't start a new thread accusing Bush of not donating *enough*

Really, this is pathetic. Only you (not) could gloss over the $350 million donated by the government plus the $80 million + through the American Red Cross, to find something petty to make a big deal out of. If it were anyone else, an omission like that would lead me to believe you have an agenda *other* than wanting aid to reach the tsunami victims, but this is you we're talking about! We all know better
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A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.

art
2005-01-03, 3:58 PM #33
it was not good, it was tasteless and not even funny.

WTH does salmon have to do with being poor?
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2005-01-03, 4:01 PM #34
Wow, did SAJN write this article? It amused him, he thought it would amuse other, RELAX.
2005-01-03, 4:05 PM #35
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Originally posted by alpha1
W. is supposed to be the leader of the free world. He should set an example to show he is deserving of the title as a leader needs to take care of their subordinates.


He's supposed to be president, not Mother Theresa. If his policies as president are good, then he is deserving of the title.

I resent that you think Bush should take care of me. Please avoid patronizing American citizens by slapping us with the label of "subordinates". And don't disrespect victims in Tsunami by pretending that they were ever under the authority of the United States. Frankly, your assumption that Bush is leader of the "free world" entrenches the populer mindset that Pax Americana owns other soveriegn nations.

Finally, you're assuming a moral framework that intervention is a good thing. That in itself is a debateable point but I'll spare all of you from my evil Objectivist rhetoric that I don't fully buy into.

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Surely he could afford to give a personal donation of .25million at least. [/B]


Nice that you know his personal situation enough to actually throw out a ballpark figure. You could probably afford to do a bit more than you have, too.
2005-01-03, 4:05 PM #36
For once, I have to take issue with Flexor. ;)

You're making it sould like other tragedies of lessor scale go unreported and un-aided. We hear reports of them all the time and aid is routinely given by most of the countries that can to those that need. Here we have possibly the biggest ammount of people ever affected by a natural disaster and your point is that that many people or more die every year anyway. Well guess what? They all still did plus all these people virtually in a single day. What the heck is your point?
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2005-01-03, 4:06 PM #37
this is waaaay off topic, but I read this thread as

"George the Second fails to detonate"
2005-01-03, 4:10 PM #38
I think all of you need to realize something very important. The US government and various companies are donating 350 million. Bush (the man, and the billionaire) has not personally donated anything. He's simply throwing tax money their way.

You all should really lay off of SAJN on this one, because he's alot more in the right. I don't know why he's donating, but he is. I'm not, for two reasons. One, I don't have money, and two, well, I just don't have any money, but if I did, I probably still wouldn't, because I need my money to go to school etc...

Reading comprehension is a very valuable skill. When someone says that George W. Bush has not donated money, the 350 million donated by the government doesn't count, because it's not his money. If Bush writes a check for 350 million dollars to Sri Lanka or Indonesia, then SAJN will become wrong, but until then, he isn't.
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2005-01-03, 4:11 PM #39
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Originally posted by Flexor
When you think about it, 150 000 dead isn't that big a deal. It's just the fact that it was all in one event that makes it so shocking. If you cummulate all the deaths of all the quakes, floods and storms around the globe for a year, I'm sure it'll top that number by alot. So why not give money to help the victims of those disasters instead?


And one thing that makes this bigger is that thousands of people from Europe and many other western countries were killed, as well. It surely draws attention. The donations won't go to those "suffering" western countries, but the extra attention here was vital to get so much money to move so fast.
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2005-01-03, 4:16 PM #40
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Originally posted by Wookie06
For once, I have to take issue with Flexor. ;)

You're making it sould like other tragedies of lessor scale go unreported and un-aided. We hear reports of them all the time and aid is routinely given by most of the countries that can to those that need. Here we have possibly the biggest ammount of people ever affected by a natural disaster and your point is that that many people or more die every year anyway. Well guess what? They all still did plus all these people virtually in a single day. What the heck is your point?


the reason why smaller ones go so unreported in the media is because they are smaller, nowhere near as widespread devistation and tradgedy, and the recovery is far easier and less expensive. most large developed nations could easly recover from a disaster where only one or two cities were affected. but many cities and may countries were affected and still haven't gotten into the true aftermath of the disaster.
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