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Am I the only one throwing my hands up in the air?
2004-04-21, 2:16 PM #41
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Jon, do everyone a favour, take some of these and try not to rupture anything.
2004-04-21, 2:19 PM #42
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blood Asp:
eh... you guys ***** too much. i see something like this as an opportunity for bioware to grow. ms can easily dump funds into bioware, much more than any other company. but i dunno. i personally found kotor to be a bit dumb.</font>
I don't think they need funds. They have tons of games that sell well across a variety of platforms. MS didn't buy them so they could pump money into them, they bought them to get more exclusive titles.



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2004-04-21, 2:40 PM #43
Jon'C, there is a line between a dissenting opinion and being insulting and alienating. I think you've crossed that on the matter of Halo.

edit: Also, is there a difference between Xbox and PC Halo other than console and controls?
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2004-04-21, 2:45 PM #44
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brian:
I don't think they need funds. They have tons of games that sell well across a variety of platforms. MS didn't buy them so they could pump money into them, they bought them to get more exclusive titles.</font>


xbox doesn't have many exclusive titles. ps2 and gamecube have quite a few. i don't see what is so wrong with ms trying to get more. game titles are the bread and butter of any console, profit-wise.


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2004-04-21, 2:58 PM #45
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
edit: Also, is there a difference between Xbox and PC Halo other than console and controls?</font>


yes. the vehicles, weapons, races and extra levels. but in all honesty, halo is much better on a console because you don't have the ability to use a mouse for fine-tuning your view. there's a serious learning curve to the xbox version.

i never really got into halo for PC because it doesn't have the same feel. it's much more fun to have 4 tvs and tons of people crowded around cursing at each other than to just play with people you don't know. i will openly admit that there are many things that i don't like about halo, but i have such a good time going nuts with my friends that i can easily overlook the flaws.

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2004-04-21, 4:27 PM #46
I'm a gamecube man myself. I hate the X-Box with a passion. I love Halo. It's all about the multiplayer baby...If you can find one of the 3 servers that don't lag in Halo it's worth it, or if your just playing on the X-XBox with 4 friends. I own the PC version. I enjoy it.

besides didnt Microsoft have to do with Age of Mythology? That game freaking ROCKS!!!!!

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2004-04-21, 4:35 PM #47
First off, about the real purpose of this topic, I am saddened and disturbed by this news, although gabe said that the internal guys said no, and so i'm goign with him at the moment. Also, Microsoft will not let BioWare grow. Restriction to one console will not be good for bioware, and they are by no means short on funds, especially with the sucess of KotOR.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
...okay, what games have Microsoft ruined?

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Easy: Deus Ex 2. That was going to be an awesome game, they moved it to XBox, and now it sucks. Hard.

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2004-04-21, 5:44 PM #48
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Blood Asp:
yes. the vehicles, weapons, races and extra levels. but in all honesty, halo is much better on a console because you don't have the ability to use a mouse for fine-tuning your view. there's a serious learning curve to the xbox version.

i never really got into halo for PC because it doesn't have the same feel. it's much more fun to have 4 tvs and tons of people crowded around cursing at each other than to just play with people you don't know. i will openly admit that there are many things that i don't like about halo, but i have such a good time going nuts with my friends that i can easily overlook the flaws.

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Just skimming through and decided to quote Mr. Aspy because I fully agree. Between my friends and I there are 3 xboxes, 3 PS2's, and 2 NGC's, and just about every popular multiplayer games for them and we still choose Halo more often than all the other games combined to waste our friday nights away. I find it's the smoothest feeling FPS on a console, even with the "OMG leik teh HUG3!" xbox controller...

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2004-04-21, 7:49 PM #49
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">xbox doesn't have many exclusive titles. ps2 and gamecube have quite a few. i don't see what is so wrong with ms trying to get more. game titles are the bread and butter of any console, profit-wise.</font>
I don't have a problem with exclusive titles, but when MS buys a game developer, all of a sudden they ONLY develop titles for their system(s). And they want people to move away from Windows gaming, thus the "2 years later it shows up on PC" syndrome.

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2004-04-21, 8:03 PM #50
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Noble Outlaw:


Easy: Deus Ex 2. That was going to be an awesome game, they moved it to XBox, and now it sucks. Hard.

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uhm DX2 wasn't moved to xbox... it's available for pc... just because they released an xbox version doesn't make it suck

anyway... you don't need multiple tvs or splitscreen to enjoy halo MP... you CAN play system link games over the internet if you want...

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2004-04-21, 9:04 PM #51
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brian:
And they want people to move away from Windows gaming, thus the "2 years later it shows up on PC" syndrome.
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Isn't that kind of counter productive though? Windows is the major gaming platform in the PC department and if they push people away then I see no real reason not to ditch windows altogther for for an OS that doesn't require you to sell a kidney to a nigerian organ harvester to afford.

Lots of people maintain windows partitions/systems solely for gaming and if MS pushes people towards the Xbox then I suspect MS will lose a substantial amount of business.

I'm just curious BTW, not arguing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
2004-04-21, 9:16 PM #52
Jon'C: Holy f***ing s**t man, calm down. Try to act like a normal, civilized, rational human being for a few moments, it will do you some good.

I used to have a good deal of respect for you. I still have nothing but respect for you, but very, very little of that. I'm going to just end this right here. I won't reduce myself down to your pitiful name-calling level. Maybe some other time, after you've taken your Ritalin, we can have an intelligent conversation.
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2004-04-22, 3:12 AM #53
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brian:
I don't have a problem with exclusive titles, but when MS buys a game developer, all of a sudden they ONLY develop titles for their system(s). And they want people to move away from Windows gaming, thus the "2 years later it shows up on PC" syndrome.</font>


but seriously, how many companies do nintendo and sony own? everybody freaks just because microsoft buys a company, but if sony or nintendo bought bioware, the story would be entirely different.
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2004-04-22, 3:34 AM #54
Yep...this is why I rarely post here anymore...much less make a topic of my own.

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2004-04-22, 7:29 AM #55
NOOOO. I wanted that new Asian Adventures title to not suck!

Crap crap crap. Was anyone else waiting for Jade Empire?

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2004-04-22, 7:32 AM #56
Let me add just a little bit more fuel to this fire. Did you know that Bioware was one of the few gaming companies that actually supported Linux? NWN is available on Linux. Not only does MS start making a killing and forcing people to buy xboxes, but they also delete one of the major players from the linux gaming crowd.

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2004-04-22, 7:50 AM #57
MS bought out FASAInteractive, as well as the whole of FASA. Which basically meant that any MechWarrior games from here on in are destined to suck, appear on the X-Box, or to not happen at all.

MW5 was canned because(among other reasons) it could only be sold to old men and peoples dads(to very loosley paraphrase one of the art department developers). Which isn't entirely untrue... But us oldish men have to do something to keep us occupied. Arrrr!

EA are the mother of all evil games companies though.
2004-04-22, 7:51 AM #58
How long do you think it will take before Microsoft buys out all the major game developers and has them developing games only for their consoles so they can free up Windows PCs for the "developers, developers, developers..."

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2004-04-22, 8:25 AM #59
I read a statistic somewhere that MS's revenues could drop to zero and they'd have enough money in the bank to stay alive for at least 5 years before they had to lay anyone off!

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2004-04-22, 4:31 PM #60
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrkJedi82:
uhm DX2 wasn't moved to xbox... it's available for pc... just because they released an xbox version doesn't make it suck</font>


I know very well it's available on PC. i bought it (not a good investment, i might add, but oh, well). The thing was, the dev team ended up almsot completely redoing the game because it was made available on the XBox, and since then it sucked.

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2004-04-22, 6:13 PM #61
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Noble Outlaw:
I know very well it's available on PC. i bought it (not a good investment, i might add, but oh, well). The thing was, the dev team ended up almsot completely redoing the game because it was made available on the XBox, and since then it sucked.

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i'll let you in on a secret... they didn't end up "almost completely redoing" the game to bring it to xbox it is what it always was going to be... it's a good game but since it's the sequel to a great game with some new-ish ideas and it didn't really bring in any new-ish ideas to add to what deus-ex already brought in so it dissapointed many people...

i rented the xbox version and it's one of the few recent games that has sucked me into playing it for hours in one sitting without actually noticing until i looked at the clock



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