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I desperately crave your attention.
2005-02-19, 6:39 PM #1
Hi everyone, look at me!

I have lots of girl problems.
My grades in school are low 90's.
I am in really bad shape, my health declining.
I wrote a really stupid poem about a girl problem.
I have over 3000 posts.
My friend once convinced me that I was batman, and now I fight crime in my free time.

I ALSO MUST ADMIT I have hit rock bottom!

[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/Jedi_Legend/alf.jpg]



Last night I saw Constantine and felt moved. I decided to come to grips with my religious beliefs. I drove, my car steering my mind into darkness, madness. Lights disappeared, kidnapped by the wilderness. Alone, all alone, I looked forward, waiting to hit a deer. But not this time. I finally came to a stop sign... maybe God was looking out for me. Maybe this is symbolic of life: we get into dark, troubling times, finding no escape. Our emotions blind us. But there is always another road home. I travelled west, the west that once was wild---full of dreams---finding only a gravel road. Bouncing up and down, my eyes losing focus, I kept hitting the gas pedal. The road, hitting the climax of bumpiness, finally smooths. The lights blind me, love at last sight. But I find my way home. An act of God?

Where was God when I tried to talk to her today but couldn't find the courage or words?

Was God solving the problem in Sudan? No, people still suffer.

Was God helping the victims of the Tsunami? No, give human beings credit for that.

I'm tired of Christian morality. Where do those come from? Everyone is doing everything to get into Heaven, but I'll bet that Heaven is just a neat little lie. We're climbing, alright, but the peak isn't paradise. And frankly, who cares? I like living here on Earth. I can live for the day, pushing that boulder up life's mountain. I would do it all over again. I would pick her up and pay for her to dance with me, even though I know how much it'll hurt. I'd drive down that dark road again, even though I know I felt alone and afraid. I WANT TO LIVE WITH THE PAIN! I feel so much more alive when I bleed. I try to get over her, and then I see her and I feel that sweet, sweet pain again, my vocal chords entering a state of death. But what makes happiness a better emotion than sadness? It's all a social construct. Either one is good.

If I died tommorrow, I wonder how I would be remembered... if remembered at all. I'm an attention whore now... I'm losing it.

Thanks.
2005-02-19, 6:43 PM #2
I'm with you.
D E A T H
2005-02-19, 6:44 PM #3
Who'd want to be remembered?
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2005-02-19, 6:47 PM #4
I really hope you're not trying to blame God for not having the courage to talk to this girl.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2005-02-19, 6:57 PM #5
Quote:
Originally posted by Kieran Horn
I really hope you're not trying to blame God for not having the courage to talk to this girl.


No, I know who is to blame. Santa Claus! If he'd only given me that courage I asked for this year, I'd have told this girl where she can take the heart she ripped out my chest.

But nothing really matters.
2005-02-19, 7:06 PM #6
I hate Alf.
2005-02-19, 7:06 PM #7
You went from pining over her to a slightly creepy loathing. You scare me. O_o *reaches for taser for protection*
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2005-02-19, 7:15 PM #8
Why stop at a taser, Kieran? I'm dangerous. You might need something more powerful.
2005-02-19, 7:20 PM #9
Post that girl poem. I'm curious.
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
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2005-02-19, 7:22 PM #10
Code:
               The Red Rose 
      The rose sits---alone---in the light,
   the thorn---hiding in the shadow---breaks my,
             fragile skin,
      the blood dripping redder than,
                 her hair,
         as she thirsts for spring’s,

                  pain.

                      
 —Steve Hengeli
2005-02-19, 7:27 PM #11
nice
"The only crime I'm guilty of is love [of china]"
- Ruthven
me clan me mod
2005-02-19, 7:35 PM #12
/sips latte and snaps fingers
Think while it's still legal.
2005-02-19, 7:39 PM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
/sips latte and snaps fingers


You forgot the bongos!

:mad: :cool:
D E A T H
2005-02-19, 7:41 PM #14
They are spiritual sound expressers!!!!
Think while it's still legal.
2005-02-19, 8:00 PM #15
Yeah, I get in times like this. My friend and I usually sit there and the conversation sometimes gets to how we wished we could believe in God; but we can't so we live on.

The best thing is just to walk up to her and tell her. What if you never do? I did this once in high school with this one guy I practically worshiped. And to make matters worse, I forgot I had let my friends draw all over my face with those gel pens. It hurts no matter which way it goes, but it is better to get it out there. (Of course, I'm still trying to build up courage to do this with someone >_>)
"Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it."
2005-02-19, 8:08 PM #16
Ah, but there lies the problem. I feel I've spent all my courage on her. Let's recap past events:

1) I call her despite my better judgement and tell her how I feel. But she's actually dating my friend at the time, so I don't do anything and in fact I started to get over her.
2) I got over her, then she breaks up with her boyfriend. I recall how she mentioned something about "if circumstances were different..."
3) Lots of flirtation initiated by her. All my friends tell me to "go for it."
4) yadda yadda kiss yadda yadda New Year's
5) She asks me to go to WPA with her.
6) I use up all my courage to ask her to go swing dancing with me a week before.

I find out that I was wrong about how she felt. When I see her now, I feel overwhelmed and I lose that confidence I once had.
2005-02-19, 8:17 PM #17
But that took a lot of courage to call her up. Just try not to dwell on it as much - respect her descion. I think persistance kills a lot of interest the other person may have. Just keep your chin up and who knows
"Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it."
2005-02-19, 9:15 PM #18
Ok, enough of this. I'm reclaiming my sanity.

She's just another girl on this planet who doesn't want me. Her loss. I could have made her quite happy, but whateevr. I guess I'll just have to find someone else. There's nothing special about her. Hell, I don't even like red hair. It's not a very attractive color.
2005-02-19, 9:29 PM #19
Congratulations on your thinking postively :) . That's the key to getting out of problems like these; taking a good look and asking yourself if it's really worth making such a fuss.
Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-02-20, 12:01 AM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by Final_Hope__
Congratulations on your thinking postively :) . That's the key to getting out of problems like these; taking a good look and asking yourself if it's really worth making such a fuss.


Exactly!
"Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it."
2005-02-20, 12:14 AM #21
Yay, I feel like I said something important! :o
Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
2005-02-20, 3:15 AM #22
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Originally posted by Final_Hope__
Yay, I feel like I said something important! :o


But now you ruined it again!
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enshu
2005-02-20, 6:28 AM #23
I saw a button yesterday that said "Please ring for attention" on the bowling alley bar.
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2005-02-20, 6:38 AM #24
Yes. I'm sure God sent his son to die on the cross, just so he can laugh at us when we die. :rolleyes: (He's also not in business to make sure everyone's dates turn out properly.)
2005-02-20, 6:48 AM #25
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Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
Yes. I'm sure God sent his son to die on the cross, just so he can laugh at us when we die. :rolleyes: (He's also not in business to make sure everyone's dates turn out properly.)


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enshu
2005-02-20, 6:59 AM #26
I'm confused. Why should the lord of creation give you courage to talk to a girl? Or why should God help the Tsunami victims? What do you want him to do, bring everyone back to life?
Christian morality comes from God. That's a big point of the religion.

Oh and what makes happiness better than sadness? Mainly the fact that you feel crummy when you're sad and you don't when your not.
It took a while for you to find me; I was hiding in the lime tree.
2005-02-20, 7:31 AM #27
Since when has ANYTHING come from God? I don't recall him giving us any morals besides from the 10 commandments, and a little bit of wrath here and there over sodomy.

It is within God's power to give JL the courage to talk to girls, A MERCIFUL GOD WOULD DO IT.

Contrary to what Jesus said, he's is truly not a merciful God.

People at my school always wonder why I laugh during morning prayers, to quote Rod(Todd?) Flanders "Thank you for sending Lisa to save us from the bug you sent"
God didn't send Lisa, Lisa went. (chances are he didn't send the bug either)
The reason that I laugh at the prayers is the bitter irony...
Here might be 3 days topics
Monday: God is merciful
Tuesday: People are horrible wretches, all things God does is good.
Wednesday: God won't help you, so help yourself, and when do you help yourself, or if someone else helps you, God did it

After the tsunami disaster in asia, they actually tried to blame humanity, like we deserved it or something. I'm 100% sure that a good portion of the New Testament, AKA the book my religion is based says that God is merciful, but sending tsunamis as punishment for our wicked deeds is apparently not outside His agenda. GOOD JOB CATHOLIC INSTITUTION!
2005-02-20, 10:15 AM #28
Mikus: you forgot the [/flamebait] tag. But I agree with you, to a certain extent, I think...

I'm going to leave this thread now.
Stuff
2005-02-20, 11:08 AM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by kyle90
Mikus: you forgot the [/flamebait] tag. But I agree with you, to a certain extent, I think...

I'm going to leave this thread now.


Kind of have to agree. Bashing the religion (namely God and Catholics) isn't the way to go. Laughing during prayer is also rather disrespectful. I had to be in a Catholic church for my friend's wedding and granted I didn't pray while in there, but I didn't laugh when they read scriptures or did those things Catholics do.
"Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it."
2005-02-20, 1:35 PM #30
Courage is not a finite resource. It is only limited by the person using it.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2005-02-20, 4:10 PM #31
You know, it makes me real sad to see people go throug ha hard time in their life, blame it on God, and decide they're on their own. Mikus, how. the. hell. can you say God sent the tsunami to punish mankind? I don't understand the tsunami events and I don't think you do either. But just because it happened doesn't mean it's God's fault. It is so easy for us to blame things on God and say he walked away from us then to consider that maybe we walked away from him. I have done this myself, so I am not pointing fingers judgementally and I am not accusing anyone of anything. But I know that I've wanted things and I ask God for them and he never gives them to me. Why? Maybe because he already has something bigger and better for me if I just listen to him rather than myself, or maybe what I want will only hurt me. Blaming God won't get you anywhere. It never got me anything I wanted or needed. Why do we think we can treat God like some genii to give us everything we ask for and then return to our pocket until the next time we want something?
"I'm interested in the fact that the less secure a person is, the more likely it is for that person to have extreme prejudices." -Clint Eastwood
2005-02-20, 4:18 PM #32
/me points and stares
Hazard a company one process.
2005-02-20, 4:51 PM #33
Two questions: When is your birthday? Is she hot?

A long-winded life is not an example of mercy.

Also, what's up with those commas? Let the words speak for themselves. Sorry.
"When it's time for this planet to die, you'll understand that you know absolutely nothing." — Bugenhagen
2005-02-20, 6:13 PM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by Mikus
Since when has ANYTHING come from God? I don't recall him giving us any morals besides from the 10 commandments, and a little bit of wrath here and there over sodomy.

It is within God's power to give JL the courage to talk to girls, A MERCIFUL GOD WOULD DO IT.

Well for starters, the Bible is the word of God, and that's full of moral things. He sent Jesus, a guy who taught a lot of morals. Can you explain your position? :confused:

Why would a merciful God do it? If the lad has no spine, guts, or other body parts needed to talk to someone, that's his own fault. Just ask pagewizard.
Quote:

I'm 100% sure that a good portion of the New Testament, AKA the book my religion is based says that God is merciful...
Are you in some kind of cult that supports disregarding the old testament, knowing nothing about God and laughing during prayers? :rolleyes: God is not a panzy. The bible makes that very clear. Being merciful does not equal being a pushover. In fact, show me where the New Testament says that God is only capable of mercy and no other trait. If not, then please stop being ignorant.
It took a while for you to find me; I was hiding in the lime tree.
2005-02-20, 6:54 PM #35
Quote:
http://www.luminary.us/nz/zarathustra.html

"Why," said the saint, "did I go into the forest and the desert? Was it not because I loved mankind far too well? Now I love God! Mankind I do not love; mankind is a thing too imperfect for me. Love of mankind would be fatal to me."

Zarathustra answered: "Did I speak of love? I am bringing a gift for mankind."

"Give them nothing!" said the saint. "Take rather part of their load, and carry it along for them - that will be most agreeable to them, if only it be agreeable to you. If, however, you want to give them something, give no more than alms, and let them beg for that!"

"No," replied Zarathustra, "I will give no alms. I am not poor enough for that."

The saint laughed at Zarathustra, and spoke: "Then see to it that they accept your treasures! They are mistrustful of hermits, and do not believe that we come to give. The fall of our footsteps rings hollow through their streets. And what if at at night, when they are sleeping in their beds, they hear a man walking abroad long before sunrise? Will they not ask themselves: 'Where goes the thief?'

"Go not to mankind, but stay in the forest! Go rather even to the animals! Do you not want to be like me - a bear among bears, a bird among birds?"

"And what does the saint do in the forest?" asked Zarathustra.

The saint answered: "I compose hymns and I sing them; and in making hymns I laugh and I weep and I hum: thus do I praise God. By singing, weeping, laughing, and humming I praise the God who is my God. So, do you bring us a gift?"

When Zarathustra had heard these words, he bowed to the saint and said: "What could I have to give to you? I should leave now lest I take something away from you!" - And thus they parted, the old man and Zarathustra, laughing like two schoolboys.

But when Zarathustra was alone, he spoke to his heart: "Could it be possible? This old saint in the forest has not yet heard the news, that God is dead!"

--- Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra
2005-02-20, 8:47 PM #36
Is it really love if you are not willing to commit suicide over it? I'm not saying anyone should, but I'm just wondering. Any thoughts?
"When it's time for this planet to die, you'll understand that you know absolutely nothing." — Bugenhagen
2005-02-20, 9:13 PM #37
That is a depressing thought, and this is my best answer for it.

If you, in any way, equate love with depression, you probably either have serious mental issues, or you're a teenager.
"I got kicked off the high school debate team for saying 'Yeah? Well, **** you!'
... I thought I had won."
2005-02-20, 9:52 PM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by UltimatePotato
Are you in some kind of cult that supports disregarding the old testament, knowing nothing about God and laughing during prayers?


Yep, it's called Catholicism.

The WHOLE POINT of Jesus was to be like: Hey dudes, God isn't smiting anyone anymore, so worship him and shiznat, word.

Catholics have decided to pretend that this didn't happen and God still hates gays and causes floods.
2005-02-20, 10:04 PM #39
Quote:
Originally posted by Mikus
Yep, it's called Catholicism.

The WHOLE POINT of Jesus was to be like: Hey dudes, God isn't smiting anyone anymore, so worship him and shiznat, word.

Catholics have decided to pretend that this didn't happen and God still hates gays and causes floods.


Your title should be "knowledge deficient"

I know a lot of catholics. And about 90% of them hate the stereotypes, and are nothing LIKE the stereotypes.

Think before you post something stupid next time, Mikus.
D E A T H
2005-02-20, 10:15 PM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Your title should be "knowledge deficient"

I know a lot of catholics. And about 90% of them hate the stereotypes, and are nothing LIKE the stereotypes.

Think before you post something stupid next time, Mikus.


Really...the nicest people I know are Catholics. Just because they believe a certain thing doesn't mean that's all they talk about 24/7. They've also not been all condescending like people from other religions. And why are you picking on Catholics by the way? If you're going to go and bash beliefs in God (and I'm assuming higher powers) at least be equal :P
"Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it."
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