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I love the human race
2005-03-12, 12:13 PM #41
First, we aren't granted any rights. Not in the US anyway. What is true is that the government is restricted from limiting our rights. Now, what rights does the Patriot Act limit? I haven't noticed anything since it was enacted and I have heard no American tell any personal stories of how they are being affected negatively by the Act.

I'm sure there may be some problems with the Patriot Act and maybe the next time around the senators that now oppose it despite voting for it will actually debate it and offer some constructive changes.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-03-12, 12:25 PM #42
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Obi calling something else stupid...isn't that like...something to do with a pot...and a color...

Well, you see where I'm going with this.


Um, No. But you do it all the time, so I guess you'd know better than me.
2005-03-12, 12:45 PM #43
Quote:
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
Um, No. But you do it all the time, so I guess you'd know better than me.

Wow, you really don't know where he's going with that...
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2005-03-12, 12:54 PM #44
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
I haven't noticed anything since it was enacted and I have heard no American tell any personal stories of how they are being affected negatively by the Act.


Surveillance Under the USA PATRIOT Act

Well, you won't notice anything since one of the main problems with the Act is the unconstitutional powers of secrecy that it gives the FBI. :p

I don't know if problems are occurring now (though it's very possible), however it certainly opens the door for future abuses.
2005-03-12, 1:22 PM #45
Quote:
Originally posted by Wuss
Surveillance Under the USA PATRIOT Act

Well, you won't notice anything since one of the main problems with the Act is the unconstitutional powers of secrecy that it gives the FBI. :p

I don't know if problems are occurring now (though it's very possible), however it certainly opens the door for future abuses.


Thanks for looking that up for me wolfy :)
D E A T H
2005-03-12, 2:49 PM #46
An ACLU article? The same organization that protects pedophiles? :rolleyes:
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-03-12, 2:59 PM #47
NO COMMENT
Nothing to see here, move along.
2005-03-12, 4:20 PM #48
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
An ACLU article? The same organization that protects pedophiles? :rolleyes:


Excuse me?
D E A T H
2005-03-12, 4:42 PM #49
He means NAMBLA.

"Wow, you all really do look a lot like Marlon Brando."
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2005-03-12, 5:02 PM #50
Hahahah. Nice one Emon.
D E A T H
2005-03-12, 5:09 PM #51
I don't get it.

Like I said, I'm sure there are some problems with the Patriot Act. I just happen to disagree with much of what the ACLU said in that short article.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-03-12, 9:59 PM #52
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Thanks for looking that up for me wolfy :)


I'm Wuss, but you are welcome anyway. ;)

Also, Wookie... which parts of the Patriot Act do you have problems with? I think that makes a big difference in the debate. For example, I have no problem in streamlining the process that allows law enforcement agencies to share information. However, I am opposed to searches and seizures without warrants and secret searches. It's unconstitutional and just opens the door for abuse. You don't want some future psycho administration rifling through your property in secret simply because you didn't vote for them (and neither do I!).

C’mon, you are a conservative! It’s all about the small government, man, the small government! ;)

[Also, I just found this article. I thought it was interesting and relevant: Poll: 7 in 10 Worried About Government Secrecy]
2005-03-12, 10:42 PM #53
*sigh*

The things I start.
2005-03-13, 6:14 PM #54
You say that as if it is bad that people are talking about important political issues.
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