Massassi Forums Logo

This is the static archive of the Massassi Forums. The forums are closed indefinitely. Thanks for all the memories!

You can also download Super Old Archived Message Boards from when Massassi first started.

"View" counts are as of the day the forums were archived, and will no longer increase.

ForumsDiscussion Forum → Wow... This young man is in some SERIOUS (times a million) trouble!
12
Wow... This young man is in some SERIOUS (times a million) trouble!
2005-04-21, 4:41 AM #1
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/04/20/berkeley_laptop_thie.html

Lets just say, if I was that guy, I'd kill myself.

Read this, and understand why :eek:

Quote:
Professor Jasper Rine lectures at UC Berkeley. Recently his laptop was stolen by a thief who was after exam data. Unfortunately for the thief, Professor Rine had some important stuff on that laptop.

The webcast of last Friday's Biology 1A lecture gets very interesting at timecode 48:50. I've transcribed Prof Rine's comments here, so you can see what a world of **** the thief is in:

"Thanks Gary. I have a message for one person in this audience - I'm sorry the rest of you have to sit through this. As you know, my computer was stolen in my last lecture. The thief apparently wanted to betray everybody's trust, and was after the exam.

The thief was smart not to plug the computer into the campus network, but the thief was not smart enough to do three things: he was not smart enough to immediately remove Windows. I installed the same version of Windows on another computer - within fifteen minutes the people in Redmond Washington were very interested to know why it was that the same version of Windows was being signalled to them from two different computers.

The thief also did not inactivate either the wireless card or the transponder that's in that computer. Within about an hour, there was a signal from various places on campus that's allowed us to track exactly where that computer went every time that it was turned on.

I'm not particularly concerned about the computer. But the thief, who thought he was only stealing an exam, is presently - we think - is probably still in possession of three kinds of data, any one of which can send this man, this young boy, actually, to federal prison. Not a good place for a young boy to be.

You are in possession of data from a hundred million dollar trial, sponsored by the NIH, for which I'm a consultant. This involves some of the largest companies on the planet, the NIH investigates these things through the FBI, they have been notified about this problem.

You are in possession of trade secrets from a Fortune 1000 biotech company, the largest one in the country, which I consult for. The Federal Trade Communication is very interested in this. Federal Marshals are the people who handle that.

You are in possession of proprietary data from a pre-public company planning an IPO. The Securities and Exchange Commission is very interested in this and I don't even know what branch of law enforcement they use.

Your academic career is about to come to an end. You are facing very serious charges, with a probability of very serious time. At this point, there's very little that anybody can do for you. One thing that you can do for yourself is to somehow prove that the integrity of the data which you possess has not been corrupted or copied.

Ironically, I am the only person on the planet that can come to your aid, because I am the only person that can tell whether the data that was on that computer are still on that computer. You will have to find a way of hoping that if you've copied anything that you can prove you only have one copy of whatever was made.

I am tied up all this afternoon; I am out of town all of next week. You have until 11:55 to return the computer, and whatever copies you've made, to my office, because I'm the only hope you've got of staying out of deeper trouble than you or any student I've ever known has ever been in.

I apologise to the rest of you for having to bring up this distasteful matter, but I will point out that we have a partial image of this person, we have two eyewitnesses, with the transponder data we're going to get this person."
Got a permanent feather in my cap;
Got a stretch to my stride;
a stroll to my step;
2005-04-21, 4:49 AM #2
I saw this on FARK earlier but skimmed it. I'm so very glad you posted it :)

Damn you've gotta be feeling stupid when he's telling you all this in your lecture. And fairly pink I suspect too.

Youch.
2005-04-21, 4:49 AM #3
You'll never take me alive, copper.
My blog! http://rpg-rant.blogspot.com/
2005-04-21, 4:52 AM #4
Kay. *BANG*
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2005-04-21, 4:54 AM #5
"Then after a wet thud, there was silence"

lolol
2005-04-21, 5:05 AM #6
He's just bluffing.
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-04-21, 5:19 AM #7
How do they know it's a guy who stole it?
Xbox Live/PlayStation Network/Steam: tone217
http://twitter.com/ourmatetone
2005-04-21, 5:24 AM #8
They have two eyewitnesses



Just kidding, they're dead
2005-04-21, 5:36 AM #9
Good professor. Mm.
Star Wars: TODOA | DXN - Deus Ex: Nihilum
2005-04-21, 5:55 AM #10
Haha!

The guy won't hide from Windows!
2005-04-21, 7:23 AM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by Impi
He's just bluffing.


Seconded!

Scare tactics work wonders though.

Wow, on second read, comon, that guy is definately fibbing.

What next, is the ark of the covenant installed?
2005-04-21, 7:23 AM #12
Give the guy a break, he only stole a laptop!!! How was he to know it had all that ridiculous american top secret grand national conglomerate crap on there as well?

Just deal with him for stealing the lap top, nothing else, there are REAL criminals out there, the corrupt government officials who take bribes to cut down wildlife reserves, the oil barons who buy out other technologies just so they cant be used, the mafia, the gangs, the rapists....

God this world is a stupid place

but i suppose if it didnt suck, we'd all fall off.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Code:
if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}
2005-04-21, 7:25 AM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by Ruthven

but i suppose if it didnt suck, we'd all fall off.


Nice quote, heh.
2005-04-21, 7:48 AM #14
Wait- how'd Microsoft track him? I'm pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't actively moniter windows copies... :confused:
2005-04-21, 7:52 AM #15
Quote:
Originally posted by Lord Kuat
Seconded!

Scare tactics work wonders though.

Wow, on second read, comon, that guy is definately fibbing.

What next, is the ark of the covenant installed?


Yeah, I say it's got his kiddy porn stash on it.
The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.
2005-04-21, 7:55 AM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
Wait- how'd Microsoft track him? I'm pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't actively moniter windows copies... :confused:

When you activate the same copy of Windows on another computer (when it is already installed on one), Microsoft is usually polite enough to ask you why you're breaking the EULA. :p

It happened to my mom's friend, she was handing out copies of Office 2003 to her buddies (my mom knew better, she didn't ask for one), and she got a call from MS. They asked her to take back the copies she made and to ask the people to uninstall their copies.
2005-04-21, 8:13 AM #17
Why couldn't the kid have stolen the laptop with the source code for JK instead?
Life is beautiful.
2005-04-21, 8:28 AM #18
Wow, that would stink bigtime. That kid's hosed if that guy's not bluffing.
2005-04-21, 9:35 AM #19
This professor is supposed to have some top secret files on his computer and he didn't encrypt them?
Suuuuure... :rolleyes:
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-04-21, 9:36 AM #20
Heh heh. Gotta say that was an innovative story! After all that trouble, I hope the man gets his laptop back. Of course it depends on how stupid and timid the thief is...
Frozen in the past by ICARUS
2005-04-21, 9:39 AM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by Rogue Leader
Why couldn't the kid have stolen the laptop with the source code for JK instead?


Because it would be illegal to download the source code to an 8 year old game.


Even then, it's not going to help you. I can think of but a few people here that could DO something with the source code. And they probably don't care.
2005-04-21, 11:32 AM #22
Quote:
Originally posted by Impi
This professor is supposed to have some top secret files on his computer and he didn't encrypt them?
Suuuuure... :rolleyes:


He didn't say it was likely the person could easily access them- afterall, the teacher mentioned he was the only one that could find them. It's just the fact that the kid has them in his posession.

Smells mostly like BS, but never know.
"We came, we saw, we conquered, we...woke up!"
2005-04-21, 11:33 AM #23
Well.. If the thieft was in class, you would be able to smell him, because he would have **** himself.
Got a permanent feather in my cap;
Got a stretch to my stride;
a stroll to my step;
2005-04-21, 12:09 PM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
When you activate the same copy of Windows on another computer (when it is already installed on one), Microsoft is usually polite enough to ask you why you're breaking the EULA. :p

It happened to my mom's friend, she was handing out copies of Office 2003 to her buddies (my mom knew better, she didn't ask for one), and she got a call from MS. They asked her to take back the copies she made and to ask the people to uninstall their copies.



Really? I've done that and I've never had any issues with MS.
2005-04-21, 12:24 PM #25
Freaking Cal students. :rolleyes:
Pissed Off?
2005-04-21, 12:30 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
When you activate the same copy of Windows on another computer (when it is already installed on one), Microsoft is usually polite enough to ask you why you're breaking the EULA. :p

It happened to my mom's friend, she was handing out copies of Office 2003 to her buddies (my mom knew better, she didn't ask for one), and she got a call from MS. They asked her to take back the copies she made and to ask the people to uninstall their copies.


heh! does that happen outside of the US? I'm using the copy of XP that... uh.. most of the internet is using, heh. .
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2005-04-21, 1:22 PM #27
I think the professor's an idiot, if it was that precious, he could've protected it a bit better. ;)
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2005-04-21, 2:23 PM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
When you activate the same copy of Windows on another computer (when it is already installed on one), Microsoft is usually polite enough to ask you why you're breaking the EULA. :p

Other Comupter software companies are starting to do that as well with games and such...
2005-04-21, 2:34 PM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by Mort-Hog
heh! does that happen outside of the US? I'm using the copy of XP that... uh.. most of the internet is using, heh. .


Bad bad bad! Shame on you! :banned:

Of course, I sorta am too. :o Or at least until MS releases XP 64 bit! :mad: No way am I going to pay for the same OS twice!
2005-04-21, 2:40 PM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Impi
He's just bluffing.

Good call... I dont see anything about that consulting bull****, just alumni info.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/03/29/stolen.laptop/
2005-04-22, 1:59 AM #31
This is all we've been talking about today at my house. Just spent about 3 hours cracking jokes about the incident with housemates. Funny stuff.
Pissed Off?
2005-04-22, 6:40 AM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
It happened to my mom's friend, she was handing out copies of Office 2003 to her buddies (my mom knew better, she didn't ask for one), and she got a call from MS. They asked her to take back the copies she made and to ask the people to uninstall their copies.


I think that's a lie, i happen to have *deleted and sued by microsoft*
nope.
2005-04-22, 11:25 AM #33
It sounds like a bluff to me.. Why would this professor have all this top secret stuff on his SCHOOL LAPTOP, if at all? Why save it to the hard disk? what if the computer was destroyed? what if this happened? sure, they might catch the guy, but their data could be EVERYWHERE ruining their topsecret plans... it wouldn't be worth the risk to have all this top secret info just sitting around on this professor's laptop.
||||||||||||||||||||
2005-04-22, 1:04 PM #34
Crap man, if I were to of taken that seriously, I'd of just left the lap top in the library, hidden and activated for them to "find it".
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2005-04-22, 1:35 PM #35
Heres why hes lying:

- "The thief also did not inactivate either the wireless card or the transponder that's in that computer. Within about an hour, there was a signal from various places on campus that's allowed us to track exactly where that computer went every time that it was turned on." - So why didnt they go and get the laptop?

- "You are in possession of trade secrets from a Fortune 1000 biotech company, the largest one in the country, which I consult for." - The largest bio-tech company in the US is 'Amgen' which is in R.I.

- "Ironically, I am the only person on the planet that can come to your aid, because I am the only person that can tell whether the data that was on that computer are still on that computer. You will have to find a way of hoping that if you've copied anything that you can prove you only have one copy of whatever was made." - No hes not, if the data was that crucial, Microsoft, or any computer expert for that matter, can figure out if and when it was changed, and how many copies were made.

Obviously this guy just wants to try and scare the "theif" to get his laptop back and it didnt work. Its been a month since is was stolen and no one has turned it in. If this important data was really stolen, the "FBI," "NIH" and "The Securities and Exchange Commission" would have pursued this by now, but the only thing the news has reported was the fact the laptop was stolen...nice try 'Jasper'
2005-04-22, 1:48 PM #36
anyone else notice the time given for when he stated this on the webcast, and the time given for him to get the laptop back to the prof.?
Holy soap opera Batman. - FGR
DARWIN WILL PREVENT THE DOWNFALL OF OUR RACE. - Rob
Free Jin!
2005-04-22, 2:10 PM #37
Quote:
Originally posted by Mort-Hog
heh! does that happen outside of the US? I'm using the copy of XP that... uh.. most of the internet is using, heh. .


don't you just love Winxp corporate edition? No activation, no way of MS knowing. :p
2005-04-22, 2:19 PM #38
I don't think I have corporate edition , I have XP professional , but there was no activation so I imagine it's cracked .
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2005-04-22, 3:03 PM #39
Hooray for MSDNAA alliance and unlimited copies of Windows 2000 (only one copy of XP Pro per student). 2000 is just as good as XP, and has less bloat.
Marsz, marsz, Dąbrowski,
Z ziemi włoskiej do Polski,
Za twoim przewodem
Złączym się z narodem.
2005-04-22, 6:34 PM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by Ric_Olie
Hooray for MSDNAA alliance and unlimited copies of Windows 2000 (only one copy of XP Pro per student). 2000 is just as good as XP, and has less bloat.


Except for games.
Got a permanent feather in my cap;
Got a stretch to my stride;
a stroll to my step;
12

↑ Up to the top!