http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/05/06/call.suspension.ap/index.html


This pisses me off.
Very, very much.

wow... thats rediculous. I mean, I can understand if the kid got violent or something... but if he just refused to hang up, thats rediculous.

wow, i'm glad we have such a loose policy on cells, ex: don't call people in class, and have it on silent, and whatever teacher disgresses on the matter

In my old HS you could just leave the class to take an important phone call.

Hmm, I wonder if this is the whole story. It just sounds ridiculous, giving someone suspension for that long (any at all is O.T.T.) - and at the end of the artical, the school made it sound like they were doing him a favor by not putting him in jail!

Wow, just, wow. There's no way they should have suspended him for that,

They should suspend the teacher.

I think the MBS needs to take care of this...

thats just rediculous. there have to be a few extrenuating circumstances.

Seems pretty stupid. Few things tht aren' in the article that could have happened: the kid could have been an *** to the teacher or the teacher coulc have been an *** about telling the kid to hang up the phone.

oh mom, could you call back? i'm in class, you know, there's plenty of phones and services for you to call me at other times of the day..... i mean, what do tahy want:?

The kid had it coming. If he were smart enough to go to the bathroom and then talk, that would've been another story.

I heard they took away some of the punishment.

Don't know if he should have been suspended since all the facts aren't presented. However, if its against the rules he shouldn't have been talking on his phone.

If i was that sudent i would had told the teacher to scod off and walked out of the school, and if they tried to restrait me i would flip em off.

but then again, that's just my highschool, its a scum school imho.

thank god im at college these days.

But that may very well have been the last conversation with his mother with the way things are still in Iraq. Personally, I think someone let power go to their head.

"But, it's my mom. She's in Iraq. Fighting bad guys"

"OMG1 YUO WILL LISTEN TO ME!!!!!!11"

Yeah, I mean who needs to talk to their mom who's in the military in Iraq who can't communicate often for the next year.

Pfft.

[not warranted]

I borrowed my friend's cell phone to call my mother to see if she was picking me up. This was at lunch. One of the hall bouncers tells me "Hey, give me that phone!" I turned to him and said "Unless you're going to ask my mother if she's picking me up, I think you can find your own." He told me "Get into the office, NOW!" And I'm like "Hang on, if you really need me to make you a call, I will. Don't get your panties wound up." So anyway, eventually he says "I'm going to have you removed from class." So sure enough, I get into class with a pass waiting for me. Get down to the office, and he brings me into the vice principal's office. She asks "What'd you do with the cell phone?" I said "What cell phone?"

In the end, they searched through all of my bags, I emptied my pockets, and they searched my locker. When they couldn't find a cell phone, they couldn't do a damn thing to me. I finalized the convorsation by saying: "Sorry to disapoint you. Next time you need to make a call, wait till I'm done and I'll let you use it then. You're a little late asking now." and I left. Now he always asks me if I've got that cell phone on me. Narharharhar!

JediKirby

of course, they fail to mention exactly the extent of his reaction:

He flicked the teacher off, cussed repetitively, and even became violent.

Thats what I figured.


But still... its not fair that he had to hang up his phone. Like I said, his mother is in Iraq. They probably dont get to speak a whole lot.

And the teacher probably did not know this, and the kid probably didn't bother to explain it either.

This is what I like to call jumping to conclusions.

And what to say of anything anyone else has posted here?
You automatically assume that the teacher was totally in the wrong, despite not knowing the situation.

Are you trying to tell me that if cell phones weren't allowed in school, that you would let your student use it anyway, just for the off chance he might be talking to his mother in Iraq? Especially if the kid reacts violently at you without explaining exactly who he is talking to and where?

Yeah, RIGHT. I bet. :p

The teacher was enforcing the rules. If the rules implied special circumstances like this then the teacher's actions would have be unfounded.

...You guys are all so good at sucking the tabloid teat.

Creating so much 'shock' and 'disgust' out of one report. If you just looked a little beyond that, you'd see how little they were actually telling you about the event, and how ridiculous it is to make any sort of judgement based on it. These sorts of stories serve only to get the public worked up over nothing.

I haven't assumed anything. I've actually stayed fairly neutral. I'm just saying, if the kid had told someone he was talking to his mother, and the situation, I'm pretty sure that it would've been easy for them to just let it go.

But I don't know what really happened.

And TimeWolf--sometimes, there are exceptions to the rule. You can speed if you're going to the hospital. You can kill someone if you can prove it's self defense. Etc, etc.

Yes, but I'm just saying that the teacher was enforcing the rules. That's the only clear thing in this, whether the student or teacher was a dick about it is not clear.

What I got:
-Kid on phone with mom in iraq
-Teacher, seeing this, tells kid to put phone away
-Kid EXPLAINS:



I don't care WHAT happens after that. The teacher f***s off after that, otherwise he is the greatest *** of the universe. This also shows that the school is a bunch of jerks:



I just want him to say "Are we not Mericful?" afterwards. I know these uptight, power-hungry losers, and there is nothing more or nothing less to this story. They should be lucky the kid didn't knock out that teacher's teeth.

Are you are Robot? When faced with complex situations, do you go BEEP-BOOP DOES NOT COMPUTE, ERROR!!!!

Humans are supposed to be equipped with, you know, logic, feelings, the ability to adapt to situations. Let's play the hitler card: But the concentration camp gaurds were JUST FOLLOWING THE RULEZZZ, they are teh innocent!. This does apply, because following the rules is not always the right thing to do. However, you seem to fail to understand that, which boggles the mind.

And Mr. SM_Trige, you sound like one of those guys that would say "It's her fault she was raped! She shoulda been smarter than to wear that miniskirt!". Again, think about it, really...

HIS MOM IS IN IRAQ FIGHTING A WAR.

Yeah, the Hitler card. Of all the topics, I would never thought that would ever be pulled here.

At least he wasn't suspended for not hanging up mom in Iraq lölz

woo!

Other articles beg to differ.

Like this one:





And another:





I'll believe a teacher over an F student with admitted chronic behavioral problems.

Hit me!

Hit me!

... Fold.

No, just that Wolf's posts were getting annoying, so I had to post in turn. Nice how he also didn't defend his position, because it isn't all that... incredibly intellegent.

It's still wrong to take the phone away from a kid who might never see his mom again. I don't care if he freakin' kills the teacher, the teacher had no right to take the phone away. How would you feel if it happened to you?

Also remember they will try to cover their own rears. I may not belive either, but I tend to belive that the kid did report that it was his mom on the phone. I think it depends on people's experiences with teachers. One lied and said I urinated on a disabled child. So of course, teachers are a bit suspect to me. They are humans, and may of them have their own problems. In any case, I'd rather not belive either, but upon finding out the circumstances, the school should give the kid a maximum of detention. It seems like you aren't putting yourself in the kid's shoes. It may be the last time the kid hears from his mom. And with his previous problems, his reaction could be expected. I'd tear the guy's throat out myself...

I didn't take a side, I just said the teacher was enforcing the rules. Not having all the facts I'm just going to defend what I know. You should do the same.

Yes, I heard you the first time. What could the kid have done to get suspended for 10 days? The teacher was not physically harmed (no article said that), so it never became as bad to warrant a 10 day suspension. Tell me, what information could we be missing, what all important fact could even exist that we are missing? I contend that nothing that important could be missing, therefore conclusions can be made.

Also, teachers are there to help kids. This seems to also be a point missing. They aren't just there for their own good. If a kid has a problem, they are supposed to help them with it, not go "WAHHHHH, he is deh breaking rules! Arrest him!! WAAAHHHH"

[sarcasm]oops, i forgot sarcasm tags [/sarcasm]