http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/20/liver.death.row.reut/index.html

So seriously, read that article, and then tell me what you think about the very last paragraph. Then tell me how you're proud to be an American.

The world sucks, this is one thing that will never change.

The fact that the US has death sentences makes me sad enough. This is just a compounded effect of that, in my opinion.

THis is really sad, but what's this?



What?!

That's ****ing bull****. I hope to God these people need an organ, suffer from it then drop dead because they can't get it.

I was thinking the same thing. Why does he have to recover before they kill him? :p

for a moment I thought you hated massassi

That is pretty messed up.

The actual story itself is messed up, but when I read that last line...that's not right. I'm glad I don't live in a country with capital punishment. It's for reasons like that it doesn't work.

I'm not against capital punishment.

The man killed an 82 year old woman, he needs to die.

However, I'm SERIOUSLY against whats going on here.

Even then, why couldn't they take the liver, and while he's still under the happy gas give him the lethal injection then? Kill two birds with one stone.

A lotta courts in this country suck

I'm proud to be a Canadian.

Canada has their problems too.

DONT GIVE FUEL TO FLEXOR!!!!

Life sucks.
People in power make life even suckier.

I am extremely proud to be an American just as I am proud not to be from anyone of those states.

What he said.

What problems does Canada have that are this idiotic?



Is this a joke?

hehe that's our good old governor mitch....

Hey, Connection Problem, how could that possibly be a joke? I don't get it.

one single, isloated instance is NOT going to make me not proud to be an American. i mean.. this man deservs what he is getting, and the court should not even consider medison and treatment of HIS SISTER in their decision of the punishment of his crime, or the timing of the punishment of his crime... THIS IS WHAT WAIST MY TAX DOLLARS. I dont know anythign abotu this man excpet what the artical says. he could have a history of anything from pulling stunts to excape to lying abotu who is apart of his family. Who are you to judge the people who judged them?

many people who have been put to death by the state who have been inisont in the past. that last paragraph is a trymumph for the judical system working, and getting people who are innisont out of jail. The man that died because he didnet get an organ from the man while he was still in jail is of no concquence. PEOPLE DIE, no one lives forever. there is no evidence that the jailed kidney whould not have been rejected by the brother, or any of the many other things that could have happoned. there are too many unknowns.

I am proud to be an American.

USA!! USA!! USA!!

*gets shot by CIA*

Here's an example.

Surely, common sense would say that a person shouldn't get $340,000 after finding a dead fly in water. But in the Canadian courts...:rolleyes:

No, not hot dog boys. You know.

Yeah, people suck. I'm surprised some here haven't figured that out yet.

I'm proud to be scottish...

But that seriously is screwed up.

That's hardly of the magnitude of denying a liver transplant. Live and death issues are slightly more important than $340,000, at least to me anyways.

Freelancer: I dunno... it's such a huge contradiction. I love my country soooo much... but I also hate alot of it.

If you were so proud of your country, then why are you ashmed of an issue that is present in a significant part of the country?

Still as proud as ever, but this is retarded and I hope I live to see the day when the US abolishes the death penalty.

Kind to think of it, did she just suddenly get into this condition? Was there never an indication prior to needing to delay execution that she would need a liver transplant? Then there's the fact that she's not on a transplant list due to "medical complications". The biggest issue is delaying the execution though. I don't see justification for that. Rather than ponder how much the system is screwed up, maybe that criminal can be tormented by how his acts not only killed whoever (don't remember if that was in the article) but now leave him helpless to aid a family member. I know it seems cold but he committed the crime and now will pay the penalty. Of course I am all for allowing the transplant without affecting the date of execution. Hell, just slip him a "mickey" while he's recovering.

The other case in the article Brian linked to is far more tragic.

Oh, I get it.

Innocent people deserve to indirectly suffer.

AMERICA ROCKS.

He committed the crime, and his sister pays the penalty?

While that is messed up and I disagree with how it was handled, I'm still proud to be an American.

Find me another country that doesn't have problems of any sort (whether governmental, ethical, moral, social, etc)...

If this incident takes all respect you had for being an America out the drain, then close your eyes because you will eventually hate the world. Realize how incidents that are just as messed up go on all over the world, and are not just limited to the US because we're Americans.

Also, there's also a side story in this in the fact that his defense also tried on Monday (the same day he asked to postpone his death) to get his sentence changed not for this reason, but because they feel an accomplice did the crime and not him.

The question I have after reading multiple news sites on this and details about his actual crime is why did he wait until Monday to ask about the delay?

It's not as if his sister just found out about her liver having problems.



And again, there was FOUR people on the board that rejected his appeal. You're going to hate being an American because of FOUR people? FOUR people who happen to know ALL the details about the case versus an article written on CNN. I'm not saying they're right in their decision, but like it or not, people's opinions sometimes do play part in decisions like this.

*sighs*

I never understood the idea of being proud of something that I didn't help to build/create.

I can't believe the lack of logic on most of the posters in this thread. I thought it was pretty damn obvious the behind behind those decisions didn't make the frickin country. Yes, those people are freaking idiots. However that's no reason to be doing all this "america sucks!" bull.

That is completely childish and just STUPID. Yes, that last paragraph was fubar but holy ****, the people whining about America because of it are just as stupid as those people.

Hell, most of the people in this thread would attack people insulting other countries if this took place elsewhere.

This has NOTHING to do with all of American morality or any considering that those were decisions made in the jurisdiction of those places.

This thread is ridiculous.

You don't have to create something to be a part of it. It's perfectly logical for someone to be proud of being a part of something. Have you never been proud of a family member or friend for doing something? You didn't create them, but you are a part of their life.

*applauds Jedigreedo*