IMO, it was a very sad movie. I saw many of my favorite jedi die, and even though i knew it was going to happen, watching Order 66 being carried out in its entirety was devastating to me. The saber fights were simply jaw dropping, i will definately go to see this movie at least 2 or 3 more times before i buy it, i can't say enough about how awsome this movie was, it was the best.

ummm why?

It's Pugler you fool!

And no, you're not better than him. You'll note that he is remembered by everyone, while I can't even remember the last name you posted under (that was what, like three days ago?).

Sorry about feeding the trolls, but this guy'll be banned again in no time, so it's really quite irrelevant.

I agree completely. I wasn't happy with the movie when I left the theater, but now that its sunk in a bit, it really was a good movie, just not a very happy one.

Was the any significance to the name "Order 66?"

one thing that could have improved the movie?

MORE CHOKING!

the trade federation dude is going "but the war is over" and all that what does anakin/vader do? HE SABERS INSTEAD OF CHOKES! that would have been a perfect moment for the choking to happen

They were going to call it "The Patriot Act" but that was already taken.

Other than the fact that "Order 666" wouldn't have gone over very well?

>.>

ya, me and my dad felt felt that it was related to 666, thats the only relative explanation the calling of order 66

It was an excellent movie, by far the best of the PT, if not of them all. The lightsaber duels made the ones in AotC(Anakin-Dooku and Yoda-Dooku) look slow by comparison, and the battle scenes were incredible, especially the Battle of Coruscant. I loved the ships, the fighters, the vehicles, weapons, droids, clone troops, everything about it. It was sad to see all of the now-familiar Jedi killed by the clones, and even more so to see Anakin doing the killing. What was even sadder, though(for me at least) was to realize that this was it, unless Lucas changes his mind and makes 7, 8, and 9. If this is going to be the last SW movie ever, though, they really finished it well.

it should've been 'order 1138'.

Or "Order 427."

"order 1337"

ROTS was good, but not god enough to put above any of the original three.

First thirty minutes, in my books, was "how much droid-based comic relief can we fit in?" The only way you could have made some of the dialogue worse would be to throw sand in it's general direction, the Order 66 bit was better than the rest, and the fact that it had story development made it tolerable.

I didn't like it very much. The only cool parts were getting to see Governor Tarkan, Wedge, Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, and... umm... Two-One-Bee.

Yup. After I watched episode 3, I watched episode 4 and 5. It did a nice job of setting up for the original trilogy.

Although it wouldn't fit, a movie between 3 and 4 would work, where the Rebellion rises.

Also, apparently Palpatine is Anakin's dad. What??

And Padme died of a broken heart. What the ****?

That wasn't wedge - That was the 'Captain Antilles' that C3PO refers to as being his last master in ANH.

ya i think he was refering to bail antilles, who was second runner up in the election for supreme chancelor, in episode 1. He ran against palpatine and lost.

I liked it. Although I wish Padme had simply died of complications from birth and/or trauma from Anakin's assault, I suppose the whole "broken heart" deal had to be thrown in.

Who said broken heart? She simply lost the will to live. The first 30 mins didn't feel like a star wars movie. Other wise I thought it was great. But for the love off god, after the movie why do we need endless lines of threads "post your view" "whats your verdict" "will they make 3 more"?! One of each will do!

I just lost an entire post, and I'm angry. I'll post it again later.

I just got back from seeing it, and one part that threw me was when Yoda told Obi that Qui Gon was back and Yoda would teach him how to communicate with him. Is there significance there I'm missing?

Another pretty cheap thing, if Obi is around R2 all this time during the first three movies, why doesn't he even recognize him at all during Ep 4? Ya ya, I know, cheap, but just something that struck me odd.

Well, I'd imagine droids are pretty much interchangeable in the SW universe... it'd be like seeing an old Commodore 64 and not remembering that you owned one back in '85.

Besides, Obi-wan used an R4 unit most of the time. Anikan was the one that used R2-D2.

Executive Order 9066 was the order by FDR to imprison all persons fo Japanese descent during WWII. Internment order.
And neither Wedge Antilles nor Bail Antillies was in this movie, just Captain Antilles. It's a very ordinary name, like Jones or Johnson.
I liked seeing Alderaan. Just like in the pictures.

-Very sad movie. Padme was like a fairy princess at her funeral.

Definitely. Anakin should have choked and thrown her around a bit.

I just got back from the cinema, and while mightily impressed, I have one question: Where was the acting?

I did find very interesting the battle on Mustafar, but I originally thought that Obi-Wan should have gone with the intent of saving Anakin, not resigned to kill him. So much more amazing dialogue could have been put in there, but when Anakin was cut to bits, I suppose it does make sense that Obi-Wan could not kill his former and beloved student, who was too selfish to admit defeat and ask for help.

Ever since Luke Skywalker climbed out of his X-Wing and shouted to Leia "Carrie!", acting has not been a part of Star Wars.

-Face it, that's just not one of the main points of the saga.

You're serious??? In what movie was that?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of EO 9066. I was wondering if it's too tenuous a connection to make, but Palpatine does say, after all: "Execute Order 66".

Also, it's always bothered me that Obi-Wan calls his droid "R4". R4 units don't have dome-shaped heads like that. They're more sawed-off conical, like the faulty droid the Jawas sell to Owen in ANH. The only way to reconcile it in my mind is to say that Obi-Wan's unit was named R2-R4, and he couldn't just call it R2, because that would get confusing.

This is pretty much just a copy and paste of what I wrote elsewhere.

The beginning rocked to an extent. It was more a way to show off the visual effects more than anything else. But as much as it rocked, there were still lame scenes. The Buzz Droids on Obi-Wan’s fighter. I’m sorry, but that entire sequence felt stupid. The overly absurd and stupid comedy shifted from Jar-Jar (who THANKFULLY only showed up twice and never said a WORD) to R2. I found that disappointing. This is R2! He’s got a hell of a personality, but he’s not stupid like that! Still… some of that WAS ever so slightly funny. The battle with Dooku was short. TOO short. Honestly, he kicked Obi-Wan out in seconds, and Anakin had him pinned in another 20 or so. And Palpatine just sitting there the whole time? Meh… that felt awkward to me. Yes he’s being held and locked to the chair, but the fact that he didn’t seem to really CARE didn’t make sense. Yeah, you’re behind EVERYTHING that’s going on, but please, at least ACT like you aren’t so the good little Jedi’s here don’t think something is up. That said, the setup for here was cool as it resembled RotJ a bit. Some of the dialogue during the first part between Anakin and Obi-Wan was actually surprisingly GOOD. It felt like stuff you’d hear in the original trilogy. Ditto on some of the events. Lightsaber battles overall though seemed… wrong. They were quick, exciting, and fun to watch, but it didn’t seem like there was any real form behind it. It seemed more like desperate flailing of swords then learned fighting techniques. The fact that a lot of it was closeup shots didn’t help much. I wanted some of the same type shots that we got in Ep1 and in RotJ.

Greivous was interesting, but odd. He’s a droid. Why on EARTH is he coughing and hacking all the time? He also seemed to feel more like a minor enemy that served no real purpose as opposed to some major guy you had to care about. Since we’re on the subject of the droids… What was up with the whole droid army? They honest to god reminded me of the Grunts from Halo! I kept expecting to hear a Grunt scream when droids were being chopped up, or “RUN AWAY!!!!!” in classic Grunt fashion. They went from being these monotone emotionless killing machines to monotone killing machines with an annoying personality.

Anakin and Padme? I just wanted to shoot them both whenever they shared screen time.

Palpatine showing his true self after being put under arrest was WONDERFUL. My only gripe? They narrowed it down to just him and Mace Windu WAY too fast. I mean, comeon… if he’s currently the most powerful sith lord in existence, I think he could EASILY take on four jedi at once without a major problem. Longer would’ve been better. His facial transition after Mace pinned him down was perfect. From there though, it seemed to go downhill. Anakin walks in, and the awesomeness dies. His character couldn’t figure out what was going on, and the actor had ZERO idea how to accurately portray that, or was given CRAP in terms of direction. His switch to the darkside was insanely fast. I saw it and went, "That's it? He's officially bad now?"

“Initiate Order Sixty-Six.” This was, by far, the BEST part of the movie to me. It was dark. VERY dark. And thus, ****ing awesome. Though, after hearing the order, I expected something more like “Order Six, Six, Six”. >.> But I suppose, for obvious reasons, that wouldn’t have worked out well. Anyways, the way Cody INSTANTLY attacked Obi-Wan without hesitation was just… Wow. Yes, I know the clones were designed to follow ANY order given to them, but that was just… Wow. How quickly, and unemotionally he complied. Anakin going into the Jedi Temple was by far the most disturbing part. Especially right after they cut away from the younger Jedi in training. However, looking back on it, that scene just doesn’t work for me. A few minutes earlier, he didn’t feel evil at all. More like a completely confused little brat still. Yet suddenly, here in the temple, he is now a completely evil monster. It's a sudden change that doesn't work for me at all, and makes little sense.

The sequences on Kashyyyk? Nice, but also something of a disappointment. For one, Lucas SHOULD have gone with the EU version of Kashyyyk. ie: A massive forest planet with trees EVERYWHERE. All of which are about the size of buildings on Courscant. That would've looked ALOT cooler. For two… they were too short. Yoda suddenly kicking Clone Trooper *** though was AWESOME. Don’t mess with the short man.

Yoda vs Palpatine = Awesome. Walk in, slam the troopers against the wall. Badass. The dialogue was kinda corny though. The fight was pretty good, up until the end. Then it felt like poo.

And then the final battle: Obi-Wan vs Anakin. The way this ended up working was actually kinda brilliant in it’s simplicity. The actual battle itself? VERY much so like ESB. Between the speed of the fighting, the aggressiveness, and the danger of where they were fighting, it all felt VERY much like ESB. That didn’t stop there from being awkward pauses in the fighting though. Overall, it was good though. And the way it ended? Ever so typical of Anakin’s character thoughout the last three movies. “Don’t do this Anakin!” “I’ll do what I want! *scream as he realizes Obi-Wan was right… AGAIN*” That ending dialogue though… MUCH better than the way it looked from the trailer.

The birth scene was… well… kinda lame. Necessary, but lame. Anakin becoming Vader? Pretty good. When the helmet went on… dead silence… then… WHOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHH… SHHEEEEEE-THUNK. That sound is one of my all time favorite parts of ESB. And then that first breath. That was perfectly done. PERFECTLY. However, all was ruined once Vader actually got up OFF the operating table. Yes, he has to adjust to everything, but all the movements were completely wrong. Totally UN-Vader. The following dialogue? Even MORE UN-Vader. A huge letdown to me. I was expecting lots of voice awesomeness from James Earl Jones, and instead, I got dialouge lameness… *sigh*

Tarkin's appearance at the end? Gah. WHY!? Even from that far back it just looked… ever so wrong. A nice touch, yes, but wrong… He just didn’t look right. Yeah, he had to look younger, but jeeze… they made it look like as he got older, he actually became MORE attractive. Even from that far back he looks ugly.

The final conversation between Obi-Wan and Yoda = WTF? I was actually quite giddy for a moment thinking something awesome was about to happen, BUT IT WENT NOWHERE! GAH!

So… my final opinion? It was good. Better than Ep I and EP II. BY FAR. Those two PALE in comparison. However, it still wasn’t as good as the original three movies. My official ranking would have to be ESB, RotJ, ANH, RotS and the other two would have to rank several spaces lower. >.> I hate them that much. I honestly cannot STAND to watch them now. I'd rank it maybe a 6 out of 10, with the Original Trilogy movies ranking higher.

Now, when the other two came out I initially thought they were reasonably decent too. You can see how I like them now. I can’t say for sure how much I’ll like EP III a few years down the road, but it’s position won’t change much in my rankings simply because the other two movies are far worse.

i read somewhere in a magazine many years ago, long before the public internet, that obi-wan left anakin for dead. he may have thought he was just going to die after catching fire and being dismembered.

I think it explains how they figured out how to show up in blue for Luke.

Because he was NOT a droid - he is a cyborg. If you saw his eyes, he was clearly an organic creature inside of a machine. When Obi-Wan was fighting him, he briefly exposed Greivous's chest, showing something that looked like a organic heart (looked like - I'm not saying it was his heart). Obi-Wan later kills him by shooting Greivous's chest with the blaster, killing Greivous.

and also he was coughing because if you watch the last episode of the clone wars one of the jedi (i think it was mace) injures him and he starts coughing

I couldn't get into Clone Wars, and thus, hardly ever watched it. So I didn't know about that.

This is one of those things that's always annoyed me about the prequel films. You're given little explaination for things like that UNLESS you've seen or read something else.

There's stuff like that in the OT too, though.

I didn't really watch the clone wars either and I too was going "WTF is he coughing? Isn't he a droid?" but then I saw his eyes when they did a close up and figured it out that he was a cyborg.

I think the whole point of the coughing was to show that he wasn't simply a droid.

Of course, it didn't help that, in the scroll text, they called him a "droid general".

And phoenix's summary says exactly what I felt. Except I wasn't all that bothered by Vader's awkwardness the first few moments in his suit. It seemed fitting to me. Except for when he shouts "No!" That would have worked a lot better had it been a wordless scream of rage.

I've seen it three times so far, and I've enjoyed it more on each subsequent viewing. I'm planning on going at least once more. The Order 66 scene is just so awesome.

I hate the droids in the first 30 minutes, though. Too much failed humor involving Artoo, and the battle droid voices (not even mentioning their idiotic lines) make me want to ingest cyanide, shoot myself, and drown in a river all at once. Far, far worse than Jar Jar, they are. I'd rather watch his bumbling antics any day.

Didn't anyone else catch that Palpatine is basically Anakin's father?

Anakin's mother was pregnant without a father, like a virgin birth i.e. the Virgin Mary. But then Palpatine goes on to talk about how that Sith guy (his master) could even create life, and that his apprentice learned it. ... ... Wouldn't it have been easier for him to just say, "Yeah I drugged that ***** and knocked her up good!"

Overall, it was a great film. A cringed at some of the dialogue, there didn't need to be a mention of the midichlorians or Jar Jar, but George Lucas likes them for some reason.

Someone needs to find George Lucas and kick him in the balls repeatedly.

Oh, and what's with this healing/life power being exclusive to the Sith? I know healing being a light power was all in the EU, but it's just common sense. And granted even in the EU the Sith have healing powers as well (sometimes by draining others' life) in the movie they made it sound so exclusive to that one Sith...you're telling me Yoda couldn't have saved Padme? Har?

Oh, and the Vader thing at the end when he goes "NOOOOOO!" was lame. Extended "NOOO!!" lines are totally lame. He could have let out a Vader scream without the word "no". Also, the force shockwave thing he did was quite cool.

That's an R5.