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I miss the old days of gaming.....
2005-05-23, 12:03 PM #1
I miss the old days of gaming like Jedi Knight where there were over 20 levels and games had GOOD stories and you could play the game over and over again and not get bored of it. Now adays games are short with all of 10 levels and the stories are not original they are mostly based off of a movie. Sure JK has terrible graphics but I think it kicks the hell out of JO and JA. The story is 10000 times better and you actually can choose to go to the dark side unlike JO. Does anyone else know what I am talking about?

:D
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2005-05-23, 12:12 PM #2
There's still some great games being made. JO just isn't one of them.
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2005-05-23, 12:13 PM #3
This isn't going to be another JK vs. JO/JA thread, right?
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2005-05-23, 12:18 PM #4
i think JK is the longest FPS i've played...
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2005-05-23, 12:25 PM #5
Quote:
Originally posted by Echoman
This isn't going to be another JK vs. JO/JA thread, right?

God hope not.
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2005-05-23, 12:26 PM #6
No I am just saying that the old games are bigger and better than some of the new games
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2005-05-23, 12:42 PM #7
Keyword 'some', you just gotta seep through the trash to find the good ones.
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2005-05-23, 12:46 PM #8
The current market and technology demand a far greater level of detail than the games of old. Meaning either a much lengthier development time, a much bigger development team, or a much shorter game. From a financial standpoint, shorter games make the most sense.
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2005-05-23, 12:54 PM #9
Maybe Jedi Knight was a bad example…. Look at this instead. When Need for Speed Hot Pursuit II came out I was really disappointed in it. The Hot Pursuit mode sucked compared to High Stakes. Sure the graphics are better but what is a game if all it has are graphics.

Another example:

X-Wing Alliance was a great game. Sure the graphics suck compared to today but is there a game that has that same style now? No there is not.

I understand that there are great game out now but…. Maybe I worded it wrong. Sequels today suck compared to the other games that came out before them most of the time. Warcraft, Doom, and Halo being some of the acceptations but when you look at some of the other games you notice a lot of problems that game developers leave out that were in the previous. Do you guys understand what I am saying now?

PS sorry about using JK as an example :rolleyes:
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2005-05-23, 1:00 PM #10
Don't be. Most people round here hold JK up as a shining beacon of light in a world gone crazy.

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*Runs off to dig up his JK discs again*
2005-05-23, 1:22 PM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by Martyn
Don't be. Most people round here hold JK up as a shining beacon of light in a world gone crazy.

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*Runs off to dig up his JK discs again*

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2005-05-23, 1:59 PM #12
that's because JK is actually deserving of it.
Some other games are too, of course...

For example, I just played the original unreal tournament demo today...
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2005-05-23, 2:00 PM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by Genki
and it is, ph00

True that.
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2005-05-23, 2:27 PM #14
Excuse you?

JK the old days of gaming?

Hardly.

There are older, much better games.
2005-05-23, 2:51 PM #15
Yeah, I still hold up the JK discs in memory of the greater days in one perspective. Of course, technology makes a better experience now.

Of course, there are the few games that have resisted time and change and are still awesome and long. Deus Ex. HL2. RtCW. UT2k4 (okay, SP isn't relevant but I <3 onslaught) 'nuff said.
2005-05-23, 2:56 PM #16
Jedi Knight is still considered one of the top PC games of all time. And one of LucasArts few good classics.
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2005-05-23, 3:05 PM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Echoman
. . . . And one of LucasArts few good classics.


CORRECTION: ". . . . And one of LucasArts few good games."
2005-05-23, 3:38 PM #18
Agreed I still play JK every once and a while. :D

And with mods of course :p
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2005-05-23, 3:43 PM #19
The only good part about JK, is multi-player, and that with mods/levels.

Can't wait to try JA, when I get a decent PC. :rolleyes:
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2005-05-23, 4:23 PM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by JDKNITE188
CORRECTION: ". . . . And one of LucasArts few good games."


Dark Forces
X-Wing
TIE Fighter
X v. T
XWA
JK
Full Throttle
Outlaws


Those are all Lucas games, through and through, and they are all awesome.
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2005-05-23, 5:33 PM #21
My clanmates and I busted out with some Outlaws MP awhile back...such a blast. JK is probably my favorite LEC game, but there are other good ones.
2005-05-23, 5:43 PM #22
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Dark Forces
X-Wing
TIE Fighter
X v. T
XWA
JK
Full Throttle
Outlaws


Those are all Lucas games, through and through, and they are all awesome.


Sam and Max and Monkey Islands missing too.

Eeee, back in the day....
2005-05-23, 6:01 PM #23
Ah YES Monkey Island I remeber that game :p
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2005-05-23, 6:07 PM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by Dominik
The only good part about JK, is multi-player, and that with mods/levels.

Can't wait to try JA, when I get a decent PC. :rolleyes:


JA isn't all that great, actually.

However, the JK single player is amazing. Go download Junkguy's SSR 4000 pro (I think) mod and play though single player all matrix style.
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2005-05-23, 6:45 PM #25
Whatever happened to ID_Junkguy. :(
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2005-05-23, 6:46 PM #26
I don't know, but he owes me the F-Zero mod.
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2005-05-23, 6:56 PM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by Echoman
Whatever happened to ID_Junkguy. :(


:(
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2005-05-23, 8:05 PM #28
He's moved on to other games. Doom 3 and maybe others.
2005-05-25, 12:04 AM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by Martyn
Sam and Max and Monkey Islands missing too.

Eeee, back in the day....


Grim Fandango anyone?
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2005-05-25, 1:08 AM #30
*seconds the adventure game praise, especially Grim Fandango*
Quote:
Originally posted by DrkJedi82
i think JK is the longest FPS i've played...


I'd agree, were it not for NOLF 1 and Deus Ex 1, especially with my time-consuming sneaky and deadly play-style (I left a lot of corpses, but they hardly ever saw it coming, were never discovered, and very few set off any alarms). Both must've been at least 40+ hours.
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2005-05-25, 1:27 AM #31
Quote:
Originally posted by Darth Slaw
Some other games are too, of course...

For example, I just played the original unreal tournament demo today...


Unreal Tournament is a bad example too, considering UT2k4 has just as much, if not more, content than the original. In fact, UT2k4 is one of the best examples of what a follow-up or sequel should be.
2005-05-25, 2:00 AM #32
So long as you discount UT2003, which wasn't great.
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2005-05-25, 6:15 AM #33
Quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Valentine
Unreal Tournament is a bad example too, considering UT2k4 has just as much, if not more, content than the original. In fact, UT2k4 is one of the best examples of what a follow-up or sequel should be.


I dont know... UT2k4 just didnt feel like UT.
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2005-05-25, 6:22 AM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by Ric_Olie
Grim Fandango anyone?


Haha! I even own that! How could I forget?

Silly Martyn!

:D
2005-05-25, 6:58 AM #35
I want a new mechwarrior dammit.
2005-05-25, 7:32 AM #36
Quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Valentine
Unreal Tournament is a bad example too, considering UT2k4 has just as much, if not more, content than the original. In fact, UT2k4 is one of the best examples of what a follow-up or sequel should be.
DId I miss something? I was giving an example of another prequel game that is a "shining beacon of light"
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2005-05-25, 1:14 PM #37
Quote:
Originally posted by ANL
I miss the old days of gaming like Jedi Knight where there were over 20 levels and games had GOOD stories and you could play the game over and over again and not get bored of it. Now adays games are short with all of 10 levels and the stories are not original they are mostly based off of a movie.

There are still some great modern games. KOTOR is a prime example of this. I think I played through it at least 5 times before getting tired of it.
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2005-05-25, 1:46 PM #38
omg no dott fans... what about ij:FoA!!!

never got to play sam and max but those two were the best adventure games I ever played
2005-05-25, 1:46 PM #39
Yea KOTOR is a good game :)

I wish there were more games like JK and KOTOR :(
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2005-05-25, 1:49 PM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by ANL
Yea KOTOR is a good game :)

I wish there were more games like JK and KOTOR :(


Then play some other game without the SW title and LEC logo. Damn.
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