the fact that he keeps going back and re doing the movies and making it impossible to get a good copy of the originals....

i mean.. that is an aweful thing for him to do.. and don't say "they are his movies"... once they are released, they are everyon's movies.. that's just like Korn going back and re-doing their first cd now that they suck, and making it impossible to get the original... that would TOTALLY piss me off... the same goes for the original star wars series.. they should be left alone! that is that...

The only redeaming factor with korn is.. I can say "well.. we will atleast always have self titled and life is peachy" all the ammount of suckyness in the world coming from korn now days can never take that away... but as for star wars... that does not hold true.. cause he just goes back and messes up the original...

This is what I believe to be true, I am not "*****ING".. i am stating my opinion and think it might make for a good discussion (provided that people don't act immature, ie. you are stupid and "your opinion is wrong")

They are his movies, he may do whatever he want with them. Not that I agree with his actions all the time. But overall, the new DVD versions are great. At least ANH and ESB, as for RotJ... ugh, luckily I have the original on proper format. And could get the other originals too but I don't have any reason to.

they are not his movies, they belong to the world... (and i'm not even going to go into the fact that he didn't even WRITE the whole starwars thing, as it was a colaboration of a bunch of people adding stuff to it... originally there was no han solo, or lightsabers...)

They're not everybody's movies, everybody just has a possibility to see them.

well.. not anymore obviously

As long as he's re-doing stuff, replace the puppet with a CG Yoda in Episode 1. The puppet is terrible. In Ep 5 & 6 it's believable because he can't get around well. Plus, in Ep 1 the 'animation' of Yoda is really choppy considering Yoda's age. Like Oz has lost his touch or something.

My biggest gripe with Star Wars is that there are a bajillion posts here rehashing the same ideas.

But I guess that's all a forum really is.

I wish there had never been a prequel trilogy...

And I wish for the love of tuna that they hadn't CHANGED the original trilogy. Watching the old VHS version is almost better.

I dont mind most of the changes in the special edition or DVD release.

The only things I really cant stand are the horrible sabers in the OT DVD. Everything else is bearable. I dont like Hayden at the end or Fetts new voice or the new dance bit in RotJ, but everything else is either good or ok. Some of the changes do add to the films. Like seeing more of bespin in ESB, and the quality of the OT DVDs are amazing when you go back and look at the VHS trilogy... even the 20 or so times that was digitally remastered.

I completely agree with Tazz about Yoda in TPM. He looked awful. The CG yoda is better and it's not often I prefer CG over puppets.

It's the media on which those movies are distrubuted that belong to people, not the movies themselves. Same with music. Or data. Or pretty much anything distributed on media.

I didn't particularly mind Hayden being added in at the end of RotJ. Hell, the only thing that I really minded was Greedo shooting first. Rest of the stuff, I'm okay with (except the new Ewok dance song - I want my yub-yub back again. :()

The MAIN problem with Star Wars obviously is the whining of obsessed kiddies who think the movies are theirs.

No, they do not belong to the world. Nobody else has any ownership over them. The only thing they own is whatever copy they purchase at the store.

once again i must direct all of you to watch the south park episode where the kids go on a mission to stop directors from rereleasing movies in different forms... it has much truth to be told among all the normal sp humor

I'm only going to complain slightly.

I'd still like an un-edited OT DVD release.

you know with GL apparently wanting more money... he should release the original versions of the OT on DVD... he would get so much money with all the nerds out there

He probably will.. eventually.


I'm guessing he'll release a Box Set of the PT then another boxed set containing all 6 movies.

It is in no way owned by the public, the public imply owns a license to playback the material.

surely you would know this considering you'll be getting a million dollars for a movie idea.

People who think that Star Wars movies belong to them and not the artist that created them, need to get up, go outside, and meet the wonderful world out there.

The Special Edition was a great enhancement to Star Wars, and the DVD release is even better. The story isn't changed at all, but the entire movie is a lot cleaner, and in some cases, less "boxed in"

Though, after watching George's admissions on the bonus disc, I feel the success of Star Wars is a fluke.

Some psychics believe that on the other side everyone appears 30, and I would rather be 30 on the other side than 60, though in this case I believe that the change wasn't really necessary, but it wasn't a problem either.

If you want to watch the old faded and scratched Star Wars and the sorry attempt at a muppet musical side-by-side with the DVD version and say "Woah, Fett's voice is different, this sucks! (Sorry, I didn't even realize/recall that Fett talked until this post)", that's your preference, but to me poor quality can ruin an otherwise great movie in the same way that a poor story can ruin a movie with great quality.

Star Wars quality was great in the 70-80's, but in the age of digital media I am glad Lucas gave the rusty old speeder a new paint/gloss job.

The HD content is not what we speak of.

The changes made that weren't required are.

Changes made according to YOU. THe artist has the right to change whatever story he wants, add/remove whatever he wants. If GL decided one day to make Obi-Wan Lukes father and not Vader, I may not agree with his decision or like it, but I sure as hell wouldn't be "OMG YOU RAPED MY CHILDHOODDD"... I'd watch it, be disapppointed by the changes, and then get over it quickly and go outside to the real world where real life is. It's GL's choice, nobody else's.

I don't really care about this anymore. If Lucas releases the original versions one day, I will buy then, but the current release will more than suffice until them. If that day never comes, meh... they are still the same films at heart and I don't enjoy them any less with their revisions, it's the remastering that is far more important.

*clears throat*

Where did I say he couldn't change his movie if he wanted to?


Please don't put words in my mouth.



That aside. Art isn't creation for creation's sake.

ALL art has an audience, if you are neglecting this audience, arguably you aren't creating art.

You danced around directly saying it, but your point was clear.





I think it's safe to say that since 1977, Star Wars has had a fan base no other film has achieved, still to this day it does. Therefore, GL can change what he wants and not affect the majority of his fan base except for the whiny babies that claim he "raped their childhood".

Once again. Ignoring my point.

So I'll stop, because it's pretty obvious your skull is pretty thick.

Must you resort to insulting someone? It's a discussion forum on the internet... About Star Wars.. If you're getting so upset over it, perhaps you need to exercise my above advice, and go outside.

ANyways, since my skull is so thick.. What exactly is your point that I am ignoring?

i think... MAYBE rob's point could possibly be "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but then again rob is the forum drunk and who knows what goes on in his head...

I resent that comment. I have beer right now. And I have an exam tomorrow to revise for.

If it aint broke, dont fix it, unless it belongs to you, then do what you want with it.

I have to agree on you with this one. I hate the new song. I like the new scenes, but I want yub-yub. Thank god I have the orginal Tape soundtrack.

Ditto. I like the Ewoks singing too.

No one's seen an actual copy of Star Wars since 1977. He's been changing them since its first theatrical run (ie. Changing Star Wars to "A New Hope" and adding "Episode IV" to the crawl. Meaning that you haven't seen the original either, so to debate that the changes are bad when you've never even seen the original makes your argument lose weight. You've only seen one of its many versions.

Hahahahahahaha

It is against human nature for one single person to "own" a story. Consider mythological stories. They were passed down from generation to generation, evolving like languages into various different versions.

Those are different. They're about us, humanity, and they teach us about ourselve's.. Star Wars is a MOVIE. Meant for nothing but ENTERTAINMENT. THere's a huge difference. It's like comparing Star Wars to the Bible.

actually, $900,000 for the movie (we took out $100,000 to use toward a screenplay) but that has nothing to do with this... so maybe lucas owns the story LEGALLY... but my parents owned all my clothes when I was 7, legally... but they were still my clothes... and

as for the "kiddie" remark.. I am 21... u are ignorant...

as for the "obsessed" part.. I really don't even like starwars that much... i have NEVER made a starwars level, and I would rank the starwars original trilogy on the lower half of my favorite movies scale.. I only started palying JK cause it was the only game we had at my school, and i found it easy and fun to work with it;s engine... so again, you are ignorant...

(just so no one loses their mind... here's the definition of the word "ignorant" - it's not an insult-)

ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

umm.. i can't remember what else I was going to say...

Clothes that they owned and you wore.
Just like this is George Lucas' movie that you watch.

exactly, so would it be nice of my parents to cut holes in my clothes, and sew on pink frills? Well.. it was THEIR clothes.... so they SHOULD do that.. cause it is THEIRS they paid for it... NO! not only would it be a horrible thing to do, but it would show that they would have ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for my feelings or me in general.. cause it's theirs and they are gonna do what they want to do with it... regardless of what i think... which seems to be the way of a lot of people on here...

If they wanted to do it they could, its their clothes to do with as they please.



Since when does Lucas need to show respect for someone he never met?