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The MAIN problem with star wars is...
2005-05-31, 1:44 PM #41
and you don't see something wrong with that? if not, these forums are more screwed up then I thought..

My point is that it is stupid that he keeps changing them, and making it impossible to get copies of the originals... I am not arguing that he "doesn't have the right" to change them... I am just saying that it was kinda selfish of him to do.

if he keeps changing stuff every 5 years, and re releasing them, there won't be anything left in them... mark hammil will be dubbed over to be hayden... obiwan will have an ewan mcgreggor face pasted over his... they will paste hayden's face over vader's old face at the end of RotJ....
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2005-05-31, 1:47 PM #42
You have no right to say these forums are screwed up! They're not YOUR forums!
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2005-05-31, 1:51 PM #43
lol.. good point.. what if brian for some reason decided to turn massassi into a gay porn site (not that there is anything wrong with that - not trying to offend anyone-) .. I'm sure that everyone here might dislike it for some reason.. but it's NOT OUR SITE it's brian's... Legally, he can do whatever he wants...
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2005-05-31, 1:51 PM #44
Quote:
Originally posted by Rob
I'd still like an un-edited OT DVD release.
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2005-05-31, 1:55 PM #45
TimeWolfOfThePast, Since always!! it's common human decency... it's because of people saying stuff like that that this world is such a rotten place... just because you have never met someone doesn't mean they don't diserve respect... anyone who is human, or alive diserves respect unless they give you a reason not to....

Take me for example, I work at an amusment park... what would happen if all the vacationing families came up to me, and I showed them absolutely NO respect cause I had never met them... not only would I get fired, but I would be a horrible person.
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2005-05-31, 1:56 PM #46
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Originally posted by Spiral
lol.. good point.. what if brian for some reason decided to turn massassi into a gay porn site (not that there is anything wrong with that - not trying to offend anyone-) .. I'm sure that everyone here might dislike it for some reason.. but it's NOT OUR SITE it's brian's... Legally, he can do whatever he wants...


First you compare Star Wars to Korn... next you say that.
Im not even going to bother with debating this if you cant think of a decent way to explain your point.
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2005-05-31, 1:59 PM #47
that is a decent way to explain my point... it's a direct comparison... I can't really say something like "what if lucas took the OT and changed it all around, would you like that?!" cause that has already happened.. so I took something else that we all care about, this site, and used the same analogy... if you can't see that, then you are blind.
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2005-05-31, 2:02 PM #48
except... lucas isnt destroying the movie. Its not like he took star wars and changed it to something along the lines of the Spice Girls movie.

Your arguing like Lucas is doing something like that. A few changes are not going to RUIN A MOVIE AND RAPE YOUR CHILDHOOD. He's going to do what he wants. Deal with it.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2005-05-31, 2:02 PM #49
LOL, i'm probably the only one on Massasso who has the original release of the trilogy on VHS. First copys ever! Heck, there so old, the case is nearly destroyed dispite our best efforts to take care of em.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2005-05-31, 2:04 PM #50
he is going to do what he wants, and nothing I say can change that.. that makes him a selfish pr***.. That's ok, I don't NEED george lucas... I will have "Serenity" soon enough... it will make starwars look like a turd.. oh wait... GIGLI made starwars look like a turd...
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2005-05-31, 2:14 PM #51
You just put a gun in the mouth of your argument and pulled the trigger. Nobody will listen to you now.
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2005-05-31, 2:23 PM #52
Quote:
Originally posted by Spiral
GIGLI made starwars look like a turd...


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2005-05-31, 2:24 PM #53
Quote:
he is going to do what he wants, and nothing I say can change that.. that makes him a selfish pr***.. That's ok, I don't NEED george lucas... I will have "Serenity" soon enough... it will make starwars look like a turd.. oh wait... GIGLI made starwars look like a turd...



Please. Turn your computer off, unglue your hand from the mouse and your eyes from the monitor. Put away your Lego and pick up your toy cars, tell your mommy you're going outside to play, go outside, meet real life and have fun.
2005-05-31, 3:14 PM #54
like that made any sense what-so-ever.. i don't need u to lecture me on life
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2005-05-31, 3:23 PM #55
Just like GL doesn't need you to lecture him on how YOU want Star Wars to be.
2005-05-31, 3:39 PM #56
Quote:
Originally posted by Temperamental
Please. Turn your computer off, unglue your hand from the mouse and your eyes from the monitor. Put away your Lego and pick up your toy cars, tell your mommy you're going outside to play, go outside, meet real life and have fun.


Please. Stop being so goddamn condescending.
2005-05-31, 3:56 PM #57
tempermental.. wow... just... wow
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2005-05-31, 4:30 PM #58
did anyone mension here that lucas had the idea for the prequils in the 1970s, but never had the technology to make the effects the way he wanted.... this is george lucas's story we're talking about, seams some people act as if they wrote it and they own the rights to it..... george lucas has a right to change his story if he wants, modify it, or add onto it.....
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2005-05-31, 5:14 PM #59
Quote:
Originally posted by Spiral
I am not arguing that he "doesn't have the right" to change them... I am just saying that it was kinda selfish of him to do.
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2005-05-31, 5:43 PM #60
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Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast
No one's seen an actual copy of Star Wars since 1977. He's been changing them since its first theatrical run (ie. Changing Star Wars to "A New Hope" and adding "Episode IV" to the crawl. Meaning that you haven't seen the original either, so to debate that the changes are bad when you've never even seen the original makes your argument lose weight. You've only seen one of its many versions.


So much else I was going to respond to but this one really caught my attention. I was six when I saw the original in the theater and clearly remember seeing "Episode IV" and the Anchorhead scene in the theater.

OK. I actually don't clearly remember any of that but I had not heard that the addition of "A New Hope" and "Episode IV" had ever happened. Do you have a cite or other reference for this?
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2005-05-31, 5:51 PM #61
http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

Definately killed 28 years of coolness!!
2005-05-31, 6:26 PM #62
...but that's still Anakin Skywalker in that suit, to a much lesser degree. Anakin was never very professional or cool-mannered like Vader was in the OT. Thus, for him to simply go, "Meh," at the news of her death would be a very sudden shift in Vader's attitudes.
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2005-05-31, 6:28 PM #63
Wow, that is one of the most disturbing websites I have ever seen! Anyway, that wasn't Vader, that was me when I snuck into the recording studio and realized that was the ending.
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2005-05-31, 6:52 PM #64
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

It's a good link for changes in the editions, including those made after the movies were released but before the Special Editions.
2005-05-31, 7:06 PM #65
that's dumb about hayden being at the end of ROTJ... why would he be young again, yet ObiWan and yoda are old? could it be cause that's what he looked like when he changed over to the dark side?
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2005-05-31, 7:10 PM #66
Maybe cause it's what Lucas wanted? I could be going on a limb here. Maybe he should have asked you what you wanted first
2005-05-31, 7:25 PM #67
Quote:
Originally posted by Rob
I'm only going to complain slightly.

I'd still like an un-edited OT DVD release.


End of freaking discussion.
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2005-05-31, 7:36 PM #68
Quote:
Originally posted by Spiral
that's dumb about hayden being at the end of ROTJ... why would he be young again, yet ObiWan and yoda are old? could it be cause that's what he looked like when he changed over to the dark side?


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2005-05-31, 7:44 PM #69
but he was only dead "from a certain point of view" and when what's his face said "maybe lucas should have asked what YOU wanted".. maybe he sould have asked himself what made sense...
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2005-05-31, 7:47 PM #70
It's awesome! the MAIN problem with Star Wars was at the very end you find out that Vader is a wrinkled old man. Now Lucas has corrected this issue.
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2005-05-31, 9:04 PM #71
But what Timewolf says DOES make sense. Just because the point of view does not match yours does not mean its wrong.
2005-05-31, 10:18 PM #72
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Originally posted by MBeggar
except... lucas isnt destroying the movie. Its not like he took star wars and changed it to something along the lines of the Spice Girls movie.

Your arguing like Lucas is doing something like that. A few changes are not going to RUIN A MOVIE AND RAPE YOUR CHILDHOOD. He's going to do what he wants. Deal with it.


ok now what if brian made the colors of massassi white and pink with black text?
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2005-05-31, 10:21 PM #73
If he did it well, no complaints. It might take me a while to get used to though.
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2005-05-31, 10:32 PM #74
here's a taste of what that would look like...

[http://jim7.home.insightbb.com/notmassassi.jpg]
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2005-05-31, 10:48 PM #75
The analogy is more like "Throwing away the old windows 95 machine and buying a brand new computer and using a higher resolution with anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering while at the same time using a high definition skin/texture pack and having a three digit framerate while playing the same old game then typing a run-on sentence making use of the larger text capacity of the higher resolution"

Some people will prefer to keep things the same, some will prefer mods that make things appear and sound more detailed. Personally I enjoy the DVD's, they don't significantly change the story (does it really matter if Greedo or Han fires first? Greedo gets fried, end of story), but it's a hell of a lot nicer to look at.

Really, I don't care what Massassi looks like, as long as the content remains the same I could live with a pink skin. Honestly, my preference would be red or blue, Brian's is green, but I'm not here to judge the layout, I'm here because it's a JK site with JK content.
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2005-05-31, 10:59 PM #76
the new SINGING scene in RotJ with the CG things newrly ruined the whole movie (I know the original scene was bad... but the new one was 10 times worse...) and I hated the little beak thing they put on the "ground monster thing"... concidering that you are digested over 1000 years... it would seem to have a slow metabolism, so it would move extremely slowly, if at all.. unless it needed to move quick... it did this in the original RotJ.. but in the new one, it has all sorts of energy..
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2005-05-31, 11:30 PM #77
It's a Sci-Fi/Fantasy movie. Things don't have to make sense.


What about lightsabers, they're unrealistic.

The force, unrealistic.

Andriod/Humans like Darth Vader, unrealistic as of now

A giant sphere in space that floats around destroying whole planets, unrealistic as of now

I could go on and on about the unrealistic things in Star Wars... Stop analyzing the films for every stupid thing that doesnt make sense and watch them and enjoy them, or just dont watch them at all if they bother you so much.
2005-05-31, 11:41 PM #78
yeah, i see your point... it just seems like it is unrealistic for even the starwars universe though...
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2005-06-01, 12:15 AM #79
"It is unrealistic for even the starwars universe though..."

That is the dumbest statement I have ever read.
2005-06-01, 2:22 AM #80
well, that was most certainly uncalled for... why are you so sassy?you need to goto time out or something to cool off for a while.. don't ever attack people like that. you should be ashamed of yourself... totally out of line... rediculas.. any here I thought the thred was dieing down, and gaining civility... i even said "I see your point, but it still seems to be this way" yeah i am dumb... I guess you couldn't stand for the debate to be settled, could you? just gotta keep picking and throwing gasoline on the fire... well, i got some bad news for you, this fire is officially out.. throw as much gas as you want, there is nothing but ashes left (quite poetic hmm.. i should write these down ;) )

and BTW Demon_Nightmare: Then you must have never read the bible ;)

LOL
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