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Zelda's NEW LOOK
2004-05-11, 10:55 AM #1
The new Zelda has arrived sporting REALISTIC GRAPHICS. You have to sign up at Gamespot to get the streaming video but it is well worth it.

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/index.html

EDIT - Here's the trailer at IGN in downloadable form.

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/vids_1.html

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2004-05-11, 10:56 AM #2
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2004-05-11, 11:42 AM #3
..okay..

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2004-05-11, 11:51 AM #4
damnit, can I just see one screenshot?

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2004-05-11, 11:56 AM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Echoman:
damnit, can I just see one screenshot?

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Click SAJN's link, he's got screenshots linked on his site.



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2004-05-11, 11:57 AM #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Omicron88:
Click SAJN's link, he's got screenshots linked on his site.

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GAH!

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2004-05-11, 11:59 AM #7
w00p w00p. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] Screenshots up in hurrrr. :P

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2004-05-11, 12:00 PM #8
.....NO! I must get a Gamecube!

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2004-05-11, 12:01 PM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Omicron88:

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Click SAJN's link, he's got screenshots linked on his site.

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HIS site?

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2004-05-11, 12:10 PM #10
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/e2bcbfd3-aa36-4b65-8170-b07c7083bab5.mov

Holy mother of god, and the screenshots too. You can actually see that Link is wearing chainmail under his tunic. And my god, it's so beautiful.

Christ, thank you Nintendo. Thank you so much. I'll never doubt you again.
2004-05-11, 12:12 PM #11
It's 'his' in the sense that he posted it. I didn't mean to imply that he might own it in any way. Sorry for the confusion. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-05-11, 12:20 PM #12
This, in combination with the other videos that have been shown ( a list is located on shacknews ) like Advance Wars - Under Fire and Metroid Prime 2 make me wish I had a Gamecube.
2004-05-11, 12:24 PM #13
[http://blargh.mine.nu/test/134/8.jpg]

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2004-05-11, 12:45 PM #14
YES!

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2004-05-11, 12:59 PM #15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/e2bcbfd3-aa36-4b65-8170-b07c7083bab5.mov


Christ, thank you Nintendo. Thank you so much. I'll never doubt you again.</font>


Why do I doubt this?



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2004-05-11, 1:05 PM #16
From the shack, this is a new version of the Zelda trailer, higher resolution with better music:


http://c.cubemovies .ign.com/cube/video/article/513/513370/zeldaamazing_qthigh.mov?wu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gameboy.ign.com%2Fdownload.html%3Fmu%3D%3CURL%2F%3E]Click.

[This message has been edited by KnobZ (edited May 11, 2004).]
2004-05-11, 1:08 PM #17
Here are a bunch of screenshots from IGN.

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/imgs_1.html

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2004-05-11, 1:12 PM #18
so *sniff* beautiful...

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2004-05-11, 1:45 PM #19
You know, they must have cameras at funco-land. They saw me when I picked up that sorry excuse for a zelda game, windwaker. They read my lips in the camera. "Wow, this ****ing sucks. Why don't they, you know, make the graphics BETTER? Not worst."

Thank you, nintendo. Maybe you can stick to this... lack of making a good game's sequel suck.

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2004-05-11, 2:18 PM #20
Wow, umm sorry to tell you, but...WIndwaker was a freaking awesome game. The graphics were friggin brilliant as was the gameplay and storyline.

OMG CEL-DA LOLOLz

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2004-05-11, 2:20 PM #21
the graphics were too cartoonish. blah.

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2004-05-11, 2:28 PM #22
Maybe it was because that was what they wanted? that's some freaking beautiful cell shading in that game. Don't say the graphics suck just because you don't like the style.

[edit]I just watched the trailer, and all i can say is [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]. I was about halfway through before i realized that it was in-game shots, not cutscene.

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2004-05-11, 2:41 PM #23
Wind Waker was DESIGNED to be cel-shaded. I think they did a good job with it.

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2004-05-11, 2:43 PM #24
Why didn't they do that all along? Enough of that kid Link nonsense. Silly Japanesers.

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2004-05-11, 3:44 PM #25
Adult Link is the only way to go. I might go back to consoles for this.

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2004-05-11, 5:05 PM #26
and did anyone say any of these comments we're posting here about windwaker? No. Because in the end, when people try to hard to use cel-shading, it ends up sucking in the end. I love cel-shading, but windwaker wasn't at all well done as far as cel-shading goes. The number of shade-levels determines it's quality, in my mind. 7 or 8 shade levels is good, while wind waker had 3, maybe 4 for each character. Call it personal preference, but Zelda in no way makes me think of cartoons. At all. Windwaker was a kick in the nutz to REAL zelda fans, the ones who know the old school of zelda. The not-so-3D stuff. This recent game looks to be a lot more where they wanted the original Zelda games to be. They were above their time in graphics, then, and are, once again, in the same place.

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2004-05-11, 5:06 PM #27
Ok, so all of us that think windwaker looks good are not 'real' Zelda fans? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

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2004-05-11, 5:12 PM #28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Noble Outlaw:
Don't say the graphics suck just because you don't like the style.
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Not liking the style is enough reason to say the graphics suck. Even if the technology behind the graphics is impressive.

I haven't played Wind Waker, but despite the fact that I don't like the graphics, it looks like a very fun game.

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2004-05-11, 5:19 PM #29
Can the CameCube do that..? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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2004-05-11, 5:42 PM #30
It's a pretty powerful little system.

This definitely looks promising for a few reasons to me.

First, I more prefer that graphic style opposed to cel shading. Yes I liked WW, no I wasn't one of those people who spouted off "OMG CELDA!" everytime someone mentioned it. I thought it was a good game, and I liked the graphics, but they're not the highest in my personal preference.

Second, I've always preferred the "adult Link" games are far as the 3D Zelda games go(which I guess basically narrows it down to OoT) for some reason.

Third, it's set on a large landmass. I wasn't too fond of the whole WW ocean thing. Also, hopefully this game is set in Hyrule and not in "some far off land" like Majora's Mask was. It always seems the games set in Hyrule are better. Maybe it's the whole Ganon/Zelda aspect that even though it's been done many times, it always seems more enjoyable.
2004-05-11, 5:47 PM #31
Aghh .. now my hopes are soaring .. if this proves to be as phenominal as the Ocarina of Time, Nintendo'll get a hell of a lot of their old brilliance back .. man, just looking at this makes me wanna play OOT again .. gar nostalgia from great times of childhood .. garrr

*sniff*

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2004-05-11, 6:15 PM #32
/me looks at a screen and a tear of joy runs down his cheek

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2004-05-11, 6:21 PM #33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bounty Hunter 4 hire:
Adult Link is the only way to go. I might go back to consoles for this.

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I have had my issues with this since OoT -- Link should neither be a "kid" (less than 15) NOR an adult (greater than 16-17). While I wasn't too hot that Majora's Mask and Wind Waker used a younger Link, I've always liked the fact that Nintendo didn't opt to be "cool" and go with the 18-20 year old Link they encouraged in SoulCalibur 2 and the original Gamecube trailer before Wind Waker. Go look at the art work for Zelda 1-4. Link is a TEENAGER, not a kid or an adult.

Which is one of the main reasons I LOVE the new Zelda. His face is rounder, his nose is rounder, his proportions say "teenager." Yes, the graphics are awesome, the weather effects are to droll over, the horseback sword fighting = win, but the final word was seeing Link not look like he should be selling himself out to freaking Playstation cool-kid fans.

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2004-05-11, 6:25 PM #34
Am I the only person that liked playing as young Link in OOT?

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2004-05-11, 6:42 PM #35
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Am I the only person that liked playing as young Link in OOT?

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Yes.

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2004-05-11, 6:51 PM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flirbnic:
Am I the only person that liked playing as young Link in OOT?

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I definately had much less of a problem playing a younger Link than an older Link. It has its fun moments, but I'd place playing a younger Link in the same catagory as not playing in Hyrule -- they should only do either occasionally, to vary the Zelda series. Majora's Mask is a good example of a game I felt went off the beaten path well in both respects.

More specifically though, playing the first part of OoT before time-traveling felt to me the same as playing the first part of LttP before going into the Dark World.

Anyone else notice the LotR parallels in the new game? Orc-things on the hyena/wolf rides, Ganon looking a lot like a Barlog... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] Speaking of, I hope they still have some sort of transition to show Ganon as a cloaked, evil-wizardy and/or thief type. Gannondorf as big burly type didn't appeal much...
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2004-05-11, 6:57 PM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
You can actually see that Link is wearing chainmail under his tunic.</font>


This is something I didn't notice until you pointed it out. And now that it has been brought to my attention... I love you Nintendo.
2004-05-11, 9:23 PM #38
Windwaker didn't suck because of its graphics (although I would have preferred more realistic graphics, the cel-shading wasn't that bad), it sucked because it turned an exploration game into a tedious "treasure hunt" game, and had basically nowhere to explore because the whole world was a boring ocean. I just quit playing at the point it told me "get heaps of money, then find maps to the triforce by randomly floating about, then go pay Tingle heaps of money, then go and find the triforce bits." How tedious and a pointless excuse to extend the gameplay was that??
2004-05-11, 10:02 PM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flirbnic:
Am I the only person that liked playing as young Link in OOT?

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Nope. I also liked it.

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2004-05-11, 11:20 PM #40
As it turns out, this new Zelda does in fact run on a modified version of the Wind Waker engine. If you watch closely, you might notice several things, like the animations and the rain in the beginning, in the trailer that mimic things in Wind Waker. I wonder if Nintendo is completely scrapping Wind Waker 2 and is using this new Zelda in it's place?

Nintendo states this here:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/513/513962p1.html

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