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OMG Luke Skywalker is a Sith
2005-06-17, 1:37 AM #1
The proof is in the movies!

Obi-Wan Kenobi: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

Luke: "You can either profit from this, or be destroyed."

Luke: "This is your last chance Jabba. Free us, or die!"



Hey I didnt wanna say it but the proof is in the pudding. Luke is headed down a dark path.
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2005-06-17, 1:50 AM #2
Well it kind of IS true. Jabba did die.
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2005-06-17, 1:59 AM #3
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2005-06-17, 2:26 AM #4
Well, what do you expect? His master was Sith, too.

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2005-06-17, 3:33 AM #5
It wasnt so much an absolute as it was the truth. Luke was giving him a choice; let them go free, or pay the price. A Sith would not have given him such a choice.
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2005-06-17, 3:55 AM #6
Read the books. I find Luke to be really badass at times. (Ok, a lot of times) but only in the books. It seems he can go from dark to light at will, and feed his combat with anger without going insane.
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2005-06-17, 3:56 AM #7
That, and Luke WAS headed down the Dark Side. You know, he wore black and all that fun jazz. It's not until the end of the movie that he sees himself going down the same path as his father.
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2005-06-17, 4:46 AM #8
I see him and Kyle as the best Jedis ever. It sucks in JA that they ruined Kyle. Dosen't he prefer his sawed off bryar rifle more than his saber?
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2005-06-17, 4:58 AM #9
Forget years of training, I found my dad's lightsaber in the graage, and that makes me a jedi!
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2005-06-17, 5:00 AM #10
Force Sneer!

Also, interesting points.
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2005-06-17, 5:54 AM #11
Yeah... Luke was going down a dark path, it's pretty obvious. Look at his style during his fight on bespin, and the final duel. He's giving into his anger, but then let's go after his father's death.
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2005-06-17, 6:13 AM #12
I think Burrie or someone dug up this piece of trivia... if Luke had killed his father and joined Sidious, he would have been given the title of Darth Secretus...

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2005-06-17, 6:52 AM #13
zzt wins. you can all stop debating now.
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2005-06-17, 7:06 AM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Mega_ZZTer
if Luke had killed his father and joined Sidious, he would have been given the title of Darth Secretus...


What if he had killed Sidious and joined his father?
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2005-06-17, 7:37 AM #15
Please. Palpatine was such a wuss. All Luke needed was some brambles and a picket fence, and Palpatine wouldn't have stood a chance.
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2005-06-17, 7:57 AM #16
Hey, Luke gave Jabba plenty of chances to free them, something a Sith would never do. Not to mention he was acting out of self defense by doing it that way.
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2005-06-17, 8:04 AM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Wolfy
Please. Palpatine was such a wuss. All Luke needed was some brambles and a picket fence, and Palpatine wouldn't have stood a chance.


NO-no-no-no... You will die!








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2005-06-17, 8:10 AM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by kyle90
What if he had killed Sidious and joined his father?


Darth Vader Jr. :confused:
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2005-06-17, 8:41 AM #19
That line was stupid. Especially since "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" is an absolute.
2005-06-17, 9:48 AM #20
Anyone in a rubber suit could beat Palpatine.
DO NOT WANT.
2005-06-17, 9:49 AM #21
BATMAN COULD BEAT PALPATINE???

:confused:
2005-06-17, 10:11 AM #22
Oh, because his only prominent power is Force lightning! I get it.
2005-06-17, 10:15 AM #23
Quote:
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet
That line was stupid. Especially since "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" is an absolute.

Uh oh!
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2005-06-17, 10:18 AM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Mega_ZZTer
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Hehe. I like that.
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2005-06-17, 10:31 AM #25
Quote:
Originally posted by money•bie
BATMAN COULD BEAT PALPATINE???

:confused:


Yes, palpatine would die of disgust from the Rubber nipples on his last suit.
nope.
2005-06-17, 11:04 AM #26
Man, the Adam West Batman could beat Palpatine. I mean, one "POW" and it'd be all over.
2005-06-17, 11:38 AM #27
Quote:
Originally posted by gbk
It wasnt so much an absolute as it was the truth. Luke was giving him a choice; let them go free, or pay the price. A Sith would not have given him such a choice.


Exactly. It is why Jedi have powers to blind, push people off cliffs, pull their weapons away from them, etc.

Point? Jedi can be offencive too. But it's defencive offence.'


BUT ALSO: Luke was heading down the Dark Side too. Ever since he defied Yoda and Ben's warning not to go to Bespin. He went anyways.
2005-06-17, 11:47 AM #28
Not to mention Luke used Force Choke on the Gamorreans when he entered the palace. He was walking a fine line between light and dark there.
2005-06-17, 11:59 AM #29
i think luke is one of those jedi who tends to walk between the paths though more toward the light side
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2005-06-17, 12:08 PM #30
Unfortunately, in many of the EU books, look is a pansy. He's always afraid to use even the basic of force powers because he's afraid of slipping towards the dark side. I thought we established it was more about what you use the force for instead of how you use it? Granted you could say that lightning requires hatred and dark side energy to generate, but lots of light Jedi have done their fair share of choking I'm sure.
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2005-06-17, 2:06 PM #31
Quote:
Originally posted by Emon
Unfortunately, in many of the EU books, look is a pansy. He's always afraid to use even the basic of force powers because he's afraid of slipping towards the dark side. I thought we established it was more about what you use the force for instead of how you use it? Granted you could say that lightning requires hatred and dark side energy to generate, but lots of light Jedi have done their fair share of choking I'm sure.


Yes, like Jacen "Really god damned awful character" Solo. I hate the EU half the time...
2005-06-17, 3:04 PM #32
Obi-Wan or Yoda are the best Jedi ever.
2005-06-17, 4:16 PM #33
Quote:
Originally posted by Temperamental
Obi-Wan or Yoda are the best Jedi ever.



Ploo Kun.
2005-06-17, 4:20 PM #34
Quote:
Not to mention Luke used Force Choke on the Gamorreans when he entered the palace. He was walking a fine line between light and dark there.


Beat me to it! :)
2005-06-17, 4:30 PM #35
Quote:
Originally posted by Anovis
Plo Koon.


fixed

and when is he ever shown doing anything but sitting down or getting shot out of the sky?
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2005-06-17, 4:57 PM #36
I thought Luke was a badass at the beginning of Return of the Jedi. He walks into Jabba's palace calmly, force choking the guards like it was nothing. Then he nonchantly says to Jabba that he should give him back his friends or die.
2005-06-17, 5:11 PM #37
Quote:
Originally posted by Cloud
I thought Luke was a badass at the beginning of Return of the Jedi. He walks into Jabba's palace calmly, force choking the guards like it was nothing. Then he nonchantly says to Jabba that he should give him back his friends or die.


True dat.

And on Endor he became an arrogant SOB, bossing around Leia and all like "Yeah you take that one, I'll take these 2 cause Im a JEDI AND I AM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!11!1!"
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2005-06-17, 5:43 PM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by money•bie
Oh, because his only prominent power is Force lightning! I get it.
We don't really know the extent of palpatine's powers. We do know he almost effortlessly used the force, though.

"You no longer need those."

*vague motion of hand and a glance, and the shackels unlock and fall off*


[edit]
ALTERNATE VERSION:
"You no longer need those."

*force grips teh balls*
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2005-06-17, 5:54 PM #39
Quote:
Originally posted by DSettahr
Not to mention Luke used Force Choke on the Gamorreans when he entered the palace. He was walking a fine line between light and dark there.


I think I read somewhere he just rendered them unconscious somehow.

Quote:
Originally posted by Lord Kuat
Yes, like Jacen "Really god damned awful character" Solo. I hate the EU half the time...

Did you read Traitor? I thought that book was damn good.

ReT
2005-06-17, 5:57 PM #40
Obi-wan and luke are the most badass jedi ever.

Second, I am really disappointed that Yoda is/was such a pansy. Mace Windu kicked palpatine's ***, but yoda couldn't do anything to him.
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