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Death is no problem... you can always bring them back as zombies...
2005-06-30, 1:21 PM #161
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Originally posted by Echoman
I thought they proved that "near-death experience" was just dreaming.
I'm lucky to remember a dream from a week ago, much less nearly 20 years ago.
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2005-06-30, 1:27 PM #162
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Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I'm lucky to remember a dream from a week ago, much less nearly 20 years ago.


It's not exactly a dream though (I think it was something like a chemical that blocks receptors for glutamate - it has a name, but I forgot). Also, a "dream" with such a significant emotional impact as a near-death experience is bound to stay with you for the rest of your life. It's like memory coding on speed.
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enshu
2005-06-30, 1:41 PM #163
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Apparently, they have succeeded in bringing recently deceased dogs back to life by swapping the blood with a ice-cold saline chemical and applying massive ammounts of electricity. Creepy.


I knew it!!! See I always discussed that kinda stuff with my friend johnny, I said the only thing that really creeps me out is the thought of zombies, because I wouldnt be suprised if eventually the government learns how to reanimate bodies like that...hence why i'm seriously gonna get cremated when I die. I'm giving away my organs and then getting cremated, I dont know, just something wrong about the thought of my body decaying underground with a whole bunch of other people I dont know, decaying around me, that just seems...creepy and not right. Ashes to ashes right.

Anywho, that's just creepy. Zombies (or the thought of them) creep me out.
2005-06-30, 1:44 PM #164
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke
If God really existed and wanted you to die, wouldn't that happen anyways? I mean, if mere humans can thwart God's will then how is he a god?


This is the mistaken conclusion some people draw--God is not allowed to interfere with humans, or he would cease to be God. Free will would cease to exist, Christianity would have no purpose, humanity would be meaningless, etc. Think about it.
D E A T H
2005-06-30, 1:47 PM #165
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Originally posted by Tenshu
It's not exactly a dream though (I think it was something like a chemical that blocks receptors for glutamate - it has a name, but I forgot). Also, a "dream" with such a significant emotional impact as a near-death experience is bound to stay with you for the rest of your life. It's like memory coding on speed.
But how much of an impact would it be on me that young? I basically float above my body for a couple seconds, see 2 doctors operating on me, and that it. Not enough to normally stick into a person's memory. Stuff a 2-year-old wouldn't likely care about.
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2005-06-30, 1:55 PM #166
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
This is the mistaken conclusion some people draw--God is not allowed to interfere with humans, or he would cease to be God. Free will would cease to exist, Christianity would have no purpose, humanity would be meaningless, etc. Think about it.


But according to religious folk, he created people. That's the most interferring thing ever. He influences peoples lives. He tells people how they should live. Free will can't exist along with god, but lets not go into that again.
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2005-06-30, 1:57 PM #167
Regarding some earlier posts, are you guys aware that ascetic Jews believe blood to be sacred, iirc don't take transfusions, and if an ascetic man is shot they will do their best to lift all the blood from the street before his burial?

I also think they won't submit to autopsies since that would mean the body would have to be burried later than the mandated time.

It might not be your belief or mine, but you might consider showing some respect.
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2005-06-30, 2:07 PM #168
If I have more blood than you, does that me me holier than thou? :o
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2005-06-30, 2:08 PM #169
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Originally posted by TheJkWhoSaysNi
But according to religious folk, he created people. That's the most interferring thing ever.
Logically, you can't interfere with something that doesn't yet exist. By definition, anyway.
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2005-06-30, 4:49 PM #170
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Originally posted by -Monoxide-
You're getting so worked up over nothing. I WAS KIDDING. It's called SARCASM. Jeeze..., I think healing someone through medical practice is totally fine, but if someone has been dead for over 5 minutes... reviving them is just wrong.


What's so special about 5 minutes?

Someone that was dead for 5 seconds and resuscitated, that's totally fine and dandy, but someone that was dead for 5 minutes, woooooooaaah that's totally unnatural and against "God's plan"!
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2005-06-30, 4:58 PM #171
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Originally posted by -Monoxide-
If God picks you to die. You should.
I hate doctor's playing God.


Doctors don't "play God" - they are there to heal and care for the sick and the injured. So what if they revive someone? If the person was truly meant to die, He wouldn't let them be revived, don't you think?
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2005-06-30, 5:22 PM #172
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
This is the mistaken conclusion some people draw--God is not allowed to interfere with humans, or he would cease to be God. Free will would cease to exist, Christianity would have no purpose, humanity would be meaningless, etc. Think about it.


Therefore all this "Going against His will" stuff is wrong, yes?
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2005-06-30, 6:52 PM #173
I'm going to make some brief points directed specifically at Christians in this thread, for some reason (not trying to derail it, though).

If God didn't want us to save each other's lives, Jesus wouldn't have said "No greater love has a man than this, that he would lay down his life for a friend."

Not to mention (I promise I'm going somewhere with this):
Leviticus 17:11 - "For the life of the flesh is in the blood..."
Deuteronomy 30:19 - "...therefore choose life..."
Deuteronomy 30:20 - "That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life."

Ok, so it's pretty evident God wants us to live. People saving each other would be in agreement with God, thank you very much.

Of course, I have this nasty habbit of interpreting the Bible as it's written that a lot of people don't seem to like. :p

Not to mention Jesus resurrected Lazarus, and he was dead 4 days. (Ok, so it's not the same thing, but still... :o )


So, I'm not going to argue this since I'm trying not to derail the thread, but it seems like a lot of people think "OH NOES it's against God's will" when clearly, it's not.

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2005-06-30, 6:59 PM #174
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
This is the mistaken conclusion some people draw--God is not allowed to interfere with humans, or he would cease to be God. Free will would cease to exist, Christianity would have no purpose, humanity would be meaningless, etc. Think about it.


So what you are saying is god cannot interfere with our world at all. In other word's, he cannot affect it in anyway, since he would be interfering with humans in the process. So then God's will would not dictate anything in our world. If a person dies it is by mere chance, not some kind of deeper reason that they had to die. So interfering with that (ie: "playing god") would be fine.
2005-06-30, 7:00 PM #175
I just clicked on this thread expecting the awesomeness that is discussion about zombie dogs and I automatically see the words jesus and god like 14 times. It's time for a lock.
Think while it's still legal.
2005-06-30, 9:21 PM #176
Whoa guys, this is not the time, nor the place for a religious discussion. I'd really like to reply, but I think you guys took a slight tangent on one topic (though admittedly so did I). Back on topic eh?
D E A T H
2005-06-30, 9:23 PM #177
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Originally posted by DogSRoOL
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Quoted for Truth.
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2005-06-30, 10:08 PM #178
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Whoa guys, this is not the time, nor the place for a religious discussion. I'd really like to reply, but I think you guys took a slight tangent on one topic (though admittedly so did I). Back on topic eh?


I think this discussion is perfectly on topic.
2005-07-01, 12:20 AM #179
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke
If God really existed and wanted you to die, wouldn't that happen anyways? I mean, if mere humans can thwart God's will then how is he a god?


But maybe you wear supposed to be brought back to life. How do you know that? If you believe in god, then you should believe that everything happens for a reason.
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2005-07-01, 4:17 AM #180
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Whoa guys, this is not the time, nor the place for a religious discussion.


Then where is?

(Bring back religious forum!)
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2005-07-01, 4:29 AM #181
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Originally posted by Mort-Hog

(Bring back religious forum!)


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enshu
2005-07-01, 8:43 AM #182
NO!

*runs away*
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2005-07-01, 11:21 AM #183
If God does not interfere with this world, then how do we "know" of him?
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2005-07-01, 11:22 AM #184
Got bored of this thread about halfway down page 2, but I just have to say...

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Originally posted by Genki
This is why you ALWAYS aim for the head when you kill zombies, YA CAN'T COME BACK WITHOUT A BRAIN


Genki wins again!
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2005-07-01, 11:28 AM #185
But why do they eat brains then?

:confused:
2005-07-01, 11:32 AM #186
To get smarter. Duh.
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