I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'd also like your opinions on the Revolution, Xbox 360 and PS3.


First off, I've heard rumors that the Revolution will be able to run PlayStation and Xbox games. I'm almost entirely sure that this is complete bullshiz. Personally, I just hope it runs Gamecube minidiscs.

One console will not run another consoles game. That would be illegal, or else they would have to pay exponential royalites to the other company. Also, I'll be going with the XBOX 360 if anything, it has the best online play.

Thats the worst rumour I've ever heard. The only think we know about the Revolution, is that you can download specific N64 and GC games for free and play 'em.

Woot.. just reading the E3 article on Nintendo.com. Revolution is GC compatible... wonder what the paddles look like..

Matterialize [first post]: Duh. It's not even worth considering to be true. They said that same thing about the GameCube playing PS/PS2 games I thought.

The X-Box 360 and PS3 will supposedly not be as powerful as their benchmarks and mhz speed indicate. According to some tests done on the processors that will be used or something, the systems' processors will only be about 2x as powerful as the previous generations'.

Compare that to the Revolution, which Nintendo has commented will be "only" 2x to 3x more powerful than the GameCube, and I'm getting more interested.

I forget where I read this article. I thought slashdot, but I couldn't find it.

Anyways I'm definately excited about the FREE Nintendo WIFI multiplayer service. Coming to some DS games soon, and it seems it will be a big part of the Revolution. At least, Nintendo seems to be focusing more on the MP aspect of games. For example, Mario 64 DS and Yoshi's Touch and Go, two games which you wouldn't expect to have MP modes, both have them.

[Edit: Mat, they haven't released the "paddle" design yet. :)]

[Edit: Sol: You will be able to download supposedly ANY game for any classic Nintendo console. I'm guessing they'll do Nintendo, SNES, and N64 games. Maybe GB and GBC, definately not GBA or GameCube. Or maybe they'll release games that are N years old, so you could see some games for the newer consoles. At any rate, they haven't yet decided whether this feature will be free or whether you'll have to pay a small price to download a game.]

[Edit: Mono... you might want to check out Revolution's online capabilites before deciding too quickly, they seem to be targetting X-Box Live... like I said, they will be offering a FREE service.

Of course, that could force MS to lower or drop Live fees (doubtful) in which case everyone wins. :)]

Hope MP gaming on the Revolution will be free, too...

Man, Animal Crossing on WIFI? That'll be awesome... although the game gets a little boring.

Ha, I was thinking more like Mario Kart DS (it is one of the games that will be able to use it) or the confirmed WIFI Super Smash Bros game for Revolution.

Something I read in NGC which I found interesting was that there'll be a special key available for the Revolution which fits under the disc drive (or somewhere, I think it was the disc drive), enabling it to play DVDs. This means that, since it's not classed as a DVD player, Nintendo don't have to pay a fee to the DVD Forum, so the overall cost is reduced.

YESSSS!!! SSB on WIFI!!! Ohhh man... I'm gonna have a heart attack... I can't wait! I'm saving my cash now. Mario Kart will be fun, but I plan on hooking my soon-to-be-bought Revolution up to the Big Screen. Play a little SSB... They'd better not just reinvent it. Keep Kirby, Marth and Roy, and get all new characters. That's all I ask. They should include an Inuyasha character... yeaz! Awexome!!!

I know Twilight Princess is coming up, but someone oughta create a multiplayer game based on the Zelda theme, or at least work a multiplayer aspect into a regular Zelda game. Don't ask me how... I don't know... but an adolescent can dream, can't he?

Somebody call a doctor, I think I have a tumor.

EDIT: Roy, Ganondorf, etc. were all useless characters and should be replaced.

Ooh, ah, perhaps a Jedi character? Maybe Jedi Master Luke Skywalker?????

You just used "Jedi" in the context of "fighting game".

Remember Masters of Teras Kasi?

Nope. Jog my memory.

That was actually a good game! (When you don't let the other person get up)

hopefuly they wont do the thing they did with animal crossing and harvist moon

(animal crossing was never going to get a pal region release originaly, now you can find it in almost any shop that sells gamecube games, while harvist moon was only given a small number of copies, seemed like one shipment, and it is a popular frranchise)

And yet, no Doshin the Giant for Americans.

Nintendo Fanboy + Promise of revolutionary gameplay + trusting nintendo + love of all nintendo games + Super Smash Bros promised at launch ONLINE = Win

SAJN Makes a good point. An Online Super Smash Brothers would be absolutley awesome.

i tend to think of episode 3 vs mode these days

Just to clear some things up

When the 360 comes out, the new Live service will be split. The first version is completely free and everyone with broadband will have access to it. I forget the exact details, but you'll have access to Downloadable Content and such completely free of charge and total access to whatever new gets thrown onto Live. The downside is that (I do believe) you'll only be able to play for free on the weekends. That's the free version. The version you have to pay for of course includes all of that, plus a tad more, and you can play whenever you want.

I'm not up on all the details since I have neither Live, nor broadband, and thus don't care, but the above is at least semi accurate information and has been officially confirmed.

i wonder if they will suddenly make premium DLC free for all games too... so far the only PDLC i am seriously considering is the PGR2 content (since it has some extra cars that i would like to have)

I dunno... But most of that eventually becomes free at some point anyway, right?

Again, not having Live, I don't know how it works. The only DLC I've been paying attention to is for Halo 2

no... Halo2 is the first to do that (have they made all the maps freely available yet?)

Well, I'm gonna get a 360. I'm already saving my money. And now that I hear that all this stuff about the 360 and PS3 not being NEAR as powerful as they claimed, but Nintendo being truthful, I'm happy. I'm getting a 360 because most PC games end up ported to it, so I'll save money by not buying an expensive computer. But after that, we'll prolly get a Revolution. I love Nintendo, but they completely borked up the GCN and got no game after like 2003. They just couldn't compete, and got game from companies they owned mainly. I'd want a PS3, but if it means finally giving up on good computer games and Nintendo, I'm not gonna do it. Plus, I'm not gonna spend over 300$ for a console. And I can't play games online, so I don't really care about that. 28k after all...

Trust me, it's possibly MORE powerful then they claim :p They say Sony is going to lose like a billion dollars on the PS3 when it comes out. It's going to cost $400 but it cost $460 to make or something like that.

And the only cure is more cowbell!


And Roy was NOT useless. He was my favorite/best character.

Well, I think Sony's machine is not going to be however many times as powerful as PS2 as their stating, simply for the fact that it seems like if graphics were 20x time of PS2, it would look like real life.

I agree with what a magazine said, in that next generation is probably going to start the mass production of games where the sole wow factor is 100's of enemies on screen at a time.

What fun that'll be...

Ummm, have you seen the PS3? Some of the stuff they can do DOES look like real life. I don't mean close I mean like some stuff they showed at E3 could easily be confused for video footage.

If you're referring to the NBA video or the Fight Night one, big deal. Show us a PLAYABLE demo with everything going on and lets see how it will look before we state it'll look like real life.

Remember Sony saying PS2 will produce visuals like Toy Story? Sony is known for boasting.

Ummm, they got Alfred Molina from Spiderman 2 and remade him on the PS3 realtime. Hold on screenshots in a second.

IT WAS PRE-RENDERED! IT WAS VIDEO FOOTAGE! And i found GT4 to look amazing. I've seen the comparison of the car driving between cones in real and in game and i'm like...where's the difference? Photorealistic graphics are coming this next gen people. Bad part is, I don't like photorealistic because it's realistic...not fake. It being fakey is what makes it fun.

SAJN, I watched all of the press conferences at E3 - so I saw that whole demonstration with Sony.

What about the ducks falling in the tub! :p

also i think i remember an EA NBA game showing video back when the PS2 was just coming out... then the game looking much worse

And Final Fantasy 7/8. But that's not Sony...

Umm, no it isn't Zloc. It's REAL TIME. Yes, the PS3 is THAT GOOD. I hate Sony, I'm a Nintendo Fanboy. The PS3 is just amazingly AWESOME. Here, look if you don't believe me.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/playstation3hardware/media.html

Scroll down to the one that says 'This tech demo shows Alfred Molina as Dr. Octopus rendered in real time. ' Stream it at the highest quality if you can.

I have been humbled.

What about the Killzone trailer SAJN? Do you really think the final product will look like that?

*Interview* http://ps3.ign.com/articles/616/616591p1.html

The bottom states the comment do they think they'll see that type graphics in the final game *to the editors of IGN*. It was just too scripted, people moving at exactly the right moment, and finally a CONCEPT video.

That's what they want it to look like and play like. But once they implement all the coding so its not scripted and have hell going on, then that is usually where the graphics get lowered due to the increase in system requirements for everything else.

hmm... I coulda sworn others had done it already....

The first four are currently on Live for free right now. That includes Containment, Turf, Warlock, and Sancuary I do believe. The remainder come out July 5th on Live and on a DVD pack (which has the Auto Updates, all the maps, and a few other goodies). You'll have to pay over Live for the remaining 5, but those become free in late August.

Didn't they announce that it was realtime a while later?