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The EU is way too big.
2005-07-07, 3:38 PM #1
I mean, really.

[http://www.omnisu.com/star_wars_books.jpg]

They are in chronological order. I waited until the last New Jedi Order book was out in paperback, then bought that entire series, because I read way to fast and want a lot of material to enjoy. You can see the book mark in that picture: Three days, and I'm already into the third NJO book.

Fourty Nine, and I don't even have all of them! And then you have to deal with the video games and the comic books! How many times can the Solos and Skywalkers escape imminent death anyway?
2005-07-07, 3:42 PM #2
I thought you meant the European Union. :(
nope.
2005-07-07, 3:43 PM #3
You're missing the Lando Calrissian Adventures. You arent allowed to gloat until you have the wonderful trilogy narrating the hilarious Adventures of Lando and his trusty droid companion Vuffi Ra as they cavort across the galaxy in the Falcon evading Imperials at every turn.
2005-07-07, 3:44 PM #4
Are any of these books particularly good?
2005-07-07, 3:46 PM #5
The "bumpasaurus" needs to hurry up and become extinct less he be banned for making another un-needed cameo. -DSettahr
2005-07-07, 3:50 PM #6
The thrawn trilogy is good. The NJO series is, so far.

I've read the lando adventures; I'll have to order that one. Most of the older books, if you look at them, you can see some that are pristine and some that have bent up spines. I've read all of them, except NJO and darksaber (I think), but a lot of them I got from the library when I was younger and penniless. So I went ahead and got them; but haven't actually read that copy of the book.

I still need:
-One of the jedi academy trilogy books
-One of the x-wing books
-The correllian trilogy
-One of the bounty hunter trilogy books
-The rest of the han solo trilogy
-The 'tales from' series (Cantina, bounty hunters, Jabba?)
-All the books set before Revenge of the Sith
-The movie novelizations.
-The lando adventures

But before I can get them, I need to clear off another shelf!
2005-07-07, 3:52 PM #7
Bumpasaurus? The thread's like ten minutes old.
2005-07-07, 3:53 PM #8
Yeah. It is. DSettahr is acting weird. O.o

Anyways, I started the books out of order. Word of advice? Don't.
2005-07-07, 4:02 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by Anovis
The "bumpasaurus" needs to hurry up and become extinct less he be banned for making another un-needed cameo. -DSettahr


Haha, that made my day.
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2005-07-07, 4:02 PM #10
I thought this thread was going to be about Turkish membership negotiations. :(
2005-07-07, 4:08 PM #11
The only EU books I consider to be worth reading, in Chronilogical Order:

Lando Calrissian Adventures
Han Solo Adventures
Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy
X-wing books 1-7 (not 8 or 9)
Thrawn Trilogy

Those are the only really good ones, imo.
2005-07-07, 4:09 PM #12
Thankyou, for making me feel like less of a nerd. :)
2005-07-07, 4:11 PM #13
Only EU book I read was the Truce at Bakura, which I didnt see..Anways, its supposed to be the first book set RIGHT after ROTJ.
2005-07-07, 4:12 PM #14
pretty much, the Thrawn trilogy, the X-Wing Series, the Jedi Academy trilogy and/or I, Jedi (I recommend the latter simply because I really didn't like the former), the Hand of Thrawn duology, Survivor's Quest, and the NJO are really the only books that have much significance on the EU. The Courtship of Princess Leia isn't mandatory, but if you have the time and the patience to read it, it'll be less confusing later on when the hapans turn up in other books. Survivor's quest isn't really mandatory either, but it's an excellent read if you liked any of the Thrawn books. Similarly, the later x-wing books aren't terribly significant, but they're great reads nonetheless. I, Jedi takes place during the Jedi Academy trilogy and sums it up pretty well, so if you're like me and want to avoid all of KJA's work like the bubonic plague, read that instead.

And stuff.
Moo.
2005-07-07, 4:32 PM #15
You don't seem to understand. If it says star wars, I'll read it. And also I never got why people hated KJA so much, but you aren't the first to express that opinion.

What is this Survivor's Quest? I've never heard of it. >.< They need to publish a complete list in the front of these books damnit.
2005-07-07, 5:05 PM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by Boco
I thought you meant the European Union. :(
Me too.

On a side note, I thought the Bounty Hunter Trilogy had a terrible plot (that whole Xizor inciting the Bounty Hunter war to get cheap hunters nonsense), and seemed like just an excuse to give Boba Fett a series of books. I never read the last one though.
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2005-07-07, 6:12 PM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by JM
And also I never got why people hated KJA so much, but you aren't the first to express that opinion.


Kevin J Anderson is practically incapable of writing a Star Wars novel with involving the death star in some way.

Tales of the Bounty Hunters: IG-88 takes over the second Death Star, without anyone on the Empire having a clue.

Jedi Academy Trilogy: Death Star prototype at the Maw Installation. Also dont forget the Suncrusher- something even more powerful than a Death Star.

Darksaber: The Hutts attempt to build their own scaled down version of a Death Star called the Darksaber.

I personally dont like his style of writing... he seems to write at a middle school comprehension reading level.
2005-07-07, 6:19 PM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by Boco
I thought you meant the European Union. :(
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2005-07-07, 6:31 PM #19
The European Union is also too big; but I suppose it is one step on the road to a world government. I like my way better.
2005-07-07, 6:34 PM #20
Quote:
I personally dont like his style of writing... he seems to write at a middle school comprehension reading level.


As long as they don't let the lady who wrote 'The Crystal Star' do anymore, it's golden.
2005-07-07, 7:27 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by JM
You don't seem to understand. If it says star wars, I'll read it. And also I never got why people hated KJA so much, but you aren't the first to express that opinion.

What is this Survivor's Quest? I've never heard of it. >.< They need to publish a complete list in the front of these books damnit.


Oh, I wasn't directing that at you, exactly, just kinda stating in general. KnobZ asked if any of them were worth reading, and you said you still were missing some books, so I jumped into EU mode and started spouting out suggestions :p

KJA, IMO, writes at as someon else above described as a middleschool comprehension level. Which isn't exactly a bad thing (and, in fact, the young jedi knight series, aimed for middleschoolers, was excellent for what it was intended for and was what got me into the EU), but they're just a bit cheesy, for lack of a better term. If like it, or atleast tolerate it, more power to you, but it just doesn't really fit my taste. He's not a bad author, just not an author that I like too much. (And admittably much better than the lady who did Crystal Star)

As for Survivor's Quest, it's a book focusing on Luke and Mara, between the Hand of Thrawn duology and the NJO. Pretty much they head to the unknown regions, run into the chiss, and find what was left of the outbound flight project. It doesn't have much impact on galactic events, but if you liked the Thrawn series, it's something worth reading.

Also, Zahn's written a book about outbound flight itself, titled, well, Outbound Flight :p. It's set to be released this october, I think.

Then sometime this month, Dark Nest I: Joiner King is released, part of a trilogy by Troy Denning (Star by Star and Tatooine Ghost) set after the NJO. Not much is known about the plot, but supposedly it ties in with the NJO, Tatooine Ghost, and the new series of books. Also, Kyle Katarn is said to have a role in it :D

Then sometime within the next year or so (don't remember the dates), the first book of the new Legacy of the Force series is released, set I think 5 years after the closing of the NJO. It's a 9 book series opening up a "new era" in Star Wars, based mostly around the newer, younger characters. Aaron Allston (Wraith Squadron series, Starfighters of Adumar, and Enemy Lines 1 & 2), Troy Denning, and Karen Traviss (Republic Commando: Hard Contact) will each be writing three books each, but not in trilogies; they're alternating per-book, starting with the first book written by Allston, titled 'Betrayal'. Again, not much is known about the plot, but those three are each great authors, so I'm looking forward to that.

Speaking of Republic Commando, I highly suggest that, as well. It was a surprisingly good book (I had low hopes, as it was written as a promotional thing for the game, but it turned out to be really good), and showed a side of the clone army that you don't normally see. There's also a sequel, Republic Commando: Triple Zero being released sometime soon, too, but I don't know about the specifics.

And there I go again, randomly spouting out information. Sorry about that :P
Moo.
2005-07-07, 8:14 PM #22
Ah, well. A bit of amazon.com research made my list of books I didn't even know existed explode! Naturally, I have made it my goal to collect, and read, them all; though I will certainly wait until the new ones are in paperback. Looking at the black nest trilogy on it's way, it seems that, due to their close release dates, they must all already be finished, and I shouldn't have to wait long. Regardless; another order from amazon has to wait a month or two.

Currently, my cart contains:

Tales from Jabba's palace
Tales of the bounty hunters
Hard Merchandise
Ambush at corellia
showdown at centerpoint
Assualt at selona
Planet of twilight
Splinter of the mind's eye (Which sucks...)
Adventures of Lando Calrissian
Survivor's quest
Tales from the Empire
Tales from the New Republic
Tales from Mis Eisly Cantina
Han Solo trilogy 2 and 3.

15 books; and I havn't touched the clone wars series yet.
2005-07-07, 8:45 PM #23
i haven't read a single SW book - it's just something about fan fiction (and, believe it or not, at it's heart it's STILL fan fiction) that makes me want to cringe.

prove me terribly wrong.
幻術
2005-07-07, 8:52 PM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by Koobie
i haven't read a single SW book - it's just something about fan fiction (and, believe it or not, at it's heart it's STILL fan fiction) that makes me want to cringe.

prove me terribly wrong.


well, it all is reviewed, approved, and authorized by people lucas put in place to do such things, so it's all considered "official" canon, but to each his own
Moo.
2005-07-07, 8:53 PM #25
Quote:
Originally posted by Koobie
i haven't read a single SW book - it's just something about fan fiction (and, believe it or not, at it's heart it's STILL fan fiction) that makes me want to cringe.

prove me terribly wrong.


Give the Thrawn Trilogy a try. If you only read one EU Story from Star Wars, it should be the Thrawn Trilogy.
2005-07-07, 8:57 PM #26
Here's my collection of Star Wars Sourcebooks from the West End Games Roleplaying Game (as posted before):

[http://img58.echo.cx/img58/9222/0604007416gk.jpg]
2005-07-07, 9:13 PM #27
my collection, around 80, some duplicates
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2005-07-07, 9:31 PM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Koobie
i haven't read a single SW book - it's just something about fan fiction (and, believe it or not, at it's heart it's STILL fan fiction) that makes me want to cringe.

prove me terribly wrong.


Actually, there was a time when it was much more. In the very early nineties when Star Wars was really little more than a memory, however vivid, for most Timothy Zahn's books came out. The Dark Empire comics were released around that time as well. Books and comics series slowly leaked out and most were of very high quality. Then, like a snowball rolling in the snow getting larger, more and more material began to be released. Much of it good but also many that couldn't quite compare to some of the other material. Maybe they weren't "bad" but just not good in comparison. Now, with all the high quality games and films on DVD the books probably don't hold the interest they once did. There are so many now that if you already weren't into them it's kind of hard to imagine starting.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2005-07-07, 9:34 PM #29
go to wikipedia.org and look at their EU on star wars. you don't have to read any books and be completely up to date.
-If you don't know, then don't ask...
2005-07-08, 12:34 AM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Bounty Hunter 4 hire
On a side note, I thought the Bounty Hunter Trilogy had a terrible plot (that whole Xizor inciting the Bounty Hunter war to get cheap hunters nonsense), and seemed like just an excuse to give Boba Fett a series of books. I never read the last one though.


I really hated them. They were so boring. Even the action scenes just dragged on and on and on and on...
I can't decide which books I like less the Bounty Hunter Wars or Barbara Hambley's books.
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-07-08, 12:55 AM #31
I liked Shadows of the Empire. It seems to be one of the only EU books I even remember.

Also, even though the prequel movies were kinda sloppy, I've really liked pretty much all of the pre-ANH EU stuff. Especially the Clone Wars cartoon.

I could read some more EU stuff someday.
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2005-07-08, 1:00 AM #32
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[http://www.starwars-tw.com/expand/tool/art_of_empire.jpg]

[http://www.starwars-tw.com/expand/tool/art_of_return.jpg]

[http://www.sumaleth.com/images/covers3/swillustrated.JPG]

All the EU I need.
DISCLAIMER: This is just armchair observation, not the result of many hours of deliberate study of the subject. I'm by no means an expert, but just an ignorant hick who's putting his two cents in. For that and a nickel, you can have a cup of coffee.
2005-07-08, 1:01 AM #33
Quote:
go to wikipedia.org and look at their EU on star wars. you don't have to read any books and be completely up to date.


fixed.
幻術
2005-07-08, 1:06 AM #34
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_Universe_%28Star_Wars%29

This entry is from Wikipedia, the leading user-contributed encyclopedia. It may not have been reviewed by professional editors (see full disclaimer)
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2005-07-08, 1:57 AM #35
Wow, A_Big_Fat_CoW, where did you get all that?!?!

I've been trying to figure out when the next books are coming for months now.


Now for a simple question. I've heard about a book that deals with a clone of the emperor. Supposedly, Luke turns dark in it as well. Does anyone know what that book's called? I've looked everywhere online/offline and can't find the name of it. The only thing I've found are referenced to it in the other Star Wars books. (every now and then, they'll make reference to the cloned emperor and Luke's brush with the dark side) If anyone can help me find this book, I would greatly appreciate it.
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2005-07-08, 5:26 AM #36
Starwars.com is always a good resource to find out what SW-books will come out.

And you can't find the book with the cloned Emperor, because there aren't any such books. They are comics. I think it's the Dark Empire series.
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-07-08, 6:07 AM #37
A lot of the novels have also been turned into comics. the Zahn trilogy, the Rogue Squadron series, Shadows of the Empire and quite a few more.
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2005-07-08, 9:45 AM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by DSettahr
You're missing the Lando Calrissian Adventures. You arent allowed to gloat until you have the wonderful trilogy narrating the hilarious Adventures of Lando and his trusty droid companion Vuffi Ra as they cavort across the galaxy in the Falcon evading Imperials at every turn.



Hellz yes. The Lando Calrissian Adventures is the greatest piece of Star Wars fiction ever written.
2005-07-08, 9:51 AM #39
IF you like Lando.
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2005-07-08, 9:55 AM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by SG-fan
Wow, A_Big_Fat_CoW, where did you get all that?!?!

I've been trying to figure out when the next books are coming for months now.


Now for a simple question. I've heard about a book that deals with a clone of the emperor. Supposedly, Luke turns dark in it as well. Does anyone know what that book's called? I've looked everywhere online/offline and can't find the name of it. The only thing I've found are referenced to it in the other Star Wars books. (every now and then, they'll make reference to the cloned emperor and Luke's brush with the dark side) If anyone can help me find this book, I would greatly appreciate it.


Dark Empire by Dark Horse Comics.

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