Oooh. If it didn't look like its going to suck from the trailer I'd be excited.

Scratch that, it looks better from the theatrical trailer. But it doesn't look like it'll have the charm of the original.

Johnny Depp is horrible in that movie.

"Lets Booggie"

ANY AND EVERY moving with someone bearing the name "Willy Wonka" and lacking Gene Wilder is bound for failure.

I don't like how people put their gum on the surfaces of public places. FIND A FRICKIN TRASH CAN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Tim Burton made it, so how bad can it be?

As bad as Planet of the Apes.

Touché, sir. Touché.

If it wasn't Burton + Depp + Elfman, I might agree.

However, I disagree.

Willy Wonka actually did horrible in theaters. It wasn't close to the book at all, and the author wasn't too happy at all. This is supposed to be better than the original and more accurate to the book. I can't wait.

I'm looking forward to it.

The trailer makes it look pretty bad, but I have faith.

I think I read that whoever wrote it had actually never seen the movie.

I think it's more important that they read the book than watch the movie. It's supposed to be an adaptation of the book, not a remake of the first movie.

I know, that was my point, I just didn't clarify all that well.

I'm still going to go see it. I don't expect anything though.

I will be seeing it.

I think you should agree to disagree.

Do you disagree?

"everything in this room is eatable. im eatable, but that, my children, is called cannibalism, and is frowned upon in many cultures"

haha i cant wait. going right after work tomorrow.

I don't have high hopes.

I really liked the original, Gene Wilder came across as a tour guide through a strange landscape who had become weary of the wonders and monstrosities that fill his daily life. He lived in a kind of tired delirium, and could deliver any pun straight into someone's face without blinking. Really, almost every character in the movie played this kind of straight man for its subtle jokes, with no one being over the top, even when Wilder was singing on the gas powered Wonka Wash car. The musical numbers added greatly to this, making the movie beautiful and disturbing.

On the other hand, the previews I've seen of Burton/Depp's film look more like a Michael Jackson-esque character giving a tour of his ranch with lots of CGI (every movie needs lots of CGI now). It looks like it will be to the first movie what Phantom Menace was to the trilogy - a glitzy, shallow pandering to children. Of course children were the audience for the previous film; but wheras the original had a gritty Grimm's fairy tales atmosphere where children aren't safe, this one looks to have a naive Teletubbies one, where children can be lead safely by their moronic guide to the film's conclusion.

I hope I'm wrong, I like a lot of Burton and Depp's work, the previews for this one just make me sad.

Willy Wonka was not disturbing at all.



Burton used almost no CGI (only for a few scenes) but like 90% of the movie is real. Set pieces and what not.

Everything was fantastic except for Willy Wonka. I DID NOT like the way Depp played him or his lines at all. I loved Gene Wilder because he was charming and witty. Depp's Wonka was just... ridiculous and immature, which does fit with the story, but I liked Gene's Wonka because he was a little ***** with class.

It looks good.

I'm not really looking forward to it, mostly because I love the Gene Wilder version, and I can't seem to get passed my bias. Also, from what the previews show, something about Depp's version of Wonka seems extremely off. Not appealing at all.

I still feel a need to see it though. Despite my bias, I can enter the theater with an open mind.

THIS MOVIE IS NOT A REMAKE OF THE OTHER MOVIE.

That said.

It's supposed to be more true to the book..

People say thats why it's going to be "dark."



Have you read the book? It's NOT "dark." It's about people that suck, kids that suck imparticular.

I went in to the movie with less than high hopes, and went out with a HUGE grin on my face. I absolutely loved the movie far more than I could have imagined I would. This movie and the original are completely different films, and both are outstanding. There are things I loved about the original that I would have liked to see in this, and there were totally original things in this that worked very well. Great movie.

It was GOOD.

I just got back from it. It was AWESOME. I enjoyed Johnny as Wonka more than Gene. He just seemed more like the kind of guy whos been locked away all his life in a factory.

Great movie. You can REALLY tell it was a Burton film. It was great. Also the new trailer for the Corpse Bride is a WINNAR.

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but ya, Corpse Bride looks good. Who would ever of thought that a movie about munging could be so cool looking?

Gene played a good role, the problem is he played the wrong role :p

Don't argue with SAJN. He knows everything about movies. Or something like that.

You're cool.


Charlie was a better adaptation of the book than Wonka was by far. Willy Wonka felt like he was done better and so did all the kids and rooms in the factory. Everything about the new movie just fit. Even the oompa loompa music scenes were very well done.

Aw. DJ Yoshi and SAJN_Master are back together again. No more fighting, you two!

Worked a 6-hour shift today. Had at least 200 people go to each showing, and they all loved it.

i have to agree with Darth J on a lot of this: you jsut have to look at the movies as two different ones, not different makes of the same thing. I knew that i would probably like 'Charlie' as long as it was different from 'Wonka' enough to provide new experiences, and i wasn't let down in the least. of cource, the main storyline was the same, but it took different turns that in didn't expect, and had whole new jokes and attitudes. I was rolling in my seat for a lot of it. i'm not sure why, but a lot of the new dialogue jsut tickled my funny bone, i loved it. and, in a rather ironic twists on the titles, in 'Wonka', you learn next to nothing about Wonka himself, while in 'Charlie' you get to learn all about his history and motivations, and also the origins of the Oopah Loopahs, which was great.

Also, the two wonkas were different, of cource, but i thought they were both excellent in different ways. Wilder, who i have loved in all his roles, came across to me as a sort of wise super-human sort, being able to shrink people down in the factory, turning coats into usable candy, and being perfectly at home and knowing everything no matter where or with who he was. This, of cource, led to some of my fovite quotes of all time (If god had meant us to walk, he would not have invented roller skates) from his quick and ipeccible timing. Depp's, on the otehr hand, came across to me much as SAJN described it, a kid who had been locked in his factory for most of his life. He seemed like a kid, really, not as an almost-god like gene, but as a kid who, not knoiwng that something is impossible, tries it anyway, and so ends up finding that its not impossible. And he had flaws, something that Gene really didn't: his strange and stunted childhood, his out-of-placeness in the real world, and his inability to care about anything otehr then candy. In anoutehr twist on the titles, while 'Wonka' was about charlie's journey, 'Charlie' was about both Charlie's journey and Wonka's.

So, over all, i found the movie to be absolutely freakin' awesome. i guess that's what i've been trying to say the whole time

Also, i wasted to respond to Masq:



I also agree with SAJN here. I really didn't find Wonka disturbing. Bueautiful, certaintly, bujt not disturbing.



First of all, i hate all the conparisons of depp to jackson. yes, he wears pale makup. The similarities end there, unless you consider 'wierd' a similarity. Secondly, yes, tehre is alot of CGI, but i, at least, was damn impressed. i thought Dahl would be impressed, IMO. The factory seemed to be a huge, crazy place, filled with incredible machines and amazing sites, all from Wonka's mind. And this was mostly only in the glass elevator scenes, and for stuff we really couldn't do with ordinary sets.



No. Just no, no, no, no. This isn't anly thing 'teletubbies'. it is darker then the original, and while the guide is 'moronic', in a sence, this doesn't bring down the real danger of the kids. also, in this version, you see how the kids turn out. Violet is a human slinky, the bratty gril (forget her name) and ehr dad are covered in garbage, and the adad finally stands up to her, and TV is seven feet tall and paper thin, while in 'Wonka' you get, or at least i got, the impression that they would be fine in the end, jsut tossed out of the factory.



Here i will agree with you, the previews did scare me. but i promise you this: its completely worth it to see past the previews and go see the movie. You will not be dissapointed.

From the way you described it, Depp's Wonka is a lot like Jackson. Never really grew up, doin' stuff with kids... He's Jackson.

He is not like Jackson. Period. End of Story. Bye Bye. See ya later.

There were a couple Jackson-esque moments.

But it wasn't too bad.

Don't judge this movie by the previews! It's excellent and supremely imaginatively entertaining. Elfman's music rocks, and Depp plays a different but very enjoyable role as Wonka. This movie also did a better job portraying the personalities of the children. Go see it in IMAX!

Also Mike Teavee's shirt is awesome.

I thought it was amazing.

I love Johnny Depp, because he's a completely different character for every role I've seen him in.