Sort of. My school just issued me my 12" iBook G4, and it's quite slick. Unfortunately, it's just a CD-ROM drive...no DVD drive...so this is going to be an interesting couple of weeks trying to get all my music on there (they actually preinstalled AIM, iChat, iTunes, etc so it's quite easy and even encouraged to have all that stuff on there)

Fun.

Network!

External DVD-ROMs are available. Can't really carry them around, but you get the idea. I wish I had gone to a school where they gave the students laptops to use.

Yeah, but I don't wanna spend money just for some simple data xfer. The laptops are quite sweet too, considering they'll run Warcraft 3, UT2k4, even Max Payne 1 and 2. \m/

The computers at my high school were slow. The fastest ones (which were few) were 1Ghz processors.

Blegh...iBook's..

I got a iBook G4 too (as a gift, even though I don't really like Mac products).

I got the Mac version of Call of Duty and Quake 3 installed on it.

...they don't really look very good on the iBook.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Yeah, but I don't wanna spend money just for some simple data xfer. The laptops are quite sweet too, considering they'll run Warcraft 3, UT2k4, even Max Payne 1 and 2. \m/[/QUOTE]
There is no Max Payne 2 for macs.

I'm considering buying one of the new 14" ones.

I thought you were in high school? Do you go to a private school or something?

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Yeah, but I don't wanna spend money just for some simple data xfer....[/QUOTE]
Does the word "Samba" mean nothing to you? What about NFS? FTP? HTTP? SCP?

Of course not!

I use windows on this machine, don't have wireless internet, and have only one ethernet cord that I can use. So at the moment, it's going to be via hardware. :p

Public High School. A really nice public high school.

I'm not a Mac user, but iBooks are freaking sexy in everyway possible.

Look wise, yeah. But not the way they operate/can break down. They aren't fun to troubleshoot. Power Mac G5 and iBook are Apple's two most commonly troubled products. Hence why I said blegh.

So that's why, after two years of use, these iBooks have NEVER needed to be troubleshooted unless the student effed it up themselves, right Temp? Because they're so buggy and crappy, right?

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Public High School. A really nice public high school.[/QUOTE]
where do you live??

Remember yoshi, I worked for Apple. You've had experience with only a few mac's. I handled about 100 calls a day on issues with these products. For about an 8 month period.

You mean about a 1500 macs, because that's how many our school has. Like I said, in 2 years' time, not a problem unless it was user created.

Warlord--in the middle of Kansas. Don't ask, it's weird.

I'm itching to get a PowerBook G4. We were setting some up for the Physics department and I wanted to and plead to Dr. DeLeone let me have one. Damn those things are sick.

Edit: There is no PB G5. I'm an idiot.

Hee. But yeah, even this iBook is quite nice, and it's definitely not on the higher end of the spectrum.

You know Temperamental, for being an Apple customer service rep and a person who says they have so many problems, me and my friends have absolutley had no problems at all. All Apple has been is PURE quality. Whether it be my brother's iBook G4, my PowerBook G4, friends PowerBook G4, three iPods, and a friend with a new Dual 2.7Ghz G5, no problems whatsoever.

You have to realize that the people who call Apple for help are the ones that do have problems, and that has no indication whatsoever that the other 90% of the product-owners that haven't called in have problems.

Okay, so you get a lot of calls on the iBook G4. How many people actually have them, and how many people actually call in? I mean, if 85% of people have their iBook and have no problems, and the other 15% do, that doesn't mean that the iBook is automatically a bad product.

And remember, if it works for one person, it works for them. The worst argument anyone has is "Other people (or yourself) have had so many problems with them, why did you waste your money". My prompt reply is always "Well, I've had no problems, so sucks for them".

And you administrate all these computers on a daily basis, handle problems with them when they DO come up, and call Apple yourself to get resolution to these issues?



It's not only the problems that occur, it's other things as well like policie's, service plan's and their stipulations.

It's not minor problems that occur, most of the time, the problems are major and sometimes can even be threatening to the user.

I never said APple had bad products, I just don't like them. I personally based off the experience I have had with them wouldn't recommend any to friends/family.

I've even spoken to people who are at the first part of the call, happy and most even state they've been long time apple users. However, by the end or middle of the call as soon as they find out the stipulations they aren't told or what Apple can/can't do with it's own product (i.e fully support anything to certain extremes), they state very clearly their anger at how they were douped and now are no longer going to buy products from Apple. Sure, it maybe anger talking, but when a call can go like that so quickly, it has to say soemthing.

Well as a customer service rep the only macs one would see would be the broken ones. :p

I asked the guys who took care of them, and they said the only problems they'd run into were with the kids. Nothing major had ever happened (i.e. file corruption, bad RAM, bad AirPort cards, etc).

Of course, that's not to say that there haven't been issues.

I'm not saying you or them are wrong, I'm just saying it's my experiences on-hand that tell me this, not what someone tells me down the grapevine.

Yes, a whole 1 person removed. Damn. Your experiences are with people who have had problems, not people who haven't. Realize this.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi](they actually preinstalled AIM, iChat, iTunes, etc so it's quite easy and even encouraged to have all that stuff on there)[/QUOTE]
That's all installed with the system. =P Kinda like how you get WMP when you install Windows. The only exception is AIM, but iChat is supposed to be the stand-in for that. Now if all the preinstalled system stuff (iTunes etc) was up to date... That'd kinda impress me.

It's fairly up to date. The point is they could've removed it.

Do you need to be such an ***? I don't recall me speaking in this way to you, I don't even rememer directly opposing anything you said. Simply saying "Based off my experiences, this is what I would not do" doesnt mean "OMG YOSHI YOU *** REALISE I AM RIGHT. DAMN. JESUS."

Yes.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]It's fairly up to date. The point is they could've removed it.[/QUOTE]
True. Though I've never tried to seperate iTunes from OSX. I'm not sure how easy that is... if you even can.

Temp, you're taking it the wrong way... and your opinion is wrong. Anyone who works any form of customer service is always going to see the bad side of a company and its product sales. When I was a cellphone rep at Best Buy I had tons of people come in every day with bad phones/subscirption problems that I had to deal with. This doesnt mean the companies or the phones were horrible, but it gave me a bad view of cellphones that I'm just now starting to get over. I still hate them, but as was said before, working CR you only see the problems.

We're too poor to afford those.

/cry

Temperamental and Yoshi make every thread they both post in, suck.

Man, I just want Mac OSX on off-the-shelf PC hardware. I know the 'whole experience' is something Apple tries to cater for, but there's something to be said for running the best consumer operating system in the universe.

If they're gunshy about providing OSX, they could at least provide the user interface in a box and let people install it on BSD/Darwin.

Jobs could never think that far ahead. The man is a genius as far as looking forward in technology, but he's just so stupid to realize how BADLY people want his software, and what kind of market there is for it.

Temp--Yes. Now stop crying and take it to PM, pansy.

Just curious, DJ, what are the specs on that iBook G4?

It's not amazing, (but at least it's a G4)

1.04ghz, 512mb DDR RAM, 30 gig harddrive. For something that's 12", I should say it could be a HELLUVALOT worse, and it runs Warcraft 3 okay

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Sort of. My school just issued me my 12" iBook G4, . . . [/QUOTE]

Do you go to a private school? If not, I wasn't aware that public schools issued hardware like that.